24619 – Howdy, sailor

Solving time: 9:09

Most of this was pretty quick, but the NE corner put up a fight – my order for this: 6, 10, 8, 12, 5, 14, 4D. 11 and 1D went in without full wordplay understanding.

Across
1 BECOME – 2 defs – an old chestnut, but the kind that reads so smoothly that it can easily fool you more than once if they put it back in the box for long enough. (become = suit) is as in “Your mouth’s wide open and it don’t become you” – a Boomtown Rats lyric found for me by Google
4 FLAP=stew,PER=”for every” – more on flappers here if you need it
9 MADAM – “still looking in mirror” is one way of saying that this is a palindrome
10 ANNA – our third lady in a row,POLIS(h) – Annapolis was apparently the temporary capital of the US (1783-4), but is now best known as the site of the US Naval Academy
11 ADVERSARY – (A,S=special,REV.) reversed, in (A,DRY=dull)
12 RE=on=concerning,RUN=travel
13 TAR=salt=sailor,(tow)N – full detail on tarns here
14 LIBERTY MAN = (by terminal)* – a new word for me, though easily understood
18 CONS=does=tricks(IS=lives),TORY – a consistory (= “consistory court”) is presided over by a bishop
20 JAWS – 2 defs, one as in Churchill’s “jaw, jaw / war, war” quote, and the other from the 1975 movie
23 STRAP = parts, reversed
24 QUICK=brainy,STEP = pets = blue-eyed boys, reversed
25 PRESS=reporters, GA(N)G – “force” and “press-gang” work best as verbs here, though a press gang is a sort of “force” too. More surprising is the verbal “gag” (to tell joke), but this is supported by COED
26 PRUNE – 2 defs – the Oxford Dictionaries site gives a good example of the “disagreeable person” one
27 ROYALTY = payment – the initial L in loyalty=allegiance is changed. This clue seems to work equally well for “payment after initially changing = LOYALTY” and that’s what I wrote first, but S?P?L as checkers for 23D didn’t look promising.
28 MEDDLE = “medal” – ‘tinker’ is a verb in the cryptic reading
 
Down
1 BO = O.B. (old boy) reversed=up,M(B)ASTIC – mastic is the tree that supplies the original version of this gum, as well as the gum itself
2 CAD,AVER=to state with conviction – “stiff” as cadaver comes up eventually in this smorgasbord of bad taste
3 MEMO=note,RY.=railway=lines
4 FANCY – 2 defs – looks simple, but hard enough for me – my last answer
5 AS=like,P(E.R.)ITY – asperity = “a rough manner” is quite tricky – I though it was related to aspersion, but apparently not
6 PIL=rev. of lip,GRIM=ghastly – the ultimate destination of pilgrimages was often a shrine such as that of Thomas Becket at Canterbury
7 RE-SIN = be naughty again, and cannabis in the form of hashish is a resin
8 S(wing),A,LARIAT=rope – salariat is another word in the “obscure but easily guessed” category
15 Today’s omitted answer
16 NOSE=”knows”,PIECE – one meaning of nosepiece is “the central part of a pair of glasses that fits over the bridge of the nose”
17 DISPOSAL = (iPod, lass)* – a fairly accurate surface about a modern-day teenager
19 NURSE=harbour (vb.),R(ust)Y – I had to use the dictionary to discover that a nursery cannon is “a cannon which keeps the balls close together” (Billiards, he adds, to stop any sniggering at the back – I wonder if this answer has been used in the Private Eye puzzle yet …)
21 A,S(T)OUND – minor delay with this one from trying to start it with AG(e) = “a short time”
22 SKOPJE – P=parking, in jokes* – the capital of Macedonia really needs a X??XX? or ?X?XX? pattern of checking letters for maximum bafflement
23 SUP(p)ER – “one quietly had to leave” is a marvellous combination of precise clue-writing with convicing surface meaning (as long as you don’t mind some clues being in the past tense)
24 QUA(K)Y – appearing close to SKOPJE, this suggested a possible pangram, but H,X,Z are missing

26 comments on “24619 – Howdy, sailor”

  1. Another rather easy puzzle, just under 20 minutes to solve. No hold-ups or queries. Is a knowledge of nursery cannons evidence of a misspent youth?
    1. Yes, as is doing this horror in under 20 minutes.

