Times Cryptic Jumbo 1490 – 3rd April 2021. At sea in a sieve

Hello all.  Penfold has already posted the blog for Easter Monday’s 1491, so I must fill in the gap left by the previous Saturday’s Jumbo.  Apologies for jumbling the jumbo sequence.

This one kept me amused a tad longer than usual, just over the hour, with a hunt needed at the end for the first letter of MULETEER which just didn’t occur to me.  So I ended appropriately enough with a “μ”!

Two or three clues prompt me to take the opportunity to ask you good solvers of the Times about something, namely definitions along the lines of “that does x” to define “that which does x”.  Or perhaps it’s “that does x” in the sense of “this does x” which might be a better reading.  The example here is the definition of 19a: “that ruins crops”.  See also 36a’s “that are helpful” and perhaps “could be a bad sign” in 29a.

I should make clear that this kind of thing clearly is ok – indeed, one of the most respected setters around, and one of my own favourites, frequently does it.  It’s just it does niggle very slightly with me still, and I wanted to see what others think – but I’m asking a question rather than having a moan.  Hopefully you will explain to me why definitions like these are absolutely fine and banish that niggle evermore.

I’ve long since lost the habit of marking favourites (formed back when I used to be chatty and (R)AMBLE on below the line), and in a Jumbo there are just so many clues to choose from.  There is an obvious option for a feline in 3d: JEOPARDY, and several of the surrounding down clues also appeal, particularly 6d, COCK.  I’m a sucker (not 45d) for a reverse clue so I might also pick 31d, BACKDOOR, though that was a sneaky one indeed.  All good fun indeed.  Thanks Setter!

Definitions are underlined in the clues below.  In the explanations, quoted indicators are in italics, explicit [deletions] are in square brackets, and I’ve capitalised and emboldened letters which appear in the ANSWER.  Link words are generally omitted for clarity.

