Times Quick Cryptic No 1832 by Mara

Introduction

5:22. Plenty of anagrams (and not very long or obscure ones) made this a very accessible puzzle for me.

Solutions

A brief summary of cryptic crosswords —feel free to skip— :

  • Each clue has at least one “definition”: an unbroken string of words which more-or-less straightforwardly indicates the answer. A definition can be as simple as a one-word synonym; but it can also be a descriptive phrase like ‘I’m used to wind’ for REEL or SPOOL. A definition by example must be indicated by a phrase like ‘for example’, or, more commonly, a question mark (?). Thus ‘color’ is a definition of RED, while ‘red, for example’ or ‘red?’ are definitions of COLOR. Punctuation (and capitalization) is otherwise irrelevant.
  • Each clue may also have an unbroken string of words which indicates the answer through wordplay, such as: using abbreviations; reversing the order of letters; indicating particular letters (first, last, outer, middle, every other, etc); placing words inside other words; rearranging letters (anagrams); replacing words by words that sound alike (homophones); and combinations of the above. This is by no means an exhaustive list, but the general theme is to reinterpret ordinary words as referring to letters, so that for example ‘lion’s head’ indicates the first letter of LION: namely, L.
  • Definitions and wordplay cannot overlap. The only other words allowed in clues are linking words or phrases that combine these. Thus we may see, for example: “(definition) gives (wordplay)” or “(definition) and (definition)” or “(wordplay) is (definition)”.
  • The most common clues have either two definitions, or one definition plus wordplay, in either order. But a single, very misleading definition is not uncommon, and very occasionally a definition can also be interpreted as wordplay leading to the same answer. Triple definitions (and more) are also possible.

My conventions in the solutions below are to underline definitions (including a defining phrase); put linking words in [brackets]; and put all wordplay indicators in boldface. I also use a solidus (/) to help break up the clue where necessary, especially for double definitions without linking words.

After the solutions, I list all the wordplay indicators and abbreviations in a Glossary.

Across

1   Summed upas a completed story? (3,4)
ALL TOLD = double definition
A completed story, for example, would be ALL TOLD.

5   Garment for women / in mind (5)
BRAIN = BRA + IN

8   Lovely first person, by the sound of it, arresting (3-8)
EYE-CATCHING = homophone of I + CATCHING

10   Soft cloth / considered (4)
FELT = double definition

11   Tool reinvented as a winch (8)
CHAINSAW = anagram of AS A WINCH

12   Protest, / at which action directed (6)
OBJECT = double definition
The second definition being synonymous with ‘purpose’ or ‘end’.

14   Beans cooked, / toast ultimately missing (6)
ABSENT = BEANS anagrammed + last letter of TOAST

16   America backed / dodgy gaffer [in] vote (8)
SUFFRAGE = U.S. reversed + anagram of GAFFER

18   Organised / a way to drink whisky (4)
NEAT = double definition

20   Nonsense — [with] two wives? (6,5)
DOUBLE DUTCH = double definition
DOUBLE DUTCH is, according to Chambers, ‘any unknown or unintelligible language’. DUTCH also means ‘wife’, so DOUBLE DUTCH is ‘two wives’.

22   Group of wild animals was curious, reportedly (5)
PRIDE = homophone of PRIED

23   Drunk angered, raise your weapon (2,5)
EN GARDE = anagram of ANGERED

Down

2   Subject for example in story (5)
LIEGE = E.G. in LIE

3   Stand to sort out letters (7)
TRESTLE = anagram of LETTERS

4   Endless spring meadow (3)
LEA = LEAP without last letter

6   Power shower audible? (5)
REIGN = homophone of RAIN
Funny surface!

7   Gran and I in awful fix (7)
INGRAIN = anagram of GRAN I IN
Chambers has ‘to fix a dye firmly in’.

9   A farce, race had to be fixed (7)
CHARADE = anagram af RACE HAD

11   Whistle — [or] miaow? (7)
CATCALL = CAT CALL

13   Villain [is] skipper? (7)
BOUNDER = one who bounds
Lucky guess for me.

15   Old performer partially unconscious, in a trance (7)
SINATRA = hidden in UNCONSCIOUS IN A TRANCE

17   Discovered nothing in kitty (5)
FOUND = O in FUND

19   Little pest ran for cover after father turned up (5)
APHID = HID after reversal of PA

21   Fellow in demand, once (3)
DON = hidden in DEMAND ONCE

Glossary

Wordplay indicators

after = next to
and = next to
audible = homophone
awful = anagram
backed = reversal
(to) be fixed = anagram
by the sound of it = homophone
cooked = anagram
dodgy = anagram
endless = remove last letter
in = containment, hidden, linking word
is = linking word
or = linking word
partially = hidden
reinvented = anagram
reportedly = homophone
(to) sort out = anagram
turned up = reversal in down clues
ultimately = last letter
with = linking word