      I had a completed grid (with ASPERATE instead of ASPERITY)at my cut-off time but the idea that I “solved” it is a bit of a stretch as had at least 6 guesses.

  2. Im afraid i really struggled with this but got there in the end. Of course Comsistory was the problem as i had Commisary for a while but that was becaure i had the word play wrong. I liked the puxxle althought the time it took me was off the scale
    congratulations on the sub 7 minute time!
    1. Thanks, but as you’ll see from my hasty repost below (thank goodness this board allows you to delete entries) 6 minutes was a typo.
  3. Oh dear, rather trickier, and after making moderate progress, had to get help to be de-mired for 24 dn. Considered SHAKY and FLAKY, then went blank. After looking for dock the weed, dock to shorten, and dock to marry together, I missed the dock where the boats go! Other than that, 28 min. SALARIAT and CONSISTORY (more churchy twaddle) unheard of but had to be. No COD but a fair workout.
  4. 16 minutes, including a sudden freeze in the lower half. I’ve heard of NURSERY cannons, but never knew what they were. Not helped much today by entering 24d as SHAKY to begin with, “shay” obviously meaning dock in one of its many guises. Couldn’t the decide between the hitherto unknown Sharp Step or Smart Step until rescued by SKOPJE. Skopje is always sssociated with the word “earthquake” for me which I suspect is a dead giveaway on age. I also (nearly) muffed ASPERITY, the rough manner attracting me to apirate, which certainly didn’t feel right but took a while to shake off.
    PRUNE was, in my youth, a term of affection garnered from I’m Sorry I’ll Read That Again, who developed Radio Prune as an antidote to Radio One (…is lots of fun like migraine headaches) and Sir Angus of the Prune, a disguise adopted by their spoof Robin Hood. Can’t imagine it as a negative – it’s more like the contemporary (or nearly) “muppet”.
    FANCY = crazy? Isn’t that unwisely rude to pigeon racers?
    And was anyone really frightened by JAWS?
    CoD to PILGRIM
    1. FANCY = crazy? Isn’t that unwisely rude to pigeon racers?

      Indeed it would – but surely “Be crazy about” = FANCY?

  5. I started a bit slowly but made steady progress completing most of the RH and some of the SW in about 30 minutes. When I ran out time on the move, around 60 minutes in, I had completed all but 8dn, 18ac and 19dn and was out of ideas so on arrival at he office I resorted to aids.

    The first thing I discovered was that I had an error at 4dn where I had plumped for FADDY thinking it sort of worked but I can see now that it doesn’t. I then compounded this error by inventing the US city of LADYPOLIS and I admit I wasn’t quite so hopeful about that one being correct.

    Of course this then stumped me at 8 down but I wouldn’t have known the word SALARIAT anyway. I also didn’t know CONSISTORY and I have never heard of NURSERY cannons so I think I was never going to finish this puzzle without looking things up.

    Does ‘FANCY’ = ‘be crazy about’? It seems a bit strong to me. And is a ‘PRUNE’ a ‘disagreeable’ person? Not according to the dictionaries that I’ve looked in (Collins, Chambers, Dictionary.com). Maybe it’s in the Oxfords.

    1. I’ve always thought of a PRUNE as being a silly person, not a necessarily a disagreeable one. Perhaps it’s the early influence of Frank Crumit.
    2. Sorry, PB, was your link to the Oxford dictionary there first thing this morning? If so I must have missed it and it would have dealt with my query before I raised it. Now that I’m home I find this meaning is also in the COED.
  6. Just under the hour for this one, having got all bar three (8, 18, 19) in 40 minutes. Finally broke the trio be getting CONSISTORY (from the definition first – Trollopean kind of word), entered NURSERY because it was the only thing that fitted, and then resorted to aids for SALARIAT, which I was never within a million miles of.

