Times Quick Cryptic No 2664 by Izetti

Solving time: 8:11

I wonder whether any solvers might find their brow furrowed and virtual pen chewed a little here. There are a great many answers here suggesting that small nuggets of information might help to colour in the picture of how each word came to be derived – I particularly enjoyed the notion of melting ballerinas at 6d. The long word at 10a has only one checker for its first three letters, and its archaic use may fox one or two? Also, the Italian hotel manager/Mafia boss may not be well known to all, but is a classic follow-the-cryptic.

All in all, a mediumly meaty challenge from the Don. How did you all get on?

Definitions are underlined in bold italics, {deletions and substitutions are in curly brackets} and [directions in square ones].

Across
1 Boozy yob, exceptionally large, joining group outside university (5,4)
LAGER LOUT – Anagram [exceptionally] of LARGE, followed by LOT (group) outside U university
6 Last bit of resistance of retreating enemy (3)
FOE – Last bit i.e. last letter of {resistanc}E then OF all reversed [retreating]
8 Most audacious and better than the rest — mature within (7)
BOLDESTBEST (better than the rest), insert OLD (mature)
9 Interior of pub — about to be done over (5)
INNERINN (pub) RE (about) reversed [to be done over]
10 Maybe a time before Christmas by Yorkshire river (12)
PERADVENTUREPER (a) ADVENT (time before Christmas) by URE (Yorkshire river)

The build instructions are pretty clear for this word which comes from Old French “par auenture” meaning “by chance”.

Earworm alert!!

PER can substitute for A when it is a preposition. F’rinstance, in the song “I’ve Got A Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts”, the fairground showman calls “Roll or bowl a ball, a penny a pitch”, only the final ‘a’ is a preposition and could be substituted by PER.

12 Eastern money consumed for legislative body (6)
SENATESEN (Eastern money) ATE (consumed)

1 SEN = 1/100th of a Japanese yen or a Brunei dollar/ringgit

13 Bishop with lamp maybe revealing plant disease (6)
BLIGHTB (Bishop – chess notation) with LIGHT (lamp maybe)

Typically caused by fungi such as mildews, rusts and smuts.

16 Having much responsibility, like a driver with warm bottom? (2,3,3,4)
IN THE HOT SEAT – Amusing cryptic definition

The OED cites the term ‘HOT SEAT’ as a 1920s colloquialism for the electric chair.

Wikipedia suggests that the term was coined by Harpo Marx who was frequently invited to parties thrown by newspaper tycoon William Randolph Hearst, remarking that when Hearst disliked a guest, the guest would be seated at the far end of the long table nearest to the fireplace and never invited back.

However, there are much earlier examples of “hot seat” as a difficult or uncomfortable position, including a newspaper article from 1857 regarding U.S. President, James Buchanan, escaping the “hot seat of government” while on vacation at Niagara Falls.

19 False gods, surprisingly solid (5)
IDOLS – Anagram [suprisingly] of SOLID
20 Accommodation given to king and one Italian boss (7)
PADRONEPAD (Accommodation) given to R (king i.e. rex) and ONE

In Italy, a PADRONE is a hotel owner or manager.

In the United States, PADRONEs were labour brokers, often Italian immigrants or first-generation Americans, acting as middlemen to find work for immigrants. The term was also used to described a Mafia boss.

22 Some burning inside to get drink (3)
GIN – Hidden [Some] in burning inside
23 Very tired journalists finally meeting mad man (editor) (9)
SHATTERED – {journalist}S [finally i.e. final letter of] meeting HATTER (mad man) then ED (editor)
Down
1 Innocent little creatures losing heart in workplaces (4)
LABSLAMBS (Innocent little creatures) losing heart i.e. strike out the middle letter
2 Ship that’s gone out to save everyone (7)
GALLEON – Anagram [out] of GONE to save i.e. insert ALL (everyone)
3 Regret the way of Napoleon (3)
RUE – ‘way’ or ‘street’ to the French-speaking Napoleon would be RUE
4 Eight days of celebration in month on avenue (6)
OCTAVEOCT (month i.e. OCTober) on AVE (avenue)

In the sense of the definition, there are two OCTAVEs still observed in the Christian calendar – Easter (Easter Sunday through to the following Sunday) and Christmas (Christmas Day through to New Years Day). In the case of the latter, there are several feast days observed.

