Times Quick Cryptic 1170 by Orpheus

Solving time: 11 minutes.  I nearly achieved my target 10 minutes but lost time at the end as I had inadvertently spelt 16ac with EI instead of IE and this delayed solving 15dn as my last one in. There’s quite a lot of slang and colloquialism today which may cause problems for those not familiar with it all.

As usual definitions are underlined in bold italics, {deletions and substitutions are in curly brackets} and [anagrinds, containment, reversal and other indicators in square ones]

Across
1 Weatherproof coat a nosy person talked of? (5)
PARKA – Sounds like [talked of] “parker” (nosy person). I tried to trace the origin of the expression ‘Nosy Parker’ but there’s nothing approaching a definitive answer available. If you’re interested in knowing more, try Googling it and take your pick.
8 Dock worker rode out with street girl (9)
STEVEDORE – ST (street), EVE (girl), anagram [out] of RODE. Stevedores load and unload cargo.
9 Excuse a former politician invented originally (5)
ALIBI – A, LIB (former politician – Liberal), I{nvented} [originally]. In the UK and in terms of established political parties, Libs are currently Lib-Dems and I assume that’s why we have ‘former’ in the clue, however the abbreviation is still valid so the qualification wasn’t really needed.
10 Work in pub mostly, accepting Oscar’s point of view (7)
OPINION – OP (work), IN, IN{n} (pub) [mostly] containing O (Oscar – NATO alphabet). Easy to biff with a checker or two in place but the wordplay is a bit tricky to unravel.
11 Debt-collector gone mad in underground cell (7)
DUNGEON – DUN (debt-collector), anagram [mad] of GONE. I didn’t know the debt-collector but the answer came readily to mind.
12 Percussionist beginning to drink spirit by sea in Boulogne? (7)
DRUMMER – D{rink] [beginning], RUM (spirit), MER (sea in Boulogne – the French word for ‘sea’)
16 Verbal greeting to girl revealing sanitary practices? (7)
HYGIENE – HY + GIENE sounds like [verbal] “Hi!” (greeting) + “Jean” (girl)
17 Sale involving union leader in suit (7)
AUCTION – U{nion} [leader] contained by [in] ACTION (suit – at law)
20 Main sentence describing guillemot, for example (7)
SEABIRD – SEA (main), BIRD (sentence – slang for a term of imprisonment)
22 Secondary thoroughfare of some width (5)
BROAD – B-ROAD (secondary thoroughfare). A-roads, B-roads and motorways are the main components of the UK road system.
23 Eg Asian editor initially more rigid about article (9)
EASTERNER – E{ditor} [initially] + STERNER (more rigid), containing [about] A (article)
24 Person summing up / poisonous snake (5)
ADDER – Two meanings
Down
1 Forked out to obtain large tartan cloth (5)
PLAID – PAID (forked out – another colloquialism) containing [to obtain} L (large)
2 Reportedly bucketing down on the throne? (8)
REIGNING – Sounds like [reportedly] “raining” (bucketing down – and another)
3 A team apart! (5)
ASIDE – A, SIDE (team)
4 Back university’s later presentation of bill (6,7)
SECOND READING – SECOND (back), READING (university). This is one of the stages in the enactment of a new law which at this point is called a ‘bill’. After the final stage known as ‘the Royal Assent’ the bill becomes an Act of Parliament.
5 Followers carrying English money in French street (7)
RETINUE – E (English) + TIN (money), contained by [in] RUE (French street)
6 Lightweight hat — best on island (4)
TOPI – TOP (best), I (island). As worn by Englishmen of colonial persuasion who went out in the midday sun in tropical climes along with mad dogs.
7 Study Pope’s last lines outside a priest’s office (7)
DEANERY – DEN (study) + {Pop}E [last] + RY  (lines – railway), containing [outside] A
13 Flower girl’s stated recipe for getting rich? (8)
MARIGOLD – Sounds like [stated] “marry gold” (recipe for getting rich?)
14 City’s way to divide fare in old-time feast (7)
CHESTER – ST (way – street) contained by [to divide] CHEER (fare in old-time feast). Not a meaning of ‘cheer’ I was aware of until recently when it came up elsewhere.
15 Assume identity of quality paper without delay (7)
BETIMES – BE (assume identity of),  TIMES (quality paper). A somewhat old-fashioned word that’s little used these days.
18 Government emergency committee’s firm supporter? (5)
COBRA – CO (firm), BRA (supporter). Cabinet Office Briefing Room A: the civil contingencies committee that leads the UK’s responses to crises such as terrorist attacks and epidemics. Sadly news reports of this committee’s activities have become all too frequent. 
19 In London, a director’s lowest point (5)
NADIR – Hidden [in] {Londo}N A DIR{rector}
21 Part of church left abandoned by mistake (4)
APSE – {l}APSE (mistake) [left abandoned]

30 comments on “Times Quick Cryptic 1170 by Orpheus”

  1. I can imagine some non-UK solvers may be at a disadvantage, with e.g. COBRA, ‘bird’, B-ROAD. It just now occurred to me to ask, is a PARKA weatherproof? Once again, I missed a hidden, simply biffing NADIR from the defintion, if that isn’t tautological. I liked SEABIRD, but then I knew BIRD. LOI BETIMES. 5:00.
    1. I once went fishing on a Hebridean island wearing a Parka. I can confirm that it wasn’t waterproof. I was soaked to the skin! Mind you, the rain was practically horizontal!

