Times Quick Cryptic No 1162 by Teazel

Simon Thelonious Schaffner Weissmann, born August 16th at 11:43 PM, weighing 6 pounds 11 ounces, and measuring 19 1/4 inches.

By all accounts this puzzle took me longer than Simon’s birth, all thanks to my putting LOUNGE instead of LONGUE.

Across

1 [In] refitted house, angelic piece of furniture (6,6)
CHAISE LONGUE – anagrammed (“refitted”) HOUSE ANGELIC (“house angelic”)
8 [Does] he [take] a couple of books in religious class? (5)
RABBI – A (“a”) + B B (“couple of books”) inside (“in”) R.I. (“religious class”)
9 Insect repelled girl, one feels (7)
ANTENNA – ANT (“insect”) + reversed (“repelled”) ANNE (“girl”)
10 Sailor [is in] mountain lake briefly (3)
TAR – TARN (“mountain lake”) without the last letter (“briefly”)
11 Story about baron meeting king [for] tricky task (4,5)
TALL ORDER – TALE (“story”) around (“about”) LORD (“baron”) + (“meeting”) R (“king”, as in Rex)
13 Child I locked in shed (5)
BAIRN – I (“I”) inside (“locked in”) BARN (“shed”)
Aw. I believe this is a Scottish word.
14 Interior of Roman villa that goes under the hammer (5)
ANVIL – letters inside (“interior of”) ROMAN VILLA
16 Offer I had received [to be] head of the board (9)
PRESIDENT – PRESENT (“offer”), I’D (“I had”) inside (“received”)
17 Mistake to give away pounds [for] small drink (3)
SIP – SLIP (“mistake”) without (“to give away”) L (“pounds”)
19 Rescue first piece of valuable silver put into auction (7)
SALVAGE – first letter of (“first piece of”) VALUABLE (“valuable”) + AG (“silver”, on the periodic table”) inside (“put into”) SALE (“auction”)
21 Estuary commonly brown (5)
UMBER – HUMBER (“estuary”) without H (“commonly”, like Eliza Doolittle, say)
This was the first British body of water I didn’t know…
22 In two places? Sporadically (4,3,5)
HERE AND THERE – double definition

Down

1 Round area lug a measure of gold (5)
CARAT – around (“round”) A (“area”), CART (“lug”)
Good wordplay, rivalling a 15×15.
2 Purple [and] gold mountain in east (9)
AUBERGINE – AU (“gold”) + BERG (“mountain”) + IN (“in”) + E (“east”)
3 Reproduction of “Magpie sitting” [is] exact copy (8,5)
SPITTING IMAGE – anagram of (“reproduction of”) MAGPIE SITTING (“magpie sitting”)
4 Tending to reproduce a libel (6)
LIABLE – anagram (“reproduce”) A LIBEL (“a libel”)
Boo for using the same anagram indicator in two successive clues!
5 Heritage organisation [that has] everyone’s confidence? (8,5)
NATIONAL TRUST – double definition; the latter, tounge-in-cheek… er, TONGUE-in-cheek
6 While speaking, bring in vase (3)
URN – homophone of (“while speaking”) EARN (“bring in”)
7 Hardy: the word one associates with this / tree (6)
LAUREL – double definition, the first referring to the 20th century comedic duo, Laurel and Hardy.
“As Chairman of the Welcoming Committee, it is my privilege to extend a laurel and hearty handshake to our new…” —Blazing Saddles
12 Girl horrid about brother? Possible to be separated (9)
DIVISIBLE – DI (“girl”) + VILE (“horrid”) around (“about”) SIB (“brother?”, for instance)
13 Sort of surgery / not found in town centre? (6)
BYPASS – double definition; the second referring to a road that avoids a well-travelled area, for instance a town center
Not exactly sure what is being driven at here… maybe the town in question is by the mountains? EDIT thanks to kevingregg
15 Separate name [for] river (6)
SEVERN – SEVER (“separate”) + N (“name”)
…and this was the second.
18 Bag perfect to hold shilling (5)
PURSE – PURE (“perfect”) around (“to hold”) S (“shilling”)
20 Relax [and] tell a story (3)
LIE – double definition; the first not precisely substitutable but probably getting at ‘lie down’.

39 comments on “Times Quick Cryptic No 1162 by Teazel”

  1. Mazel tov on the new Weissman, Jeremy!
    I never did go back to TALL ORDER and finish parsing it; I saw TALE and the enumeration and biffed. BYPASS was my LOI, as I couldn’t think of any types of surgery that would fit. Note the ? (as Jeremy does, tacitly) in 12d; ‘brother’ to clue SIB is an example of definition by example (DBE), widely seen as a no-no unless modified by a “for instance” or a ? 5:20.
  2. Congratulations to all. The puzzle took me from NW to SW to SE to finish up in NE with laurel in 8:18. Like Kevin, I got far enough into tall order to be comfortable before passing on so thanks for the explanation. COD has to be 13 ac given today’s news (but I wouldn’t lock him in a shed).

    Edited at 2018-08-22 07:25 am (UTC)

  3. Isn’t this a cryptic definition? ‘not found in town centre’ is a predicate not a referring expression; I suppose if it had been ‘that’s not found in town centre’ we could call it a double def, but.
    1. How is ‘possible to be separated’ substantively different from ‘not found in town centre’?

      There are two senses of the word being clues, so I’d call that a double definition. I’ve always taken cryptic definition to mean one definition given with misleading words, like ‘film aired in Technicolour?’ which sounds like it’s about movies but is a cryptic definition of BUBBLE.

      1. I expect you have more important things to think about right now, but I’m afraid I don’t understand your comment.
        1. If ‘possible to be separated’ can clue DIVISIBLE, why can’t ‘not found in town centre?’ clue BYPASS? They seem the same.

