Times Quick Cryptic 2545 by Teazel – a prickly one

Hello everyone.  This took me over my outer target time, so I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that you found it tough.  If you in fact did well then well done!

The treatment in 11a will be familiar to many, but I do like it.  Though on the complex side for a Quick Cryptic I really rated 1d, and I also liked 8d.  Thanks Teazel.

[A little personal milestone: this is my 100th post for TfTT.  I think the breakdown is 47 Quick Cryptics plus 53 Jumbos – I can’t believe I’ve been doing those since 2019! – but the QCs are fast catching up.  Thank you all for being such good company.]

Definitions are underlined in the clues below.  In the explanations, quoted indicators are in italics and I’ve capitalised and emboldened letters which appear in the ANSWER.  For clarity, I omit most link words and some juxtaposition indicators.

Across
6a Place to sleep I’ll put in punt (6)
BILLET ILL put in BET (punt)
7a One abandoning girlfriend in truck (6)
DUMPER — Two definitions
9a Nervous of conflict with unknown (4)
WARY WAR (conflict) with Y (unknown)
10a Republican welcomed by dissident group in part (8)
FRACTION R (Republican) in (welcomed by) FACTION (dissident group)
11a Banter OK when you are young? (8)
BADINAGE — Ok when you are young?  BAD IN AGE
13a Garden where partners had a fall (4)
EDEN — Cryptic definition
15a Whip the Spanish horse (4)
LASH LAS (the, Spanish) + H (horse)
16a Cut off from place a colleague is holding (8)
AMPUTATE PUT (place), which A MATE (a colleague) is holding
18a Latin mass (not the last) arranged, one thought to bring good fortune (8)
TALISMAN — An anagram of (… arranged) LATIN MASs without the last letter (not the last)
20a Unable to feel end of arm, roll over clutching it (4)
NUMB — The final letter (end) of arM, with BUN (roll) reversed (over) around (clutching) it
21a At home, nurse is mean (6)
INTEND IN (at home) + TEND (nurse)
22a Frequently visits relatives after hours (6)
HAUNTS AUNTS (relatives) after H (hours)
Down
1d That man had position in club associated with driving range (8)
HIMALAYA HIM (that man) + LAY (had position) in AA (club associated with driving)
2d Take a risk in drama of burning intensity? (4,4,4)
PLAY WITH FIRE — A literal interpretation of a PLAY WITH FIRE as a fiery drama
3d Man, a British isle (6)
STAFFA STAFF (man, verb) + A. Staffa is a Scottish island, one of the Inner Hebrides
4d Knowing about daughter selling apps (6)
ADWARE AWARE (knowing) around (about) D (daughter)
5d Principal figure in novel wanting woman’s love (4)
HERO HER (woman’s) + O (love)
8d Run to get home, tricky for most of us English (6,6)
MOTHER TONGUE — An anagram of (… tricky) RUN TO GET HOME
12d Stick from tree (3)
GUM — Two definitions
14d Guess the car I’m in (8)
ESTIMATE ESTATE (the car) with IM in.  “The car” might prompt the same comments as in my previous QC blog
16d A jolly woman in invasion force (6)
ARMADA A + RM (jolly, slang for a Royal Marine) + ADA (woman)
17d Vigorous check in very small housing (6)
PUNCHY CH (check) inside (in … housing) PUNY (very small)
19d One card bearing any number of spots (4)
ACNE ACE (one card) holding (bearing) N (any number)

100 comments on “Times Quick Cryptic 2545 by Teazel – a prickly one”

  1. I can’t believe this made it through the editing process as a QC. It was nothing of the sort.

    My first pass through all 23 clues took 10-12 minutes (I always give each clue some thought before moving on), but only WARY, NUMB and HERO had been written in by then. Little did I know at that point, however, that my (desperately slow) rate of solve had already peaked. I eventually crossed the line, feeling battered and bruised, just a few seconds short of 100 minutes (my absolute outer limit). Even Mrs Random took 58 minutes, 2-3 times as long as normal. And because of the obtuseness of many of the clues, I didn’t even enjoy the chase – a rare thing for me.

    The worst offender was BADINAGE. I DNK the meaning of the word, so I had to rely on the wordplay to arrive at the answer. However, neither Kitty’s blog nor any of the subsequent posts have come close to explaining why ‘OK when you are young?’ = BAD IN AGE. Also, HIMALAYA (LAY for position?), STAFFA (NHO), GUM and ADWARE – difficult clues in their own right – all depended on BADINAGE. Throw in jolly = RM (in ARMADA), the cumbersome use of housing (in PUNCHY) and the unnecessary use of Frequently (in HAUNTS) and the challenge became more of an SAS assault course than a pleasant jog in the park.

    Message to Teazel: Please keep in mind that many (the majority, perhaps) of your QC solvers are simply not equipped to tackle crosswords of this level of difficulty.

    Many thanks to Kitty.

    1. Bloomin’ eck Mr Random – thought I had a tough day.

      FWIW We had BADINAGE in a Wurm puzzle on 23rd Aug this year (#2467) clued then as teasing. But you don’t seem to have commented, I know it was a busy time for you.

      As for explanation … if “banter feels bad in old age” then perhaps it’s okay when you young. Bear in mind, the question mark doesn’t guarantee it being okay. This style of clue suggests you are looking for the opposite of “okay” and “young” i..e “bad” and “age”

      Agree with your comments to Teazel about the QC. If you take people posting on this site as generally the top end solvers – geez, I’m not sure how anyone else is going to be encouraged.

  2. 35:51

    Well that took an eternity. Target is 20 mins and usual cutoff 30 but persevered. Struggled with BADINAGE, ARMADA and LOI FRACTION.

  3. Very hard today and yet another horrible grid. Is that 3 in a row?
    DNF. Didn’t know Staffa. Googled how many island islands in the British Isles and when it came up with 6000 I gave up. J

  4. Well, I thought this was a great puzzle. Loved the slightly off centre thinking that sometimes seemed a wry humour. Took ages, but was worth every minute!

  5. You know what’s coming…

    42 mins (of sheer hell).

    Only four on first pass and many unparsed. Spent a long time on LOI -ADWARE.

    Thoroughly depressed, disillusioned and demoralised – and it’s only Monday!

    Confirmation – as if it was needed – that I am pretty hopeless.

    Another week when I can wave goodbye to my target.

    Did comparatively well again on Quintagram, which just drives me round the bend when I make such a meal out of the QC.

    ☹️

    Thanks for the blog

    1. Hi Gary. As I said below, this was a chewy one. There’s no shame in making a meal out of something if that something is a meal! Hope the rest of the week serves up some puzzles you can enjoy.

  6. Got to this after a long day out.
    Very hard and needed lots of time.
    I had to wear my 15 x 15 hat and did finish.
    ADWARE LOI after DUMPER.
    David

  7. Thanks for the comments all. 🙂

    You have confirmed my initial feeling that this was perhaps a bit hard for the brief. Some QC’s have taken me longer (my time of 11:40 was short of the 15 minutes after which I start to really harrumph) – but that’s usually down to one or two clues which hold out on me, whereas this felt sticky (or gummy, perhaps) all the way through. All I can say to those who are feeling demoralised is please just be assured that this was definitely a tough one, so don’t beat yourself up.

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