Quick Cryptic Number 205 by Mara

Nothing too unusual or obscure here. Even if the geography or mythology are unfamiliar, the wordplay leaves very little room for error. I thought many of the down clues were elegant and witty, 3, 5, 6 and 7 in particular.

Very best wishes for the holidays.

Across
1 SWEDEN– ED (editor) has NEWS backwards (returned information) around it (about) for the country. I found this surprisingly difficult to parse on paper!
4 CLOVER– LOVER (enthusiast) alongside C (first letter, or front, of conservatory) gives plant.
8 WESTERN– WE (you and I) plus BACK (stern, of a ship) for film.
10 ASCOTracecoursefrom SCOT (highlander, possibly) behind A.
11 TALON– the definition is claw, which is part of eagleT A LONg.
12 GO TO POTfail completely. Cooking ingredients may also do this.
13 SOLITAIRE– anagram of TIE with SAILOR (indicated by unexpectedly) for game.
17 SPECTRAranges of coloursthat is an anagram of CARPETS (indicated by woven).
19 FRIARbrother, and a homophone of “frier” (one preparing eggs).
20 REIGN– if something were to fall, it would rain. This homophone (reported) means dominion.
21 EARNEST– anagram of EASTERN (indicated by cooking) gives genuine.
22 SIGNET– another homophone! Hearing the word “cygnet” (little bird) might make you think of this seal. I only recently discovered that sealing letters is the purpose of these rings.
23 POETRY– POE (US author) plus TRY (to attempt) for verse.
Down
1 SOWETO– SO WET (very damp) plus O (old) for this townshipin South Africa.
2 EASY LISTENING– anagram of SEEING SAINTLY (indicated by novel) for something which is simply noted(straightforward musically).
3 ETERNALendlessfrom last letter of dialoguE (dialogue finally) with an anagram of LEARNT (indicated by surprisingly).
5 LEAST– last letter of scorE (score ultimately) put inside LAST (at the end) gives lowest.
6 VICE PRESIDENT– anagram of ISNT PERCEIVED (indicated by doctor) for second in command.
7 ROTATE– the first word in the clue, turn, is the definition. OT (to turns) inside RATE (speed).
9 NIGHTMARE– NIGHT (dark) plus MARE (horse) in terrifying experience.
14 INFERNO– INFER (imply) with NO (a rejection) is hell.
15 OSIRIS– the first letter of Outstanding (outstanding head) plus SIR (teacher) plus IS for god.
16 PRETTY– double definition.
18 TENSE– an example of a tense (past, perhaps) and emotionally strained.

23 comments on “Quick Cryptic Number 205 by Mara”

  1. I quite liked this one. I went up several wrong paths, thinking of ‘gen’ in 1ac, ‘fan’ in 4ac, and of course DR, MO, MB at 6d; I don’t recall ‘doctor’ being used in a Quickie as anagrind, although of course it shows up in the bigger cryptics, and needs to be kept in mind, which is what I didn’t. I don’t, on the other hand, much care for clues where the anagrist is not clearly within the scope of the anagrind, as in 13ac: ‘sailor’ is not within the scope of ‘unexpectedly’ (cf. ‘Tie with sailor unexpectedly’), which is why I chased all the usual suspects (TAR, AB, OS) first. William, you’ve got a typos at 3d: LEART. 6:30.
    1. Even though people often think they are. The speaker or writer may (or may not) imply something. The listener (or reader) may or may not infer the true meaning of what was said (or written) correctly. But implication and inference are two different things.
      1. That aside I did enjoy this puzzle which was on the quicker end of the scale for me. LOI rotate but once the checkers were there it was obvious.
      2. Hi, sorry did not mean to repeat your point in my comment below. As I was typing up my comment, yours had not yet appeared…
  2. Fairly straightforward fare, I thought, but agree with Kevin there was some nice misdirection to keep you on your toes.

    Don’t want to open a can of worms (particularly in the festive season!) but I am a bit queasy with imply clueing infer, when they are essentially opposites.

    I seem to recall (either here or on the main cryptic blog) a discussion about this in recent months where opinions were divided, and I have revisited Chambers which (under INFER) includes “imply – often condemned as a misuse, but generally accepted over four centuries”. Well, that would appear to be that: suffice to say I am spiritually anchored 401 years ago where there was a clear acceptance of the difference.

    There is also always the pragmatic analysis “did you work out the answer from the clue? If yes, then it’s OK…” In which case fair enough. But…

    Thanks to William for a neat blog – compliments of the season to you! – and to our setter Mara.