Across
1 Indecent girl’s legwear (4,5)
BLUE JEANS BLUE (indecent) + JEANS (girl’s)
6 Racing once condemned harmful substance (10)
CARCINOGEN RACING ONCE anagrammed (condemned)
12 Everyone, say, runs over briskly (7)
ALLEGRO ALL (everyone) + EG (say) + R (runs) + O (over)
13 Lively old punk tours Virginia (9)
VIVACIOUS VICIOUS (old punk, Sid Vicious) goes around (tours) VA (Virginia)
14 Officer in charge evincing problem with wind (5)
COLIC COL (officer) + IC (in charge)
16 Midshipman Easy’s job? (5,7)
PLAIN SAILING — A whimsical definition, the surface referring to Mr Midshipman Easy
17 Court order one in residence to be moved (6,4)
DECREE NISI I (one) in an anagram of (… to be moved) RESIDENCE
19 State vehicle that ruins crops (8,6)
COLORADO BEETLE COLORADO (state) + BEETLE (vehicle, the VW Beetle)
22 New troops joining the navy in higher latitudes (8)
NORTHERN N (new) + OR (troops) + THE + RN (navy).  I wasted some time trying to make this start with an anagram of TROOPS – oops!
24 Metal, iodine and copper blocking miners (6)
INDIUM I (iodine) and DI (copper) inside (blocking) NUM (miners)
25 Starts with each child’s unrestricted period for game (4,6)
OPEN SEASON OPENS (starts) + EA (each) + SON (child)
26 Walk — with or without runs? (5)
AMBLE — The answer means “walk” – with or without prepending with R (runs)
29 Ladies missing whiskey could be a bad sign (4)
OMEN — [w]OMEN (ladies) without (missing) W (whiskey).  I thought the “could be” might be a link between wordplay and definition, but of course omens could be good, so I have underlined it
30 Fortunate having sanction limiting old bomb (8)
ENVIABLE ENABLE (sanction) around (limiting) VI (V1, old bomb)
32 Ruler quit, ignoring British excise (9)
ERADICATE ER (ruler) + A[b]DICATE without (ignoring) B (British)
34 Dopey old men disheartened in IoW waters (9)
SOMNOLENT O (old) and MeN without the middle letter (disheartened) in SOLENT (IoW waters)
35 Regularly call on pretty woman to restrain quiet fool (8)
CLODPOLL — Alternate letters of (regularly) CaLl On, then DOLL (pretty woman) around (to restrain) P (quiet)
36 Like hoarding papers that are helpful (4)
AIDS AS (like) containing (hoarding) ID (papers)
39 US cheat returns iron and silver engraved with name (5)
GANEF — The answer is reversed in (returns) FE (iron) and AG (silver) containing (engraved with) N (name).  I’d never heard of this, so had to trust to checkers and wordplay
40 Free love in Little Rock (10)
PERIDOTITE RID (free) and O (love) in PETITE (little)
42 Dance when tiddly, leaving tango to the end (6)
MINUET MINUTE (tiddly) with T (tango) moved to the end
44 Make ugly girl initially hug primate (8)
MISSHAPE MISS (girl) + the first letter of (initially) Hug + APE (primate)
46 Fiddling finance firm pocketing a grand (6,8)
MONKEY BUSINESS MONEY (finance) + BUSINESS (firm) containing (pocketing) K (a grand)
48 Boulders and tree reduced seafood (4,6)
ROCK SALMON ROCKS (boulders) and ALMONd (tree) without the last letter (reduced)
49 Letters, awfully cagey and tense about reserves (6,6)
ESTATE AGENCY — An anagram of (awfully) CAGEY and TENSE around (about) TA (reserves)
53 Ruin ground packed with phosphorous (5)
SPOIL SOIL (ground) containing (packed with) P (phosphorous)
54 Trombonist’s eatery in the Open (3,6)
TEA GARDEN — Without the space we have an American jazz trombonistI had to rely on the outdoor eatery to fill the gaps, but am happy to have filled one of the many gaps in my GK
55 Berliner’s one to consume ultimate protein (7)
ELASTIN EIN (Berliner’s one) around (to consume) LAST (ultimate)
56 Angry force stripped of uniform put on “different” clothes? (5-5)
CROSS-DRESS CROSS (angry) + D[u]RESS (force) without U (stripped of uniform)
57 Sell coal off Republican imported, using this instead? (5,4)
SOLAR CELL — An anagram of (… off) SELL COAL with R (Republican) inserted (imported)
Down
1 Light timber a hunk hauled up (5)
BALSA A and SLAB (hunk) reversed (hauled up)
2 Injured unsung heroes, wings clipped, giving little away (10)
UNGENEROUS — An anagram of (injured) UNSUNG with hEROEs minus its outer letters (wings clipped)
3 Risk heading off big cat in jungly banks (8)
JEOPARDY — Without the first letter (heading off), [l]EOPARD (big cat) in the outer letters (banks) of JunglY
4 Number 5 in trouble? Smith beats it (5)
ANVIL N (number) and V (five) in AIL (trouble)
5 A number observed fencing incident (9)
SEVENTEEN SEEN (observed) around (fencing) EVENT (incident)
6 Get ready to fire farmyard boss? (4)
COCK — Two definitions
7 Make a fresh start, dealing with old writer (6)
REOPEN RE (dealing with, concerning) + O (old) + PEN (writer)
8 Mare perhaps that can be covered outside? Impossible (14)
INSURMOUNTABLE MOUNT (mare perhaps), with INSURABLE (that can be covered) surrounding it (outside)
9 Part of theatre box found in odd Scottish mine (9,3)
ORCHESTRA PIT CHEST (box) found in ORRA (odd, Scottish) + PIT (mine)
10 Fancy avoiding start that’s slippery (3-4)
EEL-LIKE — fEEL LIKE (fancy) without the first letter (avoiding start)
11 Mafia boss welcomes composer briefly for a drink (10)
CAPPUCCINO CAPO (Mafia boss) contains (welcomes) PUCCINi without the last letter (briefly)
15 Tell niece about regular customers (9)
CLIENTELE TELL NIECE anagrammed (about)
18 Hyde for one has to change, say, before first of outings (5,3)
ALTER EGO ALTER (to change) and EG (say) before the first letter of Outings
20 Romeo expires visiting city worker (6,3)
LADIES MAN DIES (expires) inside (visiting) LA (city) and MAN (worker)
21 Section of Church Times about a mad priest, close to arrest (10)
BAPTISTERY BY (times) around (about) A, an anagram of (mad) PRIEST and the last letter of (close to) arresTI was a bit surprised by the second E, but that’s the primary spelling given by the dictionaries.  Lovely surface, anyway!
23 Note old way into very big Yankee’s joint exercises? (10)
OSTEOPATHY TE (note), O (old) and PATH (way) are inserted into OS (very big) plus Y (Yankee)
27 Ecstasy? Consume it in Cornish resort (9)
BEATITUDE EAT (consume) and IT in BUDE (Cornish resort)
28 With few folk around, waved to welcome HM with dad (14)
UNDERPOPULATED UNDULATED (waved) containing (to welcome) ER (HM) and POP (dad)
31 Sneaky cryptic clue for cross? (8)
BACKDOOR — The instruction to BACK ROOD could be a cryptic clue for CROSS
33 Run up with less crude appreciative noises (4-8)
WOLF-WHISTLES FLOW (run) reversed (up) + an anagram of (… crude) WITH LESS
34 Epic tales about additional US chiefs (9)
SAGAMORES SAGAS (epic tales) around (about) MORE (additional)
37 Rewarding school test is quick (there’s no Latin at first) (10)
SATISFYING SAT (school test) + IS + F[l]YING (quick) without L (there’s no Latin at first)
38 Fifty-four at home pledge to protect with adequate pay (6,4)
LIVING WAGE L (fifty) + IV (four) + IN (at home) + GAGE (pledge) around (to protect) W (with).  Never heard of gage as a pledge, but it’s archaic so I don’t feel too bad!
41 Study teams — and support one of them? (4,5)
TAKE SIDES TAKE (study) + SIDES (teams)
43 Train driver, old character, given licence at any time (8)
MULETEER MU (old character) LET (licence) + EER (at any time).  Is mu an old character?  It’s old in the sense of having been around a long time, I suppose, but the “old” threw me off the scent well and truly.  Or perhaps the definition is “train driver, old”?
45 Help one who’s easily taken in by the sound of it (7)
SUCCOUR — SUCKER (one who’s easily taken in), homophone (by the sound of it)
47 Very old yacht’s first mature trip (6)
VOYAGE V (very) +O (old) + Yacht’s first letter + AGE (mature)
50 Cancel plant overlooking area (5)
ANNUL ANNU[a]L (plant) without (overlooking) A (area)
51 Old province where charlatan, wanting tea, turns up (5)
NATAL — [char]LATAN without (wanting) CHAR (tea) is reversed (turns up)
52 Main resident‘s instrument (4)
BASS — We finish with a double definition