Abbreviations and little bits

America = US
father = PA
first person = I
for example = EG
garment for women = BRA
nothing = O
story = LIE

71 comments on “Times Quick Cryptic No 1832 by Mara”

  1. Straightforward enough, although I needed some checkers before IN GRAIN & BOUNDER became clear. Nice to see BRA for once not clued by ‘supporter’. 3:48.
  2. 1hr 2min. FOI 1ac; LOI 6dn. After what was starting to look like a PB, I was held up by 5a and 6d. In 6d I was looking for a word P****, with the **** meaning “shower” and the whole meaning “audible”. It took a long time to see that “audible” signified a homophone. But I do not like equating “mind” with “brain”. The mind is an emergent entity arising from the complexity of the brain. “Mind” is what “brain” does. No doubt it can be justified by reference to some dictionary, I know that setters have license, and I should allow for that. Anyway, it was fun, so thanks to Mara and to Jeremy.
  3. 8 minutes. Alerted immediately at 5ac that the BRAIN/mind debate would be triggered, and yes, the dictionaries do have it covered e.g. Collins:

    Your brain is your mind and the way that you think.

    Examples:
    Once you stop using your brain you soon go stale.
    Stretch your brain with this puzzle.

    My own niggle is reserved for 8ac where I’d suggest that EYE-CATCHING means ‘noticeable’ without implication of loveliness or otherwise. The “monstrous carbuncle on the face of a much-loved and elegant friend” would certainly be eye-catching but not ‘lovely’.

    1. So-it-went is right, of course, although the setter’s covered, too. (Chomsky has for years used the term “mind/brain” to sidestep the tiresome debate.) I would point out, though, that the Collins definition you quote is from Cobuild, a dictionary for learners of English as a foreign language, and as such is perhaps best not to be appealed to.
      I had the same feeling as you about EYE-CATCHING.

      Edited at 2021-03-17 06:37 am (UTC)

      1. Okay. Chambers has brain = intellect, and mind = intellect. Collins (print edition) has brain = an intellectual or intelligent person, and mind = a person considered an intellectual being. Surely sufficient crossover for crossword purposes, bearing in mind we’re not saying that mind and brain are the same thing, only that in usage they are sometimes interchangeable.

        Edited at 2021-03-17 07:21 am (UTC)

        1. As I said, the setter’s covered (I was fine with the clue; not the slightest tremble of an eyebrow).
  4. No real problems, although no time since I was doing other things at the same time (during CFH — Crosswords From Home). It’s annoying at this time of year when London’s midnight is an hour later than normal here in the US since we’ve changed our clocks already).
  5. It’s always nice to start with 1a and the rest of the clues followed quickly. Lots of good surfaces today but 19d, APHID, was the stand out for me.
    I did wonder if there might be something going on with the ‘rhyming’ clues in the the NE and FOUND and BOUNDER in the SW, but if there is it’s beyond my ability to see.
    Finished in 6.25 with LOI BRAIN.
    Thanks to Jeremy
  6. No self-inflicted wounds for the first time this week. A respectable six on the first pass of acrosses and built steadily from there — noting the above average number of anagrams — to finish in the NE with BRAIN, REIGN, and INGRAIN. Particularly enjoyed BOUNDER and APHID and was impressed by how well CHAINSAW hid itself in the anagrist. All green in 11m.

    Edited at 2021-03-17 07:21 am (UTC)

  7. One very minor quibble – does REIGN really = “power”? Long to power over us? He was born in the power of Elizabeth II? Doesn’t feel quite right to me without “have” in front.

    Otherwise a nice puzzle, first one I’ve enjoyed completing this week. Thanks Mara and Jeremy

    1. I had the same quibble.

      Collins has these definitions under American English but not included under British:

      NOUN
      1. royal power, authority, or rule; sovereignty
      2. dominance, prevalence, or sway
      the reign of good will

  8. FOI 1A: ALL TOLD
    LOI 10A: FELT

    Had somehow entered ON GARDE.

