Times Cryptic No 28865 — Laughably bad

48:28. Laughably off the wavelength here. Nearly gave up but I had nothing better to do than to pound my brain against these clues until I got every last letter!

Across
1 More than one outdoor market carries beers hiding short volume (3-4,5)
CAR-BOOT SALES – CARTS (carries) ALES (beers) around (hiding) almost all of (short) BOOK (volume)

Not knowing the definition here, it took me ages to see BOOK = ‘volume’. Though I am American, of course I do know what a ‘boot’ is — but the word doesn’t come readily to mind when I’m looking for synonyms.

I dithered for a long time over this clue because I was also unconvinced by the crossing CHANCEL.

8 Means of payment most recently in Indian currency, not English (7)
PLASTIC – LAST (most recently) in PICE (Indian currency) without (not) E (English)

Did not know PICE, but PLASTIC was easy enough to see when I had crossing letters.

9 Top bid — never the bottom (2-5)
NO-TRUMP – NOT RUMP (never the bottom)

Took me awhile to see (I don’t play bridge), but this was a cute clue.

11 Frame horse by a male illustrator (7)
RACKHAM – RACK (frame) H (horse) + (by) A M (male)

Illustrator Arthur Rackham was well-known for his many illustrations.

12 Stomach time when Henry’s missing in prison (7)
COURAGE – HOUR (time) without (when …’s missing) H (Henry) in CAGE (prison)

This took me ages to see, for no good reason.

13 Guide map includes capital of India (5)
PILOT – PLOT (map) around (includes) first letter (capital) of INDIA
14 Spread dissent about record lack of enthusiasm (9)
TEPIDNESS – anagram of (spread) DISSENT around (about) EP (record)
16 Unusual tip re corn: grow in alternating rows (9)
INTERCROP – anagram of (unusual) TIP RE CORN

Took me a very long time to find this anagram, again for no good reason.

19 Time to abandon beer, one included with the champers? (5)
BITER – T (time) removed from (to abandon) BITTER (beer)
21 Composer penning key scores (7)
TALLIES – TALLIS (composer) around (penning) E (key)
23 Nut by net’s opposite rivet (7)
ENGROSS – EN (nut) + (by) GROSS (net’s opposite)

It’s probably not true, but I’ve always understood an EN to be a printer’s length the width of an ‘n’, just as EM is the width of an ‘m’. ‘Nut’ is a synonym for EN, as I’ve now learned.

I grumble a bit at the characterization of GROSS as being ‘net’s opposite’. A counterpart or related concept, sure, but opposite?

On account of these reservations I tried to make EGG+LOSS work for awhile, but it just isn’t a word.

24 Stone for engagement day no girl’s sent back (7)
DIAMOND – D (day) NO MAID (girl) reversed (‘s sent back)
25 Bird returning in autumn, a lot roosting (7)
ORTOLAN – hidden reversed in (returning in) AUTUMN A LOT ROOSTING
26 During awful siege appeal follows emperor’s liberal acts (12)
GENEROSITIES – IT ([sex] appeal) after (follows) NERO’S (emperor’s) in (during) anagram of (awful) SIEGE
Down
1 Where one might sing anthem[’s] opening line (7)
CHANCEL – CHANCE (opening) L (line)

As in, “I saw a chance/opening/opportunity to accomplish XYZ.”.

I suspected CHANCEL early on, but kept doubting myself because of the misleading wordplay suggested by ‘anthem’s opening’.

2 Baker perhaps chasing rodent: something toothy (7)
RATCHET – CHET (Baker perhaps) after (chasing) RAT (rodent)

This was my first in: I immediately thought of Chet Baker and slammed in the answer, thinking I’d whiz through this puzzle. It was not to be!

3 Working, approach Emergency Room about temperature measurement device (9)
ONCOMETER – ON (working) COME (approach) + ER (Emergency Room) around (about) T (temperature)
4 Fizzy drink tons mostly kept ready (5)
TONIC – T (tons) almost all of (mostly) ON ICE (kept ready)

Wanted this to be FANTA and couldn’t see past that.

5 Overwhelm a small Scots settlement with 500 (7)
ASTOUND – A S (small) TOUN (Scots settlement) + (with) D (500)
6 Train [from] east expected outside Bombay, perhaps (7)
EDUCATE – E (east) DUE (expected) around (outside) CAT (Bombay, perhaps)

I confess to not knowing the Bombay cat, and originally tried EDUGINE.

7 Took a quiet stay — I settled into valued surroundings (12)
APPROPRIATED – A P (quiet) PROP (stay) + I in (settled into … surroundings) RATED (valued)
10 All the papers united over revolting process of coercion (12)
PRESSURISING – PRESS (all the papers) U (united) + (over) RISING (revolting)
15 Go for a revolutionary number one sausage (9)
PEPPERONI – PEP (go) PER (for a) + reversal of (revolutionary) NO (number) + I (one)
17 Land for cultivation I get all prepared (7)
TILLAGE – I GET ALL anagrammed (prepared)
18 Piece of ginger? Initially rare one unknown among roots? (7)
RHIZOME – first letter of (initially) R + I (one) Z (unknown) in (among) HOME (roots?)

RHIZOME is an underground stem producing roots, like ginger, say.

19 Early car company[’s] enthusiasm at rising appeal (7)
BUGATTI – BUG (enthusiasm) AT + reversal of (rising) IT ([sex] appeal)

If you have the bug for something, you have enthusiasm for it.

