If Orpheus was on AM then I was on DAB. A rare dnf for me as I couldn’t solve the long 4dn without all the checkers and I felt I had no chance of 9ac (I hadn’t heard of either of the definitions) and I couldn’t get the clever 23ac without the first letter. So somewhat dissatisfying but that’s down to me. If I’d approached this with the patience I reserve for the 15x15s then maybe I could have done better. I approach the QC more as a romp so was probably too impatient. Please let me know how you got on as I can then judge the difficulty of the puzzle or (highly likely) my sluggishness.
I’ve enjoyed the clever and concise clueing but I’m not as keen on the two names which cropped up in the parsing – although I think Mr. S may enjoy the references.
Definitions are underlined.
Across | |
1 | Twilight start to drive by Welsh river (4) |
DUSK – (D)rive by Welsh river (USK). | |
3 | Enchanting girl entering Italian island from east (8) |
ADORABLE – a random girl (DORA) inside Italian island – Elba – from the east (ABLE). | |
9 | Title of head of household once — Benny, possibly? (7) |
GOODMAN – double definition. The first is archaic for husband/master of household. The second was a US jazz clarinetist and band leader. | |
10 | Modest abode originally, and not a landed estate (5) |
MANOR – (M)odest, (A)bode, and not (NOR). | |
11 | Old US president protected by British motorcyclist (5) |
BIKER – old US president (IKE) surrounded by British (BR). | |
12 | Line on map observed at first in island pub (6) |
ISOBAR – (O)bserved inside island (IS) and pub (BAR). | |
14 | Duplicitous lookalike distributing cards at table (6-7) |
DOUBLE-DEALING – lookalike (DOUBLE), distributing cards at table (DEALING). | |
17 | Tree planted in April in Denmark (6) |
LINDEN – inside Apri(L IN DEN)mark. | |
19 | Relax about initiation of important exam (5) |
RESIT – relax (REST) about (I)mportant. | |
22 | Bouquet given by a painter accepting high honour (5) |
AROMA – a (A), painter (RA) including high honour (OM). | |
23 | Bizarre situation of constable doing desk job (7) |
OFFBEAT – a constable doing a desk job would be off the beat. I quite liked that one. | |
24 | Castigate young creature breaking seat (8) |
LAMBASTE – young creature (LAMB), anagram (breaking) of SEAT. | |
25 | Nail leader of rowdies in criminal environment (4) |
BRAD – (R)owdies inside (in the environment of) criminal (BAD). |
Down | |
1 | Factotum one sort of boxer would have (8) |
DOGSBODY – one sort of boxer is a dog so would have a (DOG’S BODY). | |
2 | Loose garment some initially laugh at (5) |
SMOCK – (S)ome, laugh at (MOCK). | |
4 | New inn dominated by duke’s small terrier (6,7) |
DANDIE DINMONT – anagram (new) of INN DOMINATED by (beside/next to/underneath) duke (D). Collins has a trend of word usage graph which shows this dog first being talked about in about 1800, never used very much, and pretty well petering out in recent times. I suppose this puzzle will increase it’s ‘hits’. | |
5 | Shakespearean hero with capital O (5) |
ROMEO – capital (ROME), O (O). Concise and clever. | |
6 | Asian girl visiting W African state endlessly (7) |
BENGALI – girl (GAL) inside W African state endlessly (BENI)n. | |
7 | Peer demanding attention last of all (4) |
EARL – attention (EAR – as in ‘lend me your’), al(L). ‘Demanding’ seems to be a surface filler. | |
8 | American chap pinches gold, having no principles (6) |
AMORAL – American (AM), random chap (AL). | |
13 | Uneasy, having stirred up trouble (8) |
AGITATED – double definition. | |
15 | College class’s prescribed clothing (7) |
UNIFORM – college (UNI), class (FORM). | |
16 | Daughter interrupting a break at sea? (6) |
ADRIFT – daughter (D) inside a (A) and break (RIFT). Another clever clue. | |
18 | Theatrical piece by doctor, an arts graduate (5) |
DRAMA – doctor (DR), an arts graduate (A MA). | |
20 | Scorn prophet welcoming knight on board (5) |
SNEER – prophet (SEER) welcoming on board knight on a chess board (N). | |
21 | Post a person of masculine gender talked of (4) |
MAIL – homophone (talked of) of ‘of masculine gender’ – male. Don’t often get 3 ‘of”s lined up in a sentence. |
Either the 15x15s are getting easier or the 13x13s are getting harder; either way I feel they need to look at the scoring systems…I’m averaging 810 on one and 770 on the other
I have googled “dandie dinmont” and can confirm they look ridiculous
7:22.