    Thank you, plusjeremy and the setter.

  9. Another foxtrot solve — quick quick slow …
    … as I fairly raced through three quarters of this enjoyable puzzle before the NE corner held me up. I also tried to start 6D Reign with a P for power, and 7A Ingrain simply wouldn’t come — no real reason, except that I am less familiar with the simple form of the verb than its past participle ingrained. Finally those two fell and then my LOI 5A Brain followed for a 14 minute solve.

    All a lot more fun than yesterday’s! Many thanks to Jeremy for the blog.
    Cedric

    1. My attempt was more like a Waltz.
      Forward, Side, Together; Back, Side, Together with too much time standing still with both feet together.
  10. 20:12, so Just made my target time by 9 seconds, with a well-placed break before rattling in the final few BOUNDER, OBJECT and BRAIN. Those last few seemed to have many potential words that could fit, I think I’m going to deploy the tactical timeout more, especially as I now use the Crossword Club which has a Pause capability.

    I didn’t think REIGN fitted ‘power’ as observed above. Also was confused about LIEGE, I always though the Liege was the Lord, not the subject. Also INGRAINED for ‘fix’ didn’t feel quite right.

    DOUBLE DUTCH, similarly clued appeared this week in the QC, as I recall.

    I see that both clue and answer, “object” and “protest” are words which change their part of speech depending on where the accent is. Nice symmetry at 12a.

    COD CHAINSAW – good anagram in a very clean surface

    Edited at 2021-03-17 08:43 am (UTC)

    1. Didn’t know about the pause function! I had to break off a few days ago to tend to the washing machine — clean / dry school uniforms trump crosswords — it could all have been so much more leisurely.
  11. Total non-sequitur but …
    … does anyone else get ads in Russian on this site? I can’t see how it can be my personal settings as it only happens on this site, no others, and I have not to my knowledge ever visited Russian websites — not speaking the language or even having cyrillic on my keyboard.

    Cedric

    1. I get these too. I put it down to my anti-virus program disguising my IP address by pretending to be somewhere east and possibly a bit north of where I actually am. I have a vague recollection of allowing it to do that when I installed it, and haven’t bothered to look to reverse that decision. I protect my devices with Norton 360 or Lifelock. The ads don’t bother me enough to invest any effort in fixing the issue.
    2. One of the reasons I finally got a login ID was that the ‘prove you are not a machine’ questions started appearing in Russian — tricky.
    3. Live Journal is Russian-owned, though it wasn’t when TfTT started. I only see ads in Russian when I am logged out as jackkt – something that only happens in error – and they disappear as soon as I sign in.
      1. Thank you Jack, that might explain it. But one is not over-impressed with a website owner who prefers ads in his language to ads in the language of the website’s users. It is not rocket science to suggest that a website devoted to a UK-based, English language pastime might perhaps attract more English speakers than Russian!
  12. 6 minutes for all but BRAIN. Just couldn’t see it. So busy alpha trawling (badly) I failed to properly lift and separate the IN and MIND.

    Smiled when I saw it I have to say — not sure about the synonym but the w/p was perfectly fair and clear. In plain sight almost.

    Thanks Mara and Jeremy

  13. Slow to start and I did my usual clockwise trawl finishing up back in the NW. No major problems and, whilst I share some of the doubts about definitions expressed above, they were never going to lead to more than a moment’s hesitation. I’m afraid I can’t get exercised about the ‘legality’ of definitions when the meaning is perfectly clear in the context of the clue.
    I liked EN GARDE, BRAIN, and LIEGE but DOUBLE DUTCH was my COD.
    All done in 2 mins under target (15 mins but it used to be 10 — 12) so a good day in current circumstances. I read something recently about the routines of lockdown and lack of personal interaction leading to poorer short-term memory and slower responses. I keep very active mentally (music, reading, 2 or more cryptics a day), keep in close touch with others in the usual ways (avoiding Facebook) and organise a lot of activities for local groups (including ambitious monthly wine tastings on Zoom for groups of 80+, often involving the overseas winemakers) but I do wonder about this. Does anyone else share these concerns? Perhaps I need to get out more, as they say.
    Thanks to Mara and Jeremy. John M.

