Times Crossword 24585

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I was interrupted twice while doing this one so can’t give an exact time, but I would guess it took 15-20 minutes. The SE corner went in at lightning speed, the NE and SW went in at a steady rate, but I made very heavy weather of the NW corner, 9A, 3D and 14A being the culprits. None of these was really all that difficult – just couldn’t seem to get my mind going along the right tracks.
 

 

Across
1
  OBERON (anagram of Borneo) – King of the fairies in A Midsummer Night’s Dream.
5
  PA(DD)LING – “paling” here being wooden fencing.
9
  USEFULLY – if you use something (e.g. a resource) fully you exhaust it. Took me a while to see this even with the S in place and L-Y at the end.
10
  NUB,BIN – “roll over ” is BUN, reversed, and “discard” a verb meaning to throw away. I never really knew what a nubbin was until now; it’s a small lump or a small stunted ear of corn. Bound to come in useful one day.
11
  CELLOPHANE – was led astray trying to figure out the wordplay by the fact that Americans call mobile phones cell phones. “Mobile” is actually an anagram indicator, and the wordplay is (phone call)* around E (Monroe’s last).
13
  T,ASK = the T is “this”, started.
14
  PIU,S – this stayed blank almost till the end. I really wanted it to be LISP, but couldn’t begin to justify the definition. I finally got to the answer in a roundabout way – the last letter of 3D (the only other unsolved clue) might be S if the definition was “draws” – this hypothesis gave me _I_S, at which point it dawned on me to try Pope names, and that was that. “Più” is the word for “more” in a musical score, and S is the South Pole.
18
  A,FRI(CA ST)AR = CAST=throw, inside A FRIAR. The Africa Star was a medal awarded in WW2.
20
  CITE, sounding like “sight”.
21
  UTAH. After a brief diversion trying to find a way to include MIN or UTE, I realised that these were the second letters of the 2nd-5th words of the clue.
25
  CRIME,A – “war zone” feels like a modern term so didn’t think of this straight away.
26
  MOUSS,AKA – MOUSS(e) is the unfinished dessert, and AKA = “also known as”.
28
  GOINGS-ON – SON=child, with GOING (departure) before it.
29
  END,URE – the URE is an enduringly popular river amongst crossword setters.
 
Down
2
  B(AS, -R)ELIEF (a technique in sculpting). AS=like, R=cobbler’s last, all inside BELIEF (trust). Got this from the 3-6, though I had only the vaguest idea what it actually was.
3
  RAF,FLES – Douglas Bader‘s outfit is the RAF, followed by FLIES (is operational) without the I (“no one” is an instruction to remove it). This was my last clue solved – I was hopelessly blind to the fairly obvious RAF, distracted, as so often, by thoughts of prosthetic legs.
4
  NIL(e) – another popular river turns up here.
5
  PHYLA – very cunning, this, for the kingdom in question is the animal kingdom. The answer is neatly hidden in “geograPHY LAcking.
6
  DON,KEY,DERBY – DON=put on, DERBY=hat, and KEY=main – leaving the definition, which is just “event at fête , perhaps”.
7
  LOBSTER – take a mobster, and replace the M (start of meal) with an L (left).
8
  NAILS – double meaning.
12
  PAM,PAS, GRASS – the GRASS bit was obvious, and with only the M in the first word I was tempted by bamboo grass and mimosa grass (neither of which actually exist). The rest of the wordplay is PAM=female, PA’S= governor’s (governor in the sense of father).
16
  APT, abbreviation for “apartment” in small ads.
17
  N(IT P)ICKER – the first letters of “is tickled pink” inside NICKER, an uncommon slang term for a police officer (who nicks, or arrests, suspects).
19
  INHUMAN – “Bury, short” is INHUM(e), followed by AN (article).
20
  CORPS,ED – a ballet company is a corps de ballet, and ED are the outside (extreme) letters of “excited”. An actor is said to corpse on stage if they forget their lines or are laughing too much to speak them.
24
  AM(M)AN – at least I hope so, for Amman is the capital of Jordan, but I don’t really get the wordplay. M is obviously millions, is the rest a reference to the Burns poem “A Man’s A Man For A’ That“.? It’s the best I can do, but it doesn’t seem quite to work. I toyed with ADMEN for a while, but Aden isn’t the capital of anywhere….

31 comments on “Times Crossword 24585”

  1. Very similar eperience over here. 28 mins and stuck mostly in the top left. Surely … it can’t be an anagram of Borneo, I thought, and duly ignored it. Also wanted LisP at 14 which didn’t help either; not to mention not having heard of the Africa Star or nubbins. (Though I am due to have a zeugma removed before it develops into terminal syllepsis.) Have to agree that the Rabbi Burns ref is a bit loose: but it kind of works if heard interrogatively.
  2. 66 minutes and a satisfying way to take a break from the puzzle and the blog for a couple of weeks while holidaying in Spain. COD to TASK. Like Vinyl, found the NW the easiest – last two in were UTAH (from definition) and INHUMAN, which wasn’t very difficult, but I’d got rather stuck with ‘inter’. ‘Derby’ for hat stored away for future reference.

