TIMES QUICK CRYPTIC NO 684 by Hurley Friday 21st October 2016

TIMES QUICK CRYPTIC NO 684 by Hurley

Friday 21st October 2016

“And every one of them words rang true…”

The more blogging I do, the more I realize how difficult the setter’s art is. Consider the fantastic surface meanings of 9ac, 16 ac, 19 ac, 3d, 4d, 5d, 6d and others in today’s offering from Hurley (who outed himself recently as a very famous person, from Cork and then Millwall, and most memorably Sunderland). Some solvers never look at the surface, and immediately try to deconstruct and then parse the clue; they are missing out. About average for me today (8 minutes, I’d be faster on paper).

By the way, this weekend is the 15×15 National Championships. Rather like the Olympics, best not to compare yourself with those who are there, but to watch, admire and learn.

All comments and feedback are most welcome.

ACROSS

1. A purist’s worked out on the first floor? (8)

UPSTAIRS – an anagram (worked out) of ‘A purist’s’. This may be news to our American cousins, where the first floor is what we call the ground floor.

6. Small fuss over drink (4)

SODA – Definition is ‘drink’, in the UK an addition to spirits usually, in the US a general term for soft drink. S = small + ADO (fuss) backwards (over)

8. Ineffective person with island politician (4)

WIMP – an ineffective person, ‘with’ = W, + ‘island’ = I, + ‘politician’ = MP

9. Sailor, southeastern, at a distance, I hesitate to say (8)

SEAFARER – Definition is ‘Sailor’, ‘southeastern’ = SE, + ‘at a distance’ = AFAR, + ‘I hesitate to say’ = ER

10. If coming back, dwell where it’s warm (8)

FIRESIDE – FI (if coming back) + RESIDE (dwell), a FIRESIDE is warm. All together now: “You can knit a sweater by the fireside, Sunday morning go for a ride….”

11. Cutting pastry (4)

TART – a TART remark can be cutting, a TART is a pastry. My LOI (last one in), short words are often harder and even then need careful parsing.

13. Replace pro? Ire develops in vehicle (6, 7)

PEOPLE CARRIER – An anagram (develops) of ‘Replace pro? Ire’. One of those odd expressions which has a specific meaning. One could argue that all cars are ‘people carriers’ but these are specifically seven-seaters, more seats and the vehicles would be minibuses and be allowed in bus lanes. Cue complicated discussion about MPVs, SUVs and the said PEOPLE CARRIERs.

16. Advanced just before Easter (4)

LENT – as in ‘advanced’ money. The forty days before Easter are a penitential season in the church calendar.

17. Flatter senior citizen after newspaper in call for help (4-4)

SOFT SOAP – an old expression used by my parents’ generation to mean ‘flatter’ (big up, not less steep). Newspaper (FT = Financial Times) in SOS = ‘call for help’, followed by OAP = senior citizen.

19. Cheapest tickets were here in the main (8)
STEERAGE – The word ‘main’ should trigger thoughts of the sea. Wikipedia says it all: “Steerage is the lower deck of a ship, where the cargo was stored above the closed hold. During the early 1900s many immigrants were too poor to travel on the upper decks, with wealthy passengers, so they were stuffed in converted cargo spaces which provided the lowest cost and lowest class of travel. The living conditions on the steerage deck were often horrible, with no bathroom facilities besides pots and pans. These horrible conditions caused many deaths due to unsanitary and cramped quarters. Gradual improvements to steerage class after the arrival of ocean liners led to its replacement by Third Class cabins.”
21. Get tree branch (4)
TWIG – To ‘twig’ means to understand or ‘get’. I always thought a twig was on a branch, but maybe this means something that branches off a tree.
22. Regularly consult old King (4)
CNUT – Danish king of England who is erroneously believed to have tried to turn back the tide. From CoNsUlT (regularly, every other letter). Sometimes Anglicised as CANUTE.
23. Fish move with difficulty (8)
FLOUNDER – Double meaning, a FLOUNDER is a fish and the verb means to move with difficulty.
DOWN
2. Resolved gripe about shameful unfair advantage (9)

PRIVILEGE – An anagram (resolved) of GRIPE about VILE (shameful) = PRIVILEGE (unfair advantage). An easy word to misspell, and to argue about.

3. Cree petitioner carries up old shelter? (5)

TEPEE – This is a down clue, so ‘carries up’ indicates a reversal. Nice surface here, a Cree is a Native American, and some Native Americans lived in TEPEES (variant spellings).

4. Instigate one new church feature (7)

INSPIRE – = ‘instigate’, ‘one’ = I + ‘new’ = N + ‘church feature’ = SPIRE. Some churches have towers, the Ordnance Survey still distinguishes in symbols between those with spires and those with towers, useful for navigating.

5. Put money aside to acquire old Italian wine (5)

SOAVE – SAVE (‘put money aside’) including (‘to acquire’) O = old. SOAVE is a white Italian wine, which my wife drinks.

6. Ultimately vacuous glib talk in splash (7)

SPATTER – ‘Ultimately vacuous’ = S + ‘glib talk’ = PATTER, SPATTER = ‘splash’.