          The other comment suffered from an autocorrect. I meant to say “there are two senses of the word being CLUED”, namely, the surgery and the road. To my understanding that’s a double definition, not a cryptic definition. As I see it, a cryptic definition is a single definition given in misleading words.

          1. ‘possible to be separated’ MEANS ‘divisible’ and vice versa; ‘not found in town center’ does not mean ‘bypass’. So we have one definition, ‘sort of surgery’. As I said, if the clue had said ‘that’s not found…’ that would define BYPASS (sense 2) and give us a double definition. I do wish I hadn’t started this.
            1. And yet you did. 😉

              It didn’t seem strange to me, the idea of clueing a word with a description and a question mark, sort of a definition by example. I felt I’d seen it before, but you’d know better than me.

              But isn’t ‘bypass road’ a thing? So ‘bypass’ can be an adjective as well, which would solve the problem.

              In any case, to my tastes the clue clearly has the form of a double definition, not a cryptic definition for the reasons I gave above.

  4. Congratulations on the new 13a, Jeremy. This felt trickier at first than it turned out to be – the 2 long downs helped a lot. I liked AUBERGINE and UMBER which is my COD for reminding me that the nearby city is commonly pronounced ‘LL. I see I neglected to parse CARAT at the time. Thanks Jeremy and Teazel. 5:32

    Edited at 2018-08-22 07:56 am (UTC)

  5. For ten minutes I did not pause and had three quarters done; then I ground to a halt mainly in the SW .13a and 13d (LOI) held me up; and 16a was not a chestnut for me and I took a while to see it. 7d also a problem. And I did not help myself with Dividable (not parsed immediately) at 12d.
    Anyway, corrected and completed in 22 minutes with a final check on SIP (not Sup or Sop etc). Good puzzle . David
    PS congratulations to our blogger on his new arrival and coping with Umber.
  6. My first DNF in yonks – at 13 couldn’t think of anything for ‘shed’ ending N that made a child with I inserted, nor any sort of surgery to fit, so gave up after 15 minutes and resorted to aid for something to fit checkers – even then, with Brian for the child, tried to get BRAN from ‘shed’ somehow.

    Congratulations to all for Simon.

  7. So Teazel’s offering took me 13 mins but with many of them wasted trying to make sense of the anagram at 1a CHAISE LONGUE. Does anyone use one of these anymore? LOI AUBERGINE for which I needed all the checkers.
  8. And welcome to this mad world Simon.

    As far as the crossword goes, nothing really to add, except that for me it was a rare sub-Verlaine time – 4.10 – which i’ll take any day of the week.

  9. Good puzzle, finished despite granddaughter’s attempts to sidetrack me. Took me a couple of minutes longer than it should have because, after biffing lots of answers successfully on the basis of checkers, I put LIABLE instead of LABILE. Hence ANTENNA was my LOI. 13.05. John M
  10. Congratulations, Jeremy et al! Lovely to see the photo. Hope your missus had an easier time of it with him than I did with this puzzle — a DNF thanks to BYPASS and SEVERN. Liked UMBER, got that straight away what with me living next to it (almost). BAIRN took a bit to see, but we call them “bains” round here so not too tough.
    When will you be starting him on the QC? 🙂
  11. Almost a minute over my target time at 10:50, with BAIRN BYPASS and LAUREL causing the longest hold ups. Quite a few others that caused churning of the brain cells too. Thanks Teazel and Jeremy, and congrats on the new arrival.
  12. 11 minutes for me, so easier than Monday or Tuesday. Last one in was LAUREL which was rather stupid of me. I liked BYPASS and BAIRN.

    Congrats Jeremy and family on the new arrival!

  13. What a sweet picture. I remember it all so well (my boys are now 23, 21 and 19 …). Hope he’s a sleeper!

    Great puzzle, really enjoyed it. Thanks Teazel. Under 2 Kevins today so I have treated myself to a celebratory second espresso. LOI and COD was AUBERGINE, really had to work at that one.

    Templar

  14. Congrats & thx. Is 18 dn an &lit. ? Always appreciate the advice from you clever folk. John
    1. “It’s perfect to hold shilling!” would be!

      Edited at 2018-08-22 03:54 pm (UTC)

  15. I use this site to help me when I get stuck and to explain why a clue gives an answer, and for that I am v thankful. However, there do seem to be some acronyms I don’t get, eg COD. Is there a glossary? I do the paper version of the quickie…🙂
    1. COD = clue of the day. Others you may see are FOI first one in , LOI Last one in. Biff or biffed, derived from Grestyman’s acronym BIFD bunged in from definition. MER, major or minor eyebrow raise. There will be others 🙂
          1. There’s also PDM (Penny Drop Moment). I’m not against them, but I think talking about ‘Kevins’ is going a bit too far.

            Brian

            Edited at 2018-08-22 07:31 pm (UTC)

      1. COD is an acronym as the word existed before the new meaning. BIFD is an abbreviation as, as far as I am aware, “BIFD” is not a word.
        No doubt this will set the pedants off as to where words such as “laser” or “scuba” fit in.
  16. I spotted 1a straight away which set the tone for my solve as it all went in without too much heavy lifting. The parsing of 1d and 16a were the only real pauses for thought.
    Completed in 9.59 with LOI 17a.
    Congratulations to Jeremy and thanks for doing the blog despite having far more important things on your mind.
  17. Congatulations on the new arrival — what a sweet picture.
    On more minor matters, finished in (for me) some comfort — spouse has always wanted a CHAISE LONGUE on which to recline, so that was a flying start. And a daughter lives near ‘Ull, so UMBER went in quickly too.

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