    Perhaps I might take this opportunity to say what fun it’s been since joining five months ago. Having dabbled with the Telegraph when I was a teenager and then done the Times in the local rag on and off (more off) for many years, this blog gave me the spur finally to realise my potential. As Barry once said, the corner is turned at that moment when you no longer print the puzzle out thinking “I’ll have a bash at this, but I won’t finish”, but with a confidence that you will finish it.

    1. Have a good holiday. Hurry back. Us mortals need company.
      Undemanding solve but a fair bit to check out (my preference being to check unknowns during the solve) ie NUBBIN, AFRICA STAR, PHYLA, that brad is a nail and piu is a score instruction. Also spent some time with Chambers to see if aan or aman was a Scots word, but guessed it must be from a poem. All gettable so perfectly fair, if unsatisfactory for this solver with limited GK.
      If CELL for mobile was deliberate rather than accidental then it gets my COD despite being easy to solve.
  3. Donkey Derby? Over an hour, but with a lot of interruptions, so no real time. Other problems: no wordplay understanding for : RAFFLES, PIUS, PAS as ‘governor’s’, and wordplay only, for CORPSED. Not an easy one, although there was a sprinkling of very easy clues throughout to give checking letters, i.e., CRIMEA. Never heard of the AFRICA STAR either. Happy to be all correct without aids, despite the time. Regards to all. And if someone wants to aid an American English speaker, what’s a Donkey Derby anyway?
    1. This should fill you in on this essential item on the English summer sporting calendar. Apparently, similar things called burro races are held in the US.
  4. Got held up here for far too long on a few. 39 minutes. Neat stuff. I too didn’t believe in an anagram for Borneo. Maybe the first answer to What’s what is That’s what, the next being the Burns line … still doesn’t feel quite right. Yet one wants to “pass” the clue: maybe a nice example of the empathic element in setting, the appeal to a sense of inner aptness. Or maybe there’s a steadier rationale.
  5. Incidentally I loved Sabine’s animadversion to a certain source of distraction…
  6. 35 minutes for me today. This seemed more difficult at the start than it turned out and although most of the time I felt sure I was about to come unstuck at any moment things flowed along quite nicely and I solved each quarter completely before moving on to the next.

    Like Vinyl1 I started in the NW and found it reasonably straightforward.

    Several answers went in on definition alone plus checking letters, AFRICA STAR and NIT PICKER for example, and I worried about the wordplay later. I didn’t know PHYLA but it fitted as a hidden word so I took a chance on it.

    My only major delay was at the very end at the intersection of 10ac and 8dn where I had put NUBBLE but then couldn’t solve the Down clue. So I reconsidered the wordplay and eventually decided that NUBBIN was a better fit and it also allowed NAILS at 8dn. On checking Collins I find that NUBBLE is defined as ‘a small lump’ whereas for NUBBIN it doesn’t mention lumps at all, just the ear of corn thing. COED however does justify the clue.

    Sabine’s remark about actors forgetting their lines sent me to the dictionaries as I have always had a keen interest in things theatrical yet I have never heard of ‘corpse’ in this context refer to anything other than laughing on stage. Collins agrees with this but both Chambers and COED have forgetting lines as an alternative. Everybody I have known and read on theatre terms that ‘drying’. But one lives and learns!

    1. Everyone of a certain age will remember Brian Johnston’s corpsing on Test Match Special, probably the funniest radio sequence of all time. A version here together with some less well known to me, to brighten up a Friday. Sorry for the excessively British reference: Test Match Special is the venerable Cricket commentary programme of the BBC.
    2. I have always understood “to corpse” in the thespian sense to cover both an actor’s forgetting his/her lines or being seized by an uncontrollable fit of the giggles and rendered unable to speak, though, when you think about it, corpse-like seems a much more accurate description of someone paralysed by terror after “drying” than of someone convulsed by laughter, as in the famous Johnners and Aggers cricket commentary (see link below).

      An excellent puzzle, full of ingenuity and good deception. I particularly liked USEFULLY and PAMPAS GRASS.

  7. 35 minutes. If the task of the compiler is to lay a false trail for the solver, then he/she certainly succeeded in diverting me (in both senses) with several clues today. Last in was PIUS, which I took me a while to see. I enjoyed this puzzle very much.
  8. 10:02 here

    Not troubled by the Burns clue unless there’s something else in Burns to fit XXXX’s XXXX.

    Last two for me were 10A and 7D – L?B?T?R looks well-nigh impossible if you don’t see the answer quickly.

    Slightly surprised not to see any grumbles about religious=FRIAR in 18 – maybe everyone else knows about religious=a person bound by monastic vows.

    1. It was the only query on my mental list of comments to make but I looked it up before writing them up for the blog.
  9. 22 minutes, which was longer than I expected having entered the first two across clues in nothing flat. I agree there was some excellent diversionary work here today: “mobile phone” surely gave CELL to start with, but then nothing else made sense in the clue. I got PHYLA, but was trying for too long to work map into it somewhere (echoes of Pamphylia were ringing round – you can have too much GK sometimes. INHUMAN was delayed by wanting it to start INTE(r), and UTAH and PIUS (last in) were beautifully done. I had NODULE for NUBBIN until nothing else worked, even though I couldn’t justify it. I quite liked the Burns clue, even if it is close to the edge. CoD to PIUS, just ahead of AFRICA STAR.
  10. An excellent puzzle for me, full of misleading red herrings and devious constructions. Thank you setter. 30 minutes to solve.

