Times 27,053: The Thriller in Vanilla

A very competent and concisely clued crossword, but almost unnecessarily straightforward for a Friday – oh well, if you find yourself craving convolution there’s always my Club Monthly blog, also live today.

I quite liked 2d for being the quirkiest clue of the day and also 3d for a fun cryptic device resulting in a nice surface. Having done this on paper I don’t have an exact time, but I know I didn’t have to pause long at any point: a “steady, pleasant solve”. Thanks setter!

ACROSS
1 Arrangements for action aborted, or left out (5,2,6)
ORDER OF BATTLE – (ABORTED OR LEFT*) [“out”]

9 Maybe kilos wife’s shed, showing figure (5)
EIGHT – {w}EIGHT. WEIGHT is “maybe kilos”, shedding W for wife.

10 Moving a line at the end of proposal on the internet? (9)
EMOTIONAL – A L [a | line] at the end of E-MOTION. MOTION is a proposal, and you can jocularly internet anything by putting an E- in front of it.

11 One dealing with gender-fluid performer (10)
TRANSACTOR – TRANS [gender-fluid] + ACTOR [performer]. Is “trans” necessarily “gender-fluid”? You might be trans and very firmly committed to your gender. Probably best not to start arguing about these things on the internet though…

12 Asian bands love ending with encore (4)
OBIS – O [love] ending with BIS [encore]. A familiar word in crosswords, like its friend the ibis, an obi is a Japanese kimono sash.

14 Ruler in east, one out of Shanghai (7)
EMPRESS – E [east] + {i}MPRESS [shanghai, losing I for “one”]

16 Language‘s current rules about welcoming greeting (7)
SWAHILI – I LAWS [current | rules], reversed and then “welcoming” HI [greeting]

17 Old writing, wanting a new start (7)
OPENING – O [old] + PEN{n}ING [writing, wanting “a new” = one of its Ns]

19 Pupil once misleads about spearhead of ground forces (7)
OBLIGES – OB [= old boy, pupil once] + LIES [misleads] about G{round}

20 Losing heart, book holiday period (4)
NOEL – NO{v}EL [book, losing “heart” = its central character]

21 Leader with due respect to me (10)
PACESETTER – PACE SETTER [with due respect to | me]. PACE, from the Latin, is a word that I’ve never quite known how to pronounce. I tend to gravitate to saying it so it sounds quite similar to an r-less “padre” – what about you?

24 Radical message, not the first on film (9)
EXTREMIST – {t}EXT [message, “not the first”] + RE MIST [on | film]

25 Once again, make fast retreat — run off (5)
RETIE – RETI{r}E – a word for retreat, losing one R for “run”.

26 Pan for some food maybe being the wrong size (13)
DISPROPORTION – DIS PRO PORTION [pan | for | some food maybe]

DOWN
1 Say how to buy drug patent with two drugs — the wrong way (4-3-7)
OVER THE COUNTER – OVERT [patent] with H + E [two drugs] + COUNTER [the wrong way]

2 Belief one may be a source of litter? (5)
DOGMA – convert the word laterally into DOG MOTHER and you will have the proud source of a litter of pups.

3 Sozzled, rise twice to spit (10)
ROTISSERIE – (RISE RISE TO*) [“sozzled”]

4 Rob’s put on small garments (7)
FLEECES – FLEECE [rob] is put on S [small]

5 Way of working in thrill, almost erotic (7)
AMOROUS – M.O. [way of working] in AROUS{e} [thrill, “almost”]

6 Grasp tip of throw rug (4)
TWIG – T{hrow} + WIG [rug]. Was hoping this to be something to do with syrup again, but that was probably a one-off.

7 Giving title to book and nine long works (9)
ENNOBLING – (B + NINE LONG*) [“works”]

8 Doctor stops neuralgic spasms (7,7)
PLASTIC SURGEON – (STOPS NEURALGIC*) [“spasms”]

13 Does one hold up one who is late? (4-6)
PALL-BEARER – cryptic definition, “late” meaning “deceased” in this case.

15 Introduced now dominant figure on paper (9)
PRESENTED – PRESENT [now] + ED [dominant figure on paper]

18 Tradesman more likely to avoid work after golf (7)
GLAZIER – LAZIER [more likely to avoid work] after G [golf]

19 Henry leaves Frank a record for dance (3-4)
ONE-STEP – {h}ONEST [H for Henry leaves a word meaning “frank”] + EP [record]. When you see dance in a clue and a 3-4 enumeration, it’s very often ONE or TWO-STEP…

22 Show disapproval over note in noted passage (5)
TUTTI – TUT [show disapproval] over TI [note]

23 Place to eat in Times Square (4)
MESS – hidden in {ti}MES S{quare}

54 comments on “Times 27,053: The Thriller in Vanilla”

  1. One of those odd ones where I struggled to get anything to start with (apart from FOI 6d), wondering if it was going to be a real stinker. Then I finally got 7d ENNOBLING and everything started falling into place in quite a nice flow. 35m in total, so my fastest of the week.

    LOI 21 PACESETTER, where I wasn’t sure about the pace bit (I’ve never needed to pronounce it, but if I had to take a stab it probably wouldn’t be a million miles from “parquet”.) COD 2d DOGMA, which made me grin, WOD SWAHILI.

  2. 9:55 … I didn’t get annoyed at any point in this, so perhaps I’m recovering form Acquired Crossword Intolerance. Or maybe it was just a well-judged puzzle, even if it wasn’t quite chewy enough for verlaine’s Friday tastes.