Thanks to Chris for the blog and to Orpheus for the workout.
Brian P
Edited at 2021-05-25 03:38 am (UTC)
Gill D
The rest of the puzzle was not too bad, but the dog was hard to call to mind. Nothing else was that difficult, for me, anyway.
Again
Either the 15x15s are getting easier or the 13x13s are getting harder; either way I feel they need to look at the scoring systems…I’m averaging 810 on one and 770 on the other
I have googled “dandie dinmont” and can confirm they look ridiculous
The wretched hound took up most of my time as I vaguely knew what I was looking for but took a while to untangle it from the anagrist.
I was also delayed over ‘Benny’. I thought of GOODMAN almost immediately but was unware of its other meaning.
Edited at 2021-05-25 06:33 am (UTC)
I didn’t even have 4d marked as an anagram, so miles off there. NHO BRAD, so that led to a blank SE corner. I had MALE not MAIL, so that eliminated LAMBAST. NHO GOODMAN, in either context.
Total disaster, really.
COD DOGSBODY, clever, and made me smile
Thanks as akways
FOI: DUSK
LOI: OFFBEAT (but a DNF after 20 minutes)
COD: DOGSBODY
Thanks to Orpheus and Chris
I vaguely knew the dog so once I had a few checkers it went in without too much of a hold up. Adorable took a while but my real issues were with the NHOs BRAD and GOODMAN (LOI), both of which required multiple alphabet trawls. Finished in 16.25 with my favourite being OFFBEAT.
Thanks to Chris
15:14 but with an error. 2 tougher ones back to back.
Well done & thanks to Orpheus, and thanks to chrisw91 for the blog.
Not that the rest of the puzzle was much easier either. Guessed 25A Brad from the parsing but NHO the meaning nail, and hesitated for some time over the spelling of 24A Lambaste (does anyone else apart from me and the OED spell it Lambast?) Also took too long over 22A Aroma, as I had fixed in my mind “bouquet as a bunch of flowers” not “bouquet as in wine’s smell”. As for 9A Goodman, another NHO, but I put it in on the basis of Benny (who I had heard of) and Goodwife (also heard of), and the reasoning that if Goodwife existed then perhaps Goodman did once too.
As others have already said, the week is off to a pretty challenging start! Many thanks to Chris for the blog
Cedric
Well played Orpheus, thanks Chris.
Templar
Edited at 2021-05-25 08:43 am (UTC)
I have no hesitation admitting to a 24 min solve (technically a dnf because of the weird dog). Thanks to Chris for a good blog dealing nicely with an off-beat ’Curate’s egg’ from Orpheus. John M.
Gill D
Knew Benny Goodman and the dog, but not how to spell it. I had to carefully review the anagrist to place the E.
My problem was LOI BRAD which went in with fingers crossed.
Surely once you’ve seen/heard the name DANDIE DINMONT you don’t forget it? But I don’t recall when I last saw one in the local park.
I enjoyed this-but luckily I had the GK today.
David
NHO of “Goodman”, “Dandie Donut” (or whatever it’s called) or “Brad”. Struggled with 23ac “Offbeat”, 3ac “Adorable” (couldn’t get Capri out of my head for the latter) and made an educated guess for 1dn “Dogsbody”.
As someone mentioned above, I also lurched from Benny Hill to Benny from Crossroads.
FOI — 17ac “Linden”
LOI — dnf
COD — 13dn “Agitated” — only because I was at the end of it…
Thanks as usual!
I didn’t get a chance to comment yesterday, but probably my longest solve ever, although done extremely patchily through several interruptions.
Thanks all.
As a padawan solver, I find Random Name/animal clues (3ac, 8dn, 24ac) virtually impossible – is it best to just keep a list of random names which setters use to hand? And how do you learn whether it’s a random girl’s name (3ac) or another word for girl (6bn)?!
NHO Benny Goodman, Linden Trees, Dandie Dinmont (like another solver, didn’t even see that it was an anagram !), or Brad nails, so would always have had trouble with today’s offering
Not sure how Gold parses to OR in 8dn.
Otherwise, lots of tricky wordplay today made this a long and painful route to giving up.
Mrs R’s time indicates that this was not a QC and, I’m afraid that both of us are now wondering whether we should give Orpheus a miss in future. Mrs R doesn’t like spending more than one cup of coffee on the puzzle, and I just get too demoralised when I can’t even get close to finishing.