9 comments on “Times Cryptic Jumbo 1490 – 3rd April 2021. At sea in a sieve”

  1. A bit of a stiffer challenge, taking 44 minutes and small change.
    In the end, I just entered TEA GARDEN and hoped it somehow meant trombonist: I am educated.
    The word GANEF is useful: there are loads of ways of spelling it, none of them, as far as I can see, in Chambers.
    It seems there is more than one way to spell BAPTISTRY too, which held me up a while.

    Edited at 2021-04-17 09:16 am (UTC)

    1. Ganef is a Yiddish word with a variety of spellings.
      (Sorry my name appears in Hebrew! I have been trying to change it)
      1. Yiddish is an inexhaustible well of words that should be made available to everyone. Expressive and uncannily accurate ways to describe all manner of people.
  2. A steady solve with one or two unknowns but they were clued helpfully so didn’t give me grief. It was fortunate that PERIDOT came up very recently (possibly in a puzzle I blogged) so it wasn’t much of stretch to add -ITE for a smaller version.

    I couldn’t see study = take, nor after reading the excellent blog, but it has just occurred to me that one ‘takes’ subjects at school.

    On the question of ‘that’, I find it’s less of trial if one reads it as ‘that which’.

    Edited at 2021-04-17 09:17 am (UTC)

  3. Liked this one. A steady solve with several good clues.
    Re 19ac Kitty, the way I look at it is that if you replace “vehicle” with “beetle,” as we are meant to do, then the wording makes perfect sense. Anyway I always like to give setters as much leeway as possible. Not easy, thinking up new clues all day
  4. I had a ! at TAKE (sides), but it seems fine now. GANEF an old friend. DNK tiddly, ORRA. COD PERIDOTITE (LOI). No problem with COLORADO BEETLE, which I fortunately remembered from a previous cryptic. I’ve never thought about the ‘that…’ definition, but it seems to me that if you take THAT as a demonstrative (not ‘that which’ but just ‘that’–‘That is what I want’), there’s no problem, if there was a problem.
  5. 1:44:55. A good one. Hard work but doable. A few unknowns including INDIUM, GANEF, PERIDOTITE and SAGAMORES but they were helpfully clued. I put ORCHESTRA PIT in without realising it contained the unknown ORRA. I struggled for ages to see EEL-LIKE, truly slippery. I confidently wrote APPS in for 36ac (AS containing PP=papers?) which got converted to LOI AIDS when POI BEATITUDE appeared. Lots to like including BLUE JEANS, VIVACIOUS and even the simple MINUET where you get thrown by pronunciation. COD to ERADICATE for being so baffling when it was really so straightforward. Thank you Kitty for the great blog.
  6. I don’t usually comment on the weekend crossies, though I do do them. I enjoyed this one though albeit with a few DNK’s. Re your discussion Kitty, my thoughts are that probably the surface is the main rule. That is, if you changed THAT to THIS at 9ac, the surface would not read so well. I don’t have a problem with that. Thanks for your blog.
  7. Many thanks to those of you who’ve commented. Like Jerry, I like to give setters as much leeway as possible, so if there’s an explanation which makes sense I will always take it. But I do like to have everything straight in my own head, and it’s always good to get different perspectives.

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