    COD to MEDDLE for the elegant, and somewhat misleading, simplicity. I can’t believe I can be the only person to think of this fellow at 23dn?

  7. 18:56 .. quite a spread of times today. Perhaps this was a ‘wavelength’ puzzle.

    Some very nice surfaces. I especially like the one for QUICKSTEP – with its rhythm and alliteration it could be a Morrissey lyric (The Rusholme Quickstep, perhaps).

    Last in SALARIAT.

  8. 45 minutes today – Just like Jackkt I was flummoxed by CONSISTORY (didn’t know – eventually got from wordplay) , NURSERY – was totally blinkered into considering one kind of cannon , and, lastly, SALARIAT which I didn’t even know I was a member of.
    Other than that I had SHAKY for a while.
    So a tough solve all round – looking at the rest of the times I might have expected 15-20 minutes but didn’t get the brain out of second gear today
  9. Totally defeated by SALARIAT, CONSISTORY and NURSERY today. If I had managed one of them I might have got the others but the pattern of missing crossers this left me with for three unknowns was too much. I thought of SALARIED for 8dn but that was as close as I got.
    Like others I was a bit surprised by the definition of PRUNE but at least I got that one.
    Not a successful week so far. A timely reminder that whilst I can usually do these things in respectable time I am a long way from achieving real consistency.
  10. Stuck at end on 8d (never heard of the class, or of the rope) / 3d / 1d / 18ac / 9ac / 1ac

    I didn’t find this quite so easy – 40 minutes to get all but 8d and most of the NW corner, though with in retrospect 4d and 5d wrong (FUNNY and ASPERATE respectively, and with very little defence in the latter case).

    8d needed a dictionary search, as I’ve heard of either the class or the rope, and the rest fell over the course of an hour, off and on, from 3d / 9ac / 1ac / 1d to, finally, 18ac.

    COD 2d.

  11. I was a bit puzzled by the word “repeatedly” in the clue for 19dn, wondering what it had to do with keeping the balls close together. I may have been the only one but if not then this makes it about as clear as you could wish.
    1. Good call – every word counts. Cradle cannons seem to be very similar. Next time John Virgo tells us about the virtues of billiards on a snooker commentary, I’ll know what to think.
    2. According to the OED a “nursery” is

      7. Billiards. A group of balls kept close together in order for a series of cannons to be made.

      and “nurse” means

      9. trans. Billiards. To keep (the balls) close to one another in order to enable a prolonged series of cannons to be made.

      Nursery cannons therefore come in a series.

  12. 40 minutes after a very slow start. Some very decent surfaces in this one indeed. I did like the brainy blue-eyed boys but COD to SALARIAT, for the word and the lariat; I haven’t heard that used since the TV western Bronco. It turns out the star’s (Ty Hardin) real name was Orison Whipple Hungerford, Jr and in real life he was the leader of an anti-semite anti-government group called the Arizona Patriots. You wouldn’t see that happen today – Whipple has gone right out of fashion as a middle name.
    1. Orison can’t be very common, either. Did Hamlet put the kibosh on it, I wonder, in his “suicide” soliloquy, “Nymph, in thy orisons be all my sins remembered”?
  13. Somewhat difficult, I thought. About 45 minutes ending with the CONSISTURY/NURSERY crossing. I finally pegged CONSISTORY from the wordplay, and entered NURSERY also from wordplay but more for the fact that it seemed the only possible fit for N?R?E?Y. Looked it up afterwards and found the billiards connection which, of course, I’d never heard of, ditto that sense of MADAM, and SALARIAT. I’ll vote for QUICKSTEP as COD. Regards to everyone.
  14. Very slow today, wading through molasses on the NW and SE corners (solved only after long rests) and finally stumped by the CONSISTORY/NURSERY crossing, which I needed dictionary assistance with. Never heard of either of these two.

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