    I’m a little saddened that so many haven’t heard of the Africa Star, a medal my father wore with pride having been with Monty right across North Africa. it shows how quickly these things are forgotten as times moves relentlessly on.

    I also thought that to corpse was to choke with suppressed laughter and that to dry was to be unable to speak learned lines. I know so few Burns poems that “a man ….” came swiftly to mind. I think the religious=friar link has appeared here before in the not too distant past.

  11. Burns did for me, I’m afraid. Threw in the towel after more than an hour. Didn’t understand PIUS, despite having ancountered piu lento on many an occasion and I’ve never heard of corpsing, although the cryptic led me there, once I got Copelia (sic) out of my head. This was indeed deviously simple or simply devious; I kept thinking “I can’t be stuck on this one, surely”. I liked USEFULLY, RAFFLES and particularly CELLOPHANE but COD to MOUSSAKA.
  12. 12.35. A few guesses. PIUS went in as the only obvious option. I didn’t see UTAH at all – well disguised (as was 11). Some very good clues to end the week. 28 is my COD. No problems in getting 24 but I couldn’t fathom how the wordplay worked
  13. A fast for me 45 minutes, which I was quietly pleased with until I came here only to find I’ve got 28ac wrong (guessed at ROUNDS ON). Doh! Quite a few I didn’t understand while solving, and indeed until now – 21ac, 3d, 26ac, 12d, 19d, 24d. Last to fall was the SE corner. COD 20d.
  14. 22 m and thank you sabine for explaining so many I had not analysed properly myself. Agree with corpse not same as dry on stage, and nubbin just solved from wordplay. Held up in NW – also slow to anagram 1a, get 9a and last in 2d and that small lump. COD phyla for its misdirection.
  15. This was very enjoyable with much wit and ingenuity. I gave it lots of ticks, including the clues to Lobster, Raffles, Utah and Pius. I finished with Amman. I recognised the poem but I was uncertain whether it was “A man’s a man..” or “A mon’s a mon…”. I was probably thinking of Lord Rockingham.

    I’m with Jimbo on the Africa Star. My father had one too. I think he told me that it was for being General Alexander’s cook but it’s too late to check with him now.

  16. Another lovely puzzle. We have been spoilt this week, particularly when compared to last! Finished in about 45 minutes.

    Never heard of NUBBIN, struggled for a while with RAFFLES but COD to PHYLA which I had to check after solving (never heard of that either!).

    I hope tomorrow’s compares favourable with this.

  17. Thanks for 2 down and 20 down. Both of which I have never heard of and have spent more time on than the rest of the crossword.
  18. I liked this too – quite a few neat wordplays in the classic, terse, concise Times style (AFRICA STAR, PAMPAS GRASS notably)
    I did think “extremely excited” was a bit weak for “ED” in CORPSED but “ED” is a tricky bit to clue without falling back on references to leading journalists, etc.
  19. Could this be a play on parents assosciation members being school governors rather than simply pa? Or am I reading too much into it?
    1. I think you probably are – the strongest reason being that the associations are PTAs rather than PAs.
  20. A favourite from Burns and the A MAN from AMMAN

    1.
    Is there for honest poverty
    That hings his head, an’ a’ that?
    The coward slave, we pass him by —
    We dare be poor for a’ that!
    For a’ that, an’ a’ that,
    Our toils obscure, an’ a’ that,
    The rank is but the guinea’s stamp,
    The man’s the gowd for a’ that.
    2.
    What though on hamely fare we dine,
    Wear hoddin grey, an’ a’ that?
    Gie fools their silks, and knaves their wine —
    A MAN’S A MAN for a’ that.
    For a’ that, an’ a’ that,
    Their tinsel show, an’ a’ that,
    The honest man, tho’ e’er sae poor,
    Is king o’ men for a’ that.
    3.
    Ye see yon birkie ca’d ‘a lord,’
    Wha struts, an’ stares, an’ a’ that?
    Tho’ hundreds worship at his word,
    He’s but a cuif for a’ that.
    For a’ that, an’ a’ that,
    His ribband, star, an’ a’ that,
    The man o’ independent mind,
    He looks an’ laughs at a’ that.
    4.
    A prince can mak a belted knight,
    A marquis, duke, an’ a’ that!
    But an honest man’s aboon his might —
    Guid faith, he mauna fa’ that!
    For a’ that, an’ a’ that,
    Their dignities, an’ a’ that,
    The pith o’ sense an’ pride o’ worth
    Are higher rank than a’ that.
    5.
    Then let us pray that come it may
    (As come it will for a’ that)
    That Sense and Worth o’er a’ the earth
    Shall bear the gree an’ a’ that!
    For a’ that, an’ a’ that,
    It’s comin yet for a’ that,
    That man to man the world o’er
    Shall brithers be for a’ that.

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