    Edited at 2021-03-17 09:51 am (UTC)

    1. ” I read something recently about the routines of lockdown and lack of personal interaction leading to poorer short-term memory and slower responses.”

      Personally I consider that to be a load of utter nonsense. However, I am not an expert in these things.

      1. What a helpful and balanced response. Perhaps you have never known anyone whose freedom and human contact have been curtailed over extended periods. Current limitations on us all are trivial by comparison and it is probably much easier to scoff than to think about it. John.

        Edited at 2021-03-17 10:04 am (UTC)

        1. You asked for people’s views and you got mine. If you’re not big enough to accept another person’s point of view, don’t ask for it.

          As for not knowing anybody whose “freedom” has been curtailed over extended periods: I am also in lock down, and have been for what, a year now? I live on my own, so yes I am in that situation. I stand by my response.

    2. Hi John, a parallel is already apparent in junior-age children, who have been back at school for just over a week. Although many of them participated in online learning programmes, provided by their schools, their stamina for learning has dropped off: attention span is about half of that a year ago, ability to concentrate is impaired and short-term memory, in many cases, is much shorter than before.
      We are expecting these setbacks to be temporary and I’m sure that this will be the case with adults in lockdown, also, apart from those who have been at their workplace, throughout.
      1. Thank you. Interesting and based on evidence so not to be sloughed off by the sceptics. I am sure things will get better, as you say, but it is all too easy for people to take the ‘stiff upper lip’ approach and rubbish what they don’t want to hear. A delicate balance, though, to avoid reasonable worries becoming self-fulfilling.
        1. Oops! That last one was me. On my phone instead of ipad and not logged in. John.
    3. Oooh can I come to a wine tasting even though I am not local. Or am I? I don’t know where you are!!!! Doesn’t matter on Zoom though does it — unless you are all friends already but then if there are 80 one more wouldn’t matter would it? Love a wine tasting.
      1. Sorry. Society membership has been frozen since the start of the pandemic. The logistics of choosing, buying, and distributing wines are currently challenging, to say the least, and our members have to be local for us to get bottles to them. I really shouldn’t have mentioned it but it slipped out (and I couldn’t change anything after the first reply had been received).
        There are many excellent online tastings if you search, not least from The Wine Society.
        1. I understand perfectly. Shame though. Let me know if you find any good ones to recommend. Always like to try something new!!
  14. but got there in the end. LOI BRAIN – hm. Should have engaged it more quickly. Other LOsI LIEGE, FELT. Once penny dropped with ALL TOLD it became easier.

    Liked DOUBLE DUTCH. Do not like APHIDs but it was one of the FOsI along with EN GARDE, SINATRA, NEAT, LEA. In fact, all fairly quick in the south.

    Thanks for ever helpful blog, Jeremy.

  15. FOI: 23a ENGARDE
    LOI: 12a OBJECT

    Time to Complete: 93 minutes

    Clues Answered Correctly without aids: 22

    Clues Answered with Aids (3 lives): 8a, 13d

    Clues Unanswered: Nil

    Wrong Answers: Nil

    Total Correctly Answered (incl. aids): 24/24

    Aids Used: Chambers

    This was one of those crosswords where, after the first read though of the clues, I started with no idea. Yet, the clues did not appear to be obscure or nonsensical to me. I knew I would be able to work most of them out given time. On my second, slower, run through the answers began to form in my mind.

    8a. EYE-CATCHING – As much as I tried, I just could not get this one, and so had to use Chamber’s. One life gone. Obvious once I saw the answer.

    20a. DOUBLE DUTCH – One of my earliest ones to go in. I did not understand the “wives” part, but the answer just screamed itself at me, and so in it went. It was not until I came here that I understood wives.

    13d. BOUNDER – I should have got this one, as I called somebody a bounder the other day. Second life used.

    15d. SINATRA – I did get this one, but over the past few puzzles I have missed the hidden clues. I need to be more aware of these.

    11d. CATCALL – My favourite clue. Though I have always used the meow variant, rather than miaow.

    A thought-provoking puzzle, but enjoyable and fair. This is the fifth Mara crossword I have attempted, and my second Mara solve. More of Mara please!

    Oh, and I have been invited for my first Covid jab on Saturday. Means I must be considered old.