Sorry for my gloomy post today (let’s hope for more joy tomorrow), but thanks anyway to Orpheus and to chrisw91.
FOI 21dn MAIL
LOI 1ac DUSK!
I admire the way folks list all things they don’t know!
Experienced solvers make mention of the things they do know, which makes life interesting.
Lovely crossword – 13:45min.
More Orpheus please!
Edited at 2021-05-25 10:49 am (UTC)
Two theories — up the glovers clues TY making the second word city but I can’t make Stoke Ci out of the rest
Or, I need be insert IM into a quiet place
Or, biff Green Army from enumeration!
Edited at 2021-05-25 04:11 pm (UTC)
DNF for QC, Telegraph and now this!
Ah, well… Sigh. I very much liked this puzzle nevertheless, especially 1 down.
With thanks to Chris and to Orpheus.
Gerald Durrell’s “Mother” had a Dandy Dinmont called Dodo in “My Family and Other Animals”, so no problem here!
Sarah B
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Anyway, I had a very slow start, only getting going a third of the way down the grid, but things started to motor once I got BIKER and I came in at 10 minutes. Based on everyone else’s comments, I’m going to claim this as a Good Day, although it is really just my target 😉
I really enjoyed this one – lots of great surfaces and clever cryptics. I sort of reverse engineered BRAD from bradawl, LAMBASTE looks odd with the extra E, and GOODMAN took his time (4/4, 6/8?), but I really liked OFFBEAT and DOGSBODY.
FOI Biker
LOI Smock
COD Romeo – it took will power to push Othello to one side!
Many thanks Orpheus and Chris
A search on DINMONT suggests that the hound has come up only twice prior to today, in a 15×15 10 years ago and a Mephisto a year before that.
Currently enjoying the 2011 comments on the Dandie Dinmont: “Didn’t know the darned dog”, “last in the dog, which I’d obviously never heard of”, “(unknown)”, “Total guess at the dog”, “The dog was new to me”, “came up with DONDIE DINMONT”, “the dastardly dog”, “I had DENNIS DINMONT for the dog”, “a wrong guess at DANDIE DENMONT”, “I had to resort to aids for the dog”, “had to cheat for the unheard of dog”, and “not having heard of ‘Dandie Dinmont'”. To be fair three people had heard of it …including Kevin! (“I imagine it as a little obnoxious terrier with its head hair tied up in a ribbon”)
DNF for me. I managed the terrier with all the checkers and the anagram eventually, but also biffed Prod for Brad which I’d never heard of.
Nice to see the beautiful Elba appearing, the subject of my favourite palindrome: “Able I was ‘ere I saw Elba”
It so happens I thought of the DANDIE DINMONT almost straight away as soon as I got DOUBLE DEALING but also thought it was spelt Dandy so hesitated. (Failed to notice anagram)
Very fast to start with but then stuck on the above, having reckoned at first that it was going to be A Good Day.
Actually I admit I do very vaguely remember Benny Goodman, and I once read a novel where the heroine’s mother bred Dandie Dinmonts.
FOsI DUSK, DOGSBODY (good clue). Also liked OFFBEAT, BIKER, ROMEO.
Thanks vm as ever, Chris.
FOI – 11ac BIKER
LOI – 23ac OFFBEAT
COD – 1dn DOGSBODY (with an honourable mention to 23ac OFFBEAT)
Sarah B
Helped by knowing the wretched hound from somewhere (although I have always found Scott’s novels rather tedious I’m afraid) and the anagram made me realise I would have misspelled it otherwise. The crossers provided by the mutt helped me clinch 23 ac “Offbeat” which was my COD.
NHO “goodman” as a household term but fortunately had heard of Benny.
Thanks to Chris and Orpheus
It had to be Goodman but NHO old title.
Not in the mood today perhaps.
Thanks all
John George
Edited at 2021-05-25 02:58 pm (UTC)
The guy who used to mend our Radio Rentals telly in the 70’s always thought our West Highland White Terrier was a DANDIE DINMONT. The washing machine engineer thought she was a Sealyham !
Solved within target, but with the realisation that many would struggle.
FOI DUSK
LOI LAMBASTE
COD MANOR
TIME 4:01
DNK Brad, but Brod, Bred, Brid, Brud and Bryd didn’t make a word with -awl, so I took a punt.
Thanks to Orpheus and blogger.