7. Party supported by English female (3)

DOE – ‘Party’ = DO, above (supported by, this is a Down clue) E = English. A DOE is a female deer, start singing now: “Let’s start at the very beginning…”

12. Ask further questions about old article on pit (2-7)

RE-EXAMINE – Definition is ‘Ask further questions’; ‘about’ = RE + ‘old’ = EX + ‘article’ = A + (on, this is a Down clue) ‘pit’ = MINE.

14. I entered into clear understanding (7)

PATIENT – ‘I’ in PATENT (clear), one who is ‘understanding’ is PATIENT.

15. Some fly-half, redoubtable Spaniard perhaps (7)

ALFREDO – the Spanish name, in the clue (some) fly- h{ALF, REDO}ubtable.

17. Evidence of damage on female neckwear (5)

SCARF – SCAR (evidence of damage) + (on, this is a Down clue) F = female = SCARF (neckwear)

18. He’s sinful, awfully tempting and nefarious first of all? (5)

SATAN. Very good surface here, see introductory comments above. It’s the first letters of the words (first of all), plus the whole clue gives a definition, this is what some call an ‘&lit’.

20.Number brunette’s holding up (3)

TEN. This is a Down clue, so ‘brunette’upside-down includes the word TEN.

16 comments on “TIMES QUICK CRYPTIC NO 684 by Hurley Friday 21st October 2016”

  1. I had to jump around the grid a lot in order to keep up momentum as there were very few clues here that were solvable at first glance and without a checker or two in place. I’m still kicking myself for the number of times I read 22ac before making sense of it. I thought of alternate letters, got as far as CN and looked no further as it couldn’t be right, could it? In my defence I should add that in my schooldays he was “Canute”. I also looked twice at TWIG for “branch” but amongst other definitions SOED has: a small branch or shoot of a tree or shrub.

    On surface readings of clues, I tend to ignore them whilst solving as they often mislead by suggesting a wrong train of thought, but I am learning to go back and appreciate them after completion because they can be a treat, particularly at the moment it seems, in both Times puzzles.

    Edited at 2016-10-21 12:43 am (UTC)

  2. 22ac CNUT was clever and COD.

    Time 10.38 was just not good enough – I agree it would have been quicker on paper.

    LOI PRIVILEGE

    FOI & WOD SOAVE

  3. UPSTAIRS took me a bit, even though I knew the anagrist from the start; the US/UK difference in ‘1st floor’ always throws me, especially as I can never remember what I think the term means. Flung in ‘install’ unthinkingly at 4d, which slowed me a bit on 10ac. The Cree, by the way, are Canadian Indians; nice surface, but seeing ‘Cree’ in the clue suggested something like a hidden. 5:53.
    1. Well, I’m British, so I have no excuse for it being my last one in, but it was. About sixteen minutes, so I found this one on the hard side. One of those where you can’t quite see where the trouble came from once you know the answers…
  4. Was breezing through this until I got to 17ac, 23ac and 19ac. Never heard of SOFT SOAP or FLOUNDER, but they are gettable. I couldn’t get “star” out of my head for 17ac, in relation to newspaper, and was convinced the first word was “safe”. I would recommend attempting the 15×15 today. I’m usually terrible at tit, but I’ve got seven so far. Gribb.
  5. Needed two sessions (and the first one was long enough) to crack the 6d/11ac pairing, so a bit of a struggle all round today. Couldn’t parse 19ac for the life of me, but I see I am not alone – not what I would call a cryptic clue. Invariant
  6. I attempt your crossword ever since it started and am still a novice really. It would help if you explained to my contempories what a surface is – I think I have worked it out but would others like me do so ?
    1. The “surface’ is short for the surface reading of the clue before solving. The best ‘surfaces’ make perfect sense, the very best point you in the wrong direction as well.
      Brian
    2. Brian has explained it very well. I’d perhaps add that the surface reading is a literal reading of the words in the clue.
  7. I would add also that the convention is that a crossword clue should read like a piece of normal English.
  8. Cnut/Canute did try and turn back the tide – but he knew it wouldn’t work: he was proving to his courtiers that he wasn’t as omnipotent as they told him he was. It’s a common mistake that journalists often make, to assume that he thought it would be successful.

    Diana

  9. agree some lovely surfaces but not too misleading. After a very patchy week, nice to finish over two sessions and a pleasant 75 minutes relaxation. Went wrong first time round with 22a as Odin but realised I had miscounted and soon found Cnut. No idea why 9a seafarer went straight in but struggled to get 13a people carrier. COD 17a soft soap and LOI 6a soda as didn’t cotton on to ‘over=reverse’. Lovely puzzle and thx for the blog. Roll on Monday…
  10. I found this quite tricky, particularly the NW where it took me ages to work out the anagram in 1a. Once I got that the rest followed in good order. Eventually crossed the line in 23 mins. COD 16a and LOI 10a (was sure it was going to end in live).
  11. I thought this was another excellent QC. I solved it on a train to Deal, not quick, rather like the train. But I did get it all correct. Thought Steerage was difficult and was delighted when it occurred to me. Struggled a bit with the anagram for 1a but persisted and got it eventually. LOI was 11a ;wasn’t sure about tart = cutting. Favourite 10a. David
  12. For the avoidance of any possible doubt, the setter will mention that, as a long-time Sunderland fan, he chose the pseudonym Hurley for this crossword series in honour of Charlie Hurley, the former Sunderland player. A special puzzle 671 appeared in the series to mark Charlie’s 80th birthday, on Tuesday 4 October 2016.

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