  16. Mara can be tricky and I did not find this easy. FOI was DON and I managed to keep going by leaping around the grid. Was deceived by 18a wanting to insert W and had ON GUARD initially.
    Anyway, like many others it seems, my LOI was BRAIN. 10:33 on the clock which I was pleased with.
    COD to LIEGE just ahead of NEAT.
    David
    1. I initially put EN GUARD, but then I realised GUARD did not fit the checkers. I assume EN GARDE is a French phrase, and so GARDE replaced my GUARD.
  17. Ended up as fairly straightforward for me, although I didn’t think it would be as I was nearing the end of the across clues and only had CHAINSAW and ABSENT written in. Thankfully I got PRIDE and EN GARDE as well and then the downs proved easier. Mara seemed to be making up for Orpheus’s lack of anagrams yesterday by putting seven in today, but unusually I didn’t have to write any of them out. No problem with Brain = Mind, but I agree that Reign and Power don’t seem exactly interchangeable. I suppose you could just about say something like “Henry VIII came to power/reign in 1547” but it doesn’t sound quite right. Without re-looking properly at the clue after getting the answer, I assumed that “arresting” was the definition of EYE-CATCHING, but on re-examining the clue, I agree with Jack that it’s not really a synonym of “lovely”. Anyway, lots to enjoy, so I’m not really complaining. FOI CHAINSAW, LOI FELT (I was worried that was going to take a while, but it was only a minute or so), COD 15d, WOD BOUNDER, Time: 19:32
  18. Found this very manageable with only a couple of hold ups, PRIDE = PRIED being one for some reason and INGRAIN the other -but this was the only word that worked from the anagram.
  19. Good crossword from Mara, good result with a 13 minute solve. 20a was no problem, but it did set me thinking about the origin of ‘Dutch’ or more properly ‘my old Dutch’ for wife. I had always thought it was CRS (cockney rhyming slang), but it appears not. Dutch is apparently a shortening of Duchess, and may be Cockney, but isn’t CRS. Whilst some make a case for it’s origin as CRS from Duchess of Fife / wife, the phrase ‘my old Dutch’ in the song that made it famous predates the very first Duchess of Fife. Interesting!

    BRAIN was also my LOI, and only occurred to me after I tried to justify ‘train’ as a possible answer. Like others, if asked, I would have gone for the ‘lord’ interpretation of LIEGE, which is a legitimate alternative to the serf or subject interpretation used here, also quite legitimate. Another example of English words that have two, diametrically opposed meanings — there must be a name for that phenomenon, but I can’t think of it. Sorry, just thought of it — contronym!

    Thanks both.

    1. Thanks for the explanation – I was about to look up the CRS and would have found it wasn’t!
  20. … for teaching me “En Garde!”.

    Couldn’t do either 1ac or 5ac first up, but then the rest all followed in sequence before I returned to where I had (not) started. A lot of anagrams, I thought, and rather clumsy to use the same anagram indicator (“fix”) in two consecutive clues (7 and 9dn).

    FOI EYE-CATCHING, LOI ALL TOLD (not a very good clue IMHO), COD CHAINSAW, time 2.1K but since Kevin was so fast today that was only just over 8 minutes and I’m still calling this a Good Day.

    Thanks Mara and Jeremy.

    Templar

  21. My solve was decidedly patchy and I missed my new target by 14 secs. Certainly all of these were spent on the alphabet trawl for my LOI PRIDE.
  22. It took me some time to adjust to Mara’s pithy style, but getting the two long answers helped to open up what was, at that stage, still a fairly empty grid. Bounder was a word that popped into (out of?) my mind/brain and unlocked the SW corner. Like others, 6d and 7d were my last pair giving me a 26min solve — not my best day. CoD to 19d, Aphid, for the surface. Invariant
  23. A slow solve, but a complete one, and all parsed for once, so satisfaction and enjoyment for me today. FOI felt. LOI Brain. COD Aphid. I’m a biologist and I’m always tempted to give COD to biological terms, especially of the animal kind. Satisfied, but not smug. Tried the 15 x 15 yesterday. Not so much a DNF as a DN start. Valued the education, nonetheless. Car trouble today and therefore missed an appointment so in addition to being on house arrest, confined by lack of wheels. Another go at the 15 x 15, then, in the hope of a better result. Thanks Jeremy and Mara. GW.
  24. DNK the term; thanks! ‘fast’ and ‘cleave’ come to mind as examples, although examples of what I didn’t know until now.
    1. Not quite on the theme of contronyms, but I remember trying to explain to a non-English speaker that flammable and inflammable meant the same thing, and ending up agreeing with her that to expect logic from the language was ambitious if not outright foolish!
  25. Apart from thinking a “brain” must be some sort of restrictive woman’s garment from ages past, I thought this was a relatively straightforward puzzle. I wasn’t particularly quick at 25 mins, but compared to yesterday it felt like a breeze.