    1. Well, I did work out the answer from the word play but then I’m from Norfolk – infer anything you want from that (and I won’t mind) 🙂
      1. Love the lovely Norfolk. Many happy holidays on the north Norfolk coast, and many happy hours scouring the second hand bookshops in Holt and Sheringham.
    2. Nick – interesting re Chambers. The OED says ‘imply and infer do not mean the same thing and should not be used interchangeably’. Quite a difference of opinion! (I’m with the OED on this.)
  3. I’m not sure why faceofboe replied to me, but in fact I was going to mention the same thing. Dis-/un-interested etc. etc. don’t bother me, but for some reason confounding infer/imply always gets up my nose. My problem, I realize; but still.
    1. I didn’t think I was replying to you. My apologies.

      Dis and un interested annoy me even more – infer and imply are not synonyms but they are not opposites either, they are actions by different actors and sometimes they are linked. Disinterest is GOOD – lack of bias (which in my world is crucial). Being uninterested may be bad, depending on the context. Disinterest is always reasonable even in a context where one of the actors might actually prefer it if there was some (favourably) bias at play.

      The fact that so many people don’t know basic English does not in and of itself excuse retrofitting meanings to change them to what people would like them to mean when this is based on ignorance rather than a conscious decision to reclaim or repurpose a word (eg wicked – I haven’t got a problem with that being used in its original or modern context, since it’s fairly easy to understand which meaning is intended).

      Having said all that I do now use Moo point and supposeably both as a result of the relevant friends episodes so I may be a bit of a hypocrite. 😉

  4. I found this a pleasant amble through crossword land with COD 8ac. Seems I find the ones I blog the most difficult – there’s probably a connection.
  5. Way off the mark today at 17 minutes and for some reason it was the SW corner that gave most trouble. I had LISTENING and TENSE in place but the remainder took ages to bring to mind.

    On imply / infer etc I take the view that anything in the usual dictionaries is fair enough, even when it’s “wrong” with any complaints to go to the lexicographers and not to the crossword setter / editor. We had an imply / infer exchange only a couple of days ago here or in the main cryptic, but I’m reminded we haven’t had mechanic /engineer for a while!

    Edited at 2014-12-19 10:48 am (UTC)

    1. 17 minutes for me too, the difference being that this is a record! Definitely improving with practice. I tried out the main cryptic crossword yesterday for the first time for ages and found it more straightforward than I used to. Dare I believe that regular engagement with the quick cryptic has made a difference?
  6. Find much to share with Anonymous as I slowly improve and wonder if I could attempt the harder one. Thanks to all the bloggers. They provide the incentive to keep going and something to look forward to even if I do not solve it all without help. I managed it all today though and the last were Soweto and Sweden. I am back with the newspaper and finding it easier than the IPad as I can see how I am getting on. But is there an IPad version somewhere that I am missing?
    1. There’s a subscription of £4 a week for the app version. I think you get some time as a free preview to try it out. There’s also the £2 a week ‘online’ version which allows access via
      Safari. You can play the quick cryptic but not the main one – but that one is printable.
      1. Thanks Chris. I imagine that you are talking of the Times Crossword Club and I will explore this further as it looks good. I have been using my ordinary Times subscription with an App on the IPad which has enabled me to enter and check words as I find them but It seems that this has been discontinued.

        Edited at 2014-12-19 08:33 pm (UTC)

        1. Message repeated as it was marked as spam because I included a link.

          Here it is again – link-less.

          I have the Sunday Digital pack for £2 a week which gives online access (via Safari) to the Times and Sunday Times papers. Click on puzzles, then the crossword link and you get to the Quick crossword which can be played online. The 15×15 must be printed. You can also access the crossword club via the link given on the crossword page.

          Looks like the digital pack at £6 a week is still on. Try Googling for the Times subscriptions.

          Maybe there’s just a problem with the app. A few months ago I could only play the Quick on the iPad in portrait rather than landscape mode. Maybe you need to download the latest version of the Times app from the App Store.

  7. After a slow start I finished this in 30 minutes which is good for me. Plenty of anagrams which I like. Clues made up of several parts e.g. 15d hold me up but are neat. I also only recently realised the function of a signet ring. Thanks for the blog and comments which are always interesting.
  8. I came on-line in a fit of pompous rage to complain about infer and imply only to find so many had been there before me. However here’s my penny worth. This particularly annoys me because these are reciprocal actions which are now frequently confused and thus often creating a confusion. Full of admiration for Mara for many clever clues but I’m afraid a tap across the knuckles over that…..excellent blog too, many thanks
    1. Yes, infer/imply confusion is a pet hate of mine too. I always say to a confused person to think of ‘infer’ as meaning ‘deduce’ and that way there should be no confusion. End of rant!
  9. While we are on pet hates, am I the only living person who still persists in calling a 12″ piece of wood with marked divisions a rule rather than a ruler (which has no divisions)? My biology teacher was a stickler for this, and would hit you with the same if you got it wrong. Well under 2 hours by the way, so definitely improving. Invariant

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