20 Bard’s lover Romeo, one mixing with louts (7)
TROILUS – R (Romeo) I (one) anagrammed (mixing) with LOUTS

Troilus and Cressida, never read it.

22 Likely loner unpaired since turning up (5)
SADDO – ODD (unpaired) AS (since) reversed (turning up)

65 comments on “Times Cryptic No 28865 — Laughably bad”

  1. Long struggle with this and I finished in 67 minutes, with CHANCEL unparsed. Simpler than I was making it, with ‘opening’ an insertion indicator. ONCOMETER a mystery which eventually I reluctantly entered: ‘come’ doesn’t mean ‘approach’ —it’s ‘come to’ or ‘come near’, as Collins confirms. To me this is no better than the ‘ganging’ which so many people are happy with in 10dn, which surely doesn’t = ‘revolting’. ‘net’s opposite’ being ‘gross’ reminds me of William Brown’s attempt at a crossword clue: ‘opposite of cat’ for ‘dog’.

  2. 11:19. I started very slowly on this but picked up speed steadily.
    I knew of Arthur RACKHAM because we had at least one book illustrated by him when I was a kid. I’ve no idea what it/they was/were though.
    I don’t remember seeing the Bombay cat before, or an ONCOMETER. TOUN is rather obscure.

  3. A bit of a struggle which started off relatively well but went rapidly downhill. I remembered RHIZOME, but needed TALLIES to spell it correctly. Most of the pain came in the NW corner, where that well known 19th Century woodcarver from Suffolk, Henry RINGHAM, seemed to corroberate my biffed CHANNEL(line) at 1d. I wasn’t convinced, however and suddenly thought of CHANCEL for place to sing and RACKHAM then seemed a better option for 11a. Still failed to parse CHANCEL until I read the blog. Probably 10 minutes spent on the last 4 in that corner. 33:57. Thanks setter and Jeremy.

  4. I found just enough crossers from Friday-ordinary-difficulty-level answers to bull my way through the more unusual words or definitions. But the bulling went more easily after I’d put down for the evening and had two stiff morning coffees (ala Denise T) before completing. Thx, +J

  5. It’s not often that I come anywhere near competing with the bloggers and regular posters. I am usually over an hour or DNF.
    But today I achieved my aim of finishing in the time it took me to drink a pint of ale.
    My only NHO was oncometer but parsing was straightforward.
    Thank you setter, blogger and posters.

  6. 53’55”
    Never nearer.

    Yo-yoing between the balcony -very nippy when the sun vanished- and study didn’t help, so I was relieved to finish in under an hour with only Bombay, nut and Rackham tinkling, rather than ringing, bells. I believe toun wanders south occasionally; a friend in Newcastle often refers to his neck of the woods as ‘the toun’.
    A knotty Friday nut to crack; thank you setter and Jeremy.

  7. I eventually finished in 52.25 with my LOIs CHANCEL followed by RACKHAM. I fully expected them to be wrong, having thought that the chancel link to where a choir might be situated was a bit tenuous; even though many moons ago that was where I was located as a chorister when singing anthems! I very nearly gave up on those final two, but am now glad I persevered.

  8. Very slow to start and ground through it clue by clue. FOI TONIC, taking the time to parse it and deciding as a result that I was in for a long haul. LOI PLASTIC, from the definition – NHO pice, nor ONCOMETER or INTERCROP, for that matter. I also entered PRESSGANGING, which held me up until I realised 23a had to be ENGROSS. The NW held out the longest, with all blank except RACKHAM and ONCOMETER, but finally APPROPRIATED opened up a window to carry on through. A good Friday challenge – as usual, it’s encouraging to find many with similar experiences.

  9. 34 minutes for me, which was quicker than the average Friday. Had the same problems as others in recognising unfamiliar words such as INTERCROP and ONCOMETER, but the clueing left little option. NHO PICE or BOMBAY CAT, and I was also PRESSGANGING until some surrounding answers convinced me otherwise. I was never that keen on colloquialisms like SADDO, but perhaps I should get out more. An engaging struggle.
    FOI – ORTOLAN
    LOI – BITER
    COD – NO-TRUMP
    Thanks to jeremy and other contributors.

  10. Well there’s perseverance and there’s banging your head against a brick wall. I congratulate Jeremy on his endurance but I came here with four empty spaces. I’d never heard of Chet Baker and I’m still not sure why I should have done, nor, like Jeremy, could I bring myself to put in CHANCEL which might have helped, would never have thought of RACK for frame, so the top left remained a wasteland. Feeling a bit grumpy.

  11. 12:29. Very slow through the last few, but a really good puzzle for trusting wordplay, got ONCOMETER, RHIZOME, RACKHAM directly from wordplay, and it was very clear in sorting out the words I thought could work but I couldn’t quite associate them with the definition like CHANCEL, PRESSURISING and GENEROSITIES. Excellent puzzle!

  12. 25.22

    RHIZOME submitted with crossed fingers. Even after getting CAR and thinking ALES it still took way too long to see 1ac. And APPREHENDED failed to fit despite trying a few times. But despite that v happy with my effort after a bunch of sluggish times recently

    Thanks Jeremy (always appreciated when a blogger struggles a bit but comes with a very readable piece) and setter

  13. Too tough for me! ( still don’t really understand certain clues : CHANCEL? COURAGE? BITER? ENGROSS?)
    Too hurried to make “a good fist of it” ( some good clue-fodder there…?)

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