5 Elgar isn’t bad — do they tinkle in his music? (9)
TRIANGLES – Semi-&lit? Anagram [bad] of ELGAR ISN’T – with the second part of the clue, a mildly cryptic definition containing ‘his’ referring back to Elgar in the first part of the clue.
6 Found different ballet movement (5)
FONDU – Anagram [different] of FOUND

As with cheese in a Swiss fondue, the French word FONDU in ballet means ‘melting’. It describes a controlled and gradual movement of a dancer bending their supporting leg. Where a plié is done on two legs, a fondu is done on a single leg.

7 Serious listener has comfortable home (7)
EARNESTEAR (listener) NEST (comfortable home)
11 Female performers, experts concealing long hair (9)
ACTRESSESACES (experts) containing [concealing] TRESS (long hair)
12 Old Bob ill, out on the briny? (7)
SAILINGS (Old Bob i.e. shilling) AILING (ill)

You may need to be of a certain age (pre-decimalisation) to remember when a shilling was almost always referred to colloquially as a bob. The most popular theory as to why this was, suggests a link to Sir Robert Walpole (‘Bob’ being a diminutive of ‘Robert’), Prime Minister from 1721-1742 and Chancellor of the Exchequer before that. Walpole reduced the Land tax from four shillings to three, then two and finally one shilling, which would have been quite popular at the time.

The ‘briny’ is the sea, brine being very salty water.

14 Attractiveness of heartless girl having secret affair (7)
GLAMOUR – Remove the inner letters [heartless] of G{ir}L, then AMOUR (secret affair)
15 Capone with bear turning up for fair game? (6)
HOOPLA – Definition by example of a game that you might play at a fair. AL (Capone) with POOH (bear) all reversed [turning up]
17 Thunderous god descending on knight, old character (5)
THORNTHOR (Thunderous god) on N (knight – chess notation)

THORN (Þ) was a letter in Old English, which sounded like the th sound (as in thick) in Modern English. With the arrival of movable type printing, which used the Latin alphabet, the substitution of y for Þ became ubiquitous, leading to the common “ye“, as in ‘Ye Olde Booke Shoppe’.

18 Fellows had briefly to be put right (4)
MENDMEN (Fellows) ‘D (had briefly i.e. contract ‘had’)
21 Point made by little Dorothy (3)
DOT – A diminutive [little] of Dorothy is DOT

99 comments on “Times Quick Cryptic No 2664 by Izetti”

  1. Sneakily checked that PERADVENTURE was a word, otherwise took me a while but all seemed fair enough. Couldn’t parse SENATE (NHO sen) or SAILING (totally forgot about bob/shilling, although, in my defence, I’m only just old enough 😁). Surprised to see ‘had briefly’ meant ‘d’ but had to be. Liked GALLEON and TRIANGLES. Many thanks Mike.

  2. 18:29 here, not so bad for an Izetti. Didn’t parse LABS properly, my LOI. Took me a good while to unsee the nonsensical SUGAR COAT for 1ac.

    Thanks to Izetti and Mike.

  3. Typically precise Izetti again encourages ‘trust the cryptic’. Was not aware of this use of Octave; and only found the DNK Fondu by finally seeing the anagram after 3 checkers… the bottom half went in first and then the top provided some hard slog, and trust, to get there.
    FOI 6a Foe
    LOI 10a Peradventure
    COD 12d Sailing – old enough to be responsible for converting a 24/7 factory of 2800 souls on D-Day….where being a non-event was a back-handed compliment.

  4. DNF

    All done and dusted in 16 but NHO PERADVENTURE and the word play didn’t help. Got the adventure bit but no chance of getting PER as a synonym for A.

  5. A slightly dissatisfying performance (18 mins), as I took 3 mins to find the courage to add PER to ADVENTURE. Idiot Gary – what else could it be?

    A few NHOs and some silly hold-ups, but it’s a day out of the SCC, so I’m not complaining.

    Thanks for the educational blog Mike 👍

  6. 22:45 and late lunch in the Club is pretty good today! Everyone has said it all, my experience was the same as most: many unknowns so precisely clued that they eventually went in after some head-scratching – LAGER LAD, SAILING (DNK “old bob”), OCTAVE (in the religious sense), HOOPLA (in the fair game sense), FONDU.

    Great blog today Mike, and many thanks to Izetti for the pleasant workout.

  7. 4:50. Solved a day late as I was out all day yesterday in the Suffolk sunshine walking from Aldeburgh to Stratford St. Andrew via Snape Maltings. Typical Izetti, I thought with a bit of stretchy vocabulary. DNK the ballet jargon but the wordplay and checkers left no doubt. Thanks Izetti and Mike.

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