    Some good clues from Mara, with a couple of traps if you weren’t careful. 21ac could easily have been construed as “Man” if it wasn’t for the “once” at the end. 7dn also proved annoyingly difficult.

    A nice, but no doubt unintentional, protest theme as well.

    FOI — 4dn “Lea”
    LOI — 5ac “Brain”
    COD — 19dn “Aphid” — lovely surface

    Thanks as usual.

  26. I started with LEA then proceeded around the grid in an orderly fashion, missing out 5a until the end as I just couldn’t see it until I applied the spare neuron. I had to write out the anagrist for INGRAIN, but then saw it immediately. I submitted but at that very moment the Club site went down yet again, so I had my porridge and read the paper for a while before trying again. I found that it had accepted my submission at 7:18. 20 seconds of that was spent proof reading, but this time I found no typos. Thanks Mara and Jeremy. Now I’ll see if I can squeeze in the 15×15 before the site crashes again!
  27. So-so. Better than yesterday anyway, and as usual enjoyed the blog.

    Thanks all.

    Diana

  28. Mrs Random and I tied on 22 minutes today. A super-fast time (for me, at least). But there’s a problem … it didn’t decide whose turn it is to make this afternoon’s pot of tea. I had to accept long ago that arm-wrestling was a much less fair decision mechanism than puzzling, but we may end up going thirsty today. Oh! I have just been informed by Mrs R that her 51% of the vote outweighs my 49%. Of course, I should know how democracy works in the Random household by now.

    My only doubts today were:
    TRESTLE – which caused me to realise I was unsure how to spell it.
    BOUNDER – which required the shortest alphabet trawl ever (next word after ASUNDER).
    LIEGE – the parsing of which was easy, but a word I didn’t know.

    Many thanks to plusjeremy for the blog, and to Mara (especially after the mauling I suffered last time he set the QC).

  29. Lovely puzzle resulting in a steady solve of 15 minutes, all parsed. Some nice clues, although there were rather too many anagrams.

    FOI – 8ac EYE CATCHING
    LOI – 6dn REIGN
    COD – 20ac DOUBLE DUTCH

    Thanks to Mara and Jeremy

  30. Another who struggled to spell Trestle on first writing so Felt took an age. But not in the mood today so gave up after 20 minutes to look up Brain, Object and Bounder…
    ….but some nice clues in here (although Brain v tricky IMO)
    Thanks all
    John George
  31. We like anagrams so this was a lot of fun to do. Not a particularly fast time at 21 minutes but we enjoyed ourselves nonetheless. Mrs Peel liked 5A – nice to have a clue specifically linking women and brain rather than providing support!

    FOI: all told
    LOI: brain
    COD: eye catching

    Thanks to Mara and Jeremy.

  32. Allwent well until we had 5a and 6d to complete. That took another 10 minutes before the penny dropped. Enjoyable puzzle and also enjoyed some of the amusing comments above. One advantage of doing the puzzle later in the day. Thanks to all.
  33. Also held up at the end by 5a/6d. Particular favourites today were 19a Aphid and 20a Double Dutch. FOI 1 all Told. LOI 5a Brain (I also tried train). COD 11a Chainsaw – needed to think that one out). Thx to all.
  34. Managed the bottom half quickly but ground to a snail’s pace at the top. DNK Dutch was a wife, gives new meaning to each paying one’s own. Fixated on SETTLER as anagram instead of TRESTLE despite knowing it was incorrect.
    Lots of anagrams helped.
    I have come to the realisation that my QC solving time is along the lines of an enthusiastic exercise rather than a full marathon, so happy to settle for a 10K. Pip pip.
    Thanks all and Mara and Jeremy
  35. Struggled in 8:40 but not sure why. Enjoyable uzzle particularly ikes the hidden Sinatra and brain.

    Thanks Jeremy and Mara

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