      Edited at 2018-09-03 10:37 am (UTC)

  2. On a course, got all except betimes in about 15 mins. Using a phone which I don’t like.

    COD seabird.

  3. Held up only by initially thinking 4d started with BEHIND, but OPINION set me right on that. BETIMES LOI – a word I think I’ve seen only once before… in a crossword. I liked COBRA but my COD goes to DRUMMER. 6:16.
    Tip: Today’s 15×15 is a good one for QCers to try.
    1. Excellent tip!! Thanks. Completed in 45 minutes – first ever, with minimal help with Andromeda.
      John George
  4. Loved B-ROAD, very neat. Thanks Orpheus.

    Not sure of the Kevometer reading because too many interruptions. Probably between two and three.

    BETIMES is a solid Shakespearean word (eg Sir Toby Belch – “To be up after midnight and to go to bed then, is early, so that to go to bed after midnight is to go to bed betimes.”) I remember Parkas from my youth as shapeless green anoraks with fur-trimmed hoods; banned at school and therefore always had a faintly rebellious feel about them, to me.

    Thanks for the blog, Jack.

    Templar

  5. I thought this was extremely difficult today and limped in at 43 minutes. A few uncommon words – Topi, Stevedore, Betimes, and some complex clue structures in places. I hope the advice that the 15×15 is relatively straightforward today proves to be the case from my point of view.
    1. Yep, second that. Downright hard as i was out of tune with Orpheus although did learn some words.
      Dun for debt collector, bird for prison sentence and Tin for money. Parka didnt sound like parker to me and the Marigold clue was sinister.

      SRT

      1. Any previously unknown definition is worth remembering if possible, and we all forget them, but ‘tin’ for ‘money’ will come up over and again in cryptic crosswords so needs to go towards the top of the list
  6. DNF today… grrrrr! It was because of 15 down which, even with all the checkers in, I couldn’t see. I don’t mean to be churlish but I don’t think it means “without delay”. I think it means “earlier than is normal “. Anyway, I enjoyed the rest, especially 13 down which made me chuckle. Thanks, setter and blogger.
  7. I flew through this until I was left with 15d, and after a couple of minutes more had come up with BETIDES (BE and ID in Times Educational Supplement). Then I looked again at the definition and saw the obvious. 8:50. Thanks Orpheus and Jack.
  8. I struggled with this and needed two sittings to crack the SW corner. Not helped along the way by misspelling Stevedore (don’t ask) and having Second Hearing (ditto) for 4d. Betimes was my loi, and only then after an alphabet trawl. Probably the best part of 45 mins in total. Just not my day. Invariant
  9. Completed in just over 7 mins, fortunate to think of hygiene which gave me the SW corner. Loved the puzzle, but I hate the oft-used Bra=Supporter (not sure why, it just seems a bit icky). But as this seems to be used a lot in the main 15×15 then it’s fair for Orpheus to use it. Improvers should try today’s main puzzle as it is very accessible. Nice blog and thanks setter
  10. First, the good news: solving the QC five days a week has got me to a point where I can sometimes solve the weekend puzzles. I finished Saturday’s and Sunday’s this weekend. Practice is the key I think.
    Today’s QC seemed easy at first but there were quite a few clues which I would not have got as a beginner (e.g. Seabird and Topi).After 20 minutes,my usual time, I needed two: 14d and 15d. Despite spending three days last week near Chester playing golf, 14d was slow to come. I then spent ages on 15d and decided to let the cryptic lead me; that gave me Betimes, a word I did not know. Very good testing QC I thought. David
  11. I finished in 25 minutes, 5 under my target so I was surprised to see some of the posts in the blog. Some of my parsing at the time was wrong, but it worked.
    The only reference I can find for ‘Dun’ is Dun and Bradshaw, a firm of debt collectors.
    Incidently, for the last few days I’ve had to log on to get into the puzzles on my phone every time, even though I dont have to for the news. Has anyone else found this?
    Brian

    Edited at 2018-09-03 03:33 pm (UTC)

  12. I got very held up at the end with 14 and 15d. 15 was a new word for me and I didn’t help myself by looking at the wrong end of the clue for the definition. I got there in the end and completed the puzzle in 19.24. Particularly enjoyed SEABIRD and MARIGOLD.
  13. This was less straightforward than today’s big brother, and much to my embarrassment I can’t spell DEANERY even with the wordplay to help. Some of us don’t believe READING and university are totally synonymous: just cheerful snobbery, I suppose, but since there are around 130 to choose from in the UK alone, not all of them will necessarily signal their status by their name.
  14. Hard to get started on a read-through but 6d and18d/24a gave the first footholds. 14d as LOI was a tease. No new words today but some entertaining clues. Will try the 15×15 to see if it’s more penetrable!
  15. Deanery a priest’s office? Surely in the CofE it’s an ecclesiastical administrative area?
    1. deanery noun. LME.
      [ORIGIN from dean noun¹ + -ery, after Anglo-Norman denrie.]

      1 The position or office of a dean. LME.

      2 The group of parishes presided over by a rural dean. Formerly also, the jurisdiction of a dean. LME.

      3 The official residence of a dean. L16.

      [Shorter Oxford English Dictionary]

  16. DNF for me today 6/7D and 10A which I guessed and couldn’t parse, having fouled up 6D. Would some kind soul indicate why work=OP? Thanks.

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