    DOG,MA is the sort of thing that made me love crosswords in the first place, so an automatic COD, but I got another chuckle from FLEECES

    1. I suffered from Acquired Crossword Intolerance for much of the last two calendar years. I’m pretty well cured now, thanks to a combination of retirement, and this blog !
  3. 25 mins with half a Fat Rascal (hoorah)
    I’m a bit disappointed. It is Friday, it is the 1st of June. I was expecting Pimms with strawberries and borage and this was more like a half of mild.
    Mostly I liked: Dogma.
    To cheer myself up I think I’ll do a one-step to Tutti Frutti. And where did I put the Pimms?
    Thanks setter and V.
  4. 30:25.

    1 ac. I couldn’t find where the “F” in Order of Battle could possibly come from as I was determined that Left =L.

    11 ac. I’ve not seen “trans” here before, defined as gender-fluid.

    21 ac. I would pronounce pace as almost rhyming with Saatchi. Either brother. Or with starchy.

    COD and LOI, PACESETTER.

  5. I think it’s pronounced pack-eh, but it’d be odd to use it in speech. 13’45” today, which must be a PB for a Friday, this early-morning-online solving must be growing on me.

    Am pleased to see that the Times uses ‘kilo’ both as an abbreviation and in its everyday context – pedantic physicists will tell you that it’s a unit of mass.

    Thanks verlaine and setter.

  6. I suppose if I said ‘pahkay’ I’d have to say Kikero, and weni weedee weekee, so I pronounce it like an Italian word. 21ac my LOI–maybe the last 5′–and COD.
  7. I found this pretty much as hard as the rest of this week, but evidently it was just me. I agree with verlaine that there was some nice concise clueing – “Doctor stops neuralgic spasms” being one of my highlights but a firm COD to DOGMA today. Not least because I’d thought of DOGMA for belief early on but couldn’t parse the litter part so the penny-drop moment was particularly pleasing.
  8. A welcome relief after the trials of recent days although it was by no means easy and, like Matt (above), I struggled to get going and thought at first we may be in for another stinker. I came home in 33 minutes, which is my best solving time for a while I think, although I don’t keep day-to-day notes on such matters for the 15×15 and I’d have to review my recent contributions here to confirm that.
  9. I have the impression that PACE has an Italian pronunciation since that’s where His Holiness has his HQ. That would make the A long, and the C a “ch” sound. So, PARCH-EH.
      1. I agree, PAR-CHEY, this was what I was told at school, as Church Latin, although we kept telling the man nobody knew how the Romans pronounced any of it.
        1. I like an Italianate “c” in my Latin these days – “pace” is Latin rather than just Italian, or am I mistaken? – but in school a hard “c” was drilled into us so I guess it would have been “parquet”. “Par-chey” is just nicer to say.
    1. I also concur. That’s how we used to say it during the old Latin Mass although in my memory it sounds like parchay.

      Edited at 2018-06-01 09:06 pm (UTC)

  10. …surely a denial of the Second Law of Thermodynamics? My sister- in-law used to live in Battle. I was always disappointed that the ‘Battle Welcomes Careful Drivers’ sign didn’t read ‘Let Battle Commence’ instead. 24 minutes with lack of total conviction about OBIS. This philistine decided that TUTTI must be a musical term courtesy of Little Richard. DISPROPORTION is a word that doesn’t look in proportion, which I guess is the way it should be. COD to DOGMA, which was nice. I think the definition of OVER THE COUNTER is a drug with insufficient content to do any good. Easyish for Friday but a pleasant puzzle. Thank you V and setter.
    I forgot to add, my Latin master would have insisted on PAR SAY. To use CHAY was for Church Latin.
  11. I almost missed the “wig/rug” connection for the second time this week, and this puzzle had me scratching my head in a few places before I mopped up in 17:23

    FOI ORDER OF BATTLE, but the anagrind took well over a minute to crack.

    I biffed RETIE, and feel that “run out” would have been more accurate than “run off”, which suggested to me that the “r” either began or ended the relevant word. My only gripe with an otherwise excellent puzzle.

    Thanks to V also for parsing my other biff OVER-THE-COUNTER, where I had a drug problem.

    LOI EXTREMIST where I yet again overlooked “on = re” for some time.

    Loved DOGMA but COD EMPRESS

  12. Blimey, my Latin master would have had apoplexy if anyone were to pronounce it as anything other than ‘packay’; ie it is the ablative form of ‘pax’ and the letter c is always hard in Latin.
    Lovely crossword though, a very enjoyable 24 mins.
    1. Hard C, soft C ? It was 1961 that I did Latin O level! I’m sure you’ll be right. It was Church Latin our master railed at. I think he was a Methodist.
  13. 19 minutes, quickest of the week, and given that it opened up the smooth solving of the rest of the grid, would have been much quicker if I’d got 1ac sooner.
    As one who often enough sings “dona nobis pacem” in choral society masses, the pronunciation of PACE is difficult to imagine otherwise, though Chambers sanctions 3 possibilities.
    My CoD goes to the delightfully macabre PALL BEARER, a cd with pleasingly grim wit. But DOG MA was funny, too.
    I remember a time when gender-fluid meant (if anything) neither one thing nor the other. Now I suppose it means neither one thing nor any of the other 53. What enlightened times we are privileged to live in!
  14. Yes, this was pretty straightforward and I knew all the GK but it is a well crafted puzzle with good surfaces. COD to the PLASTIC SURGEON who makes another appearance (I suppose they do, really).
  15. 18:21, so a welcome relief after the struggles I had with the others this week. The top went in easier than the bottom with NOEL and OPENING my last two in. PACESETTER my COD (I’m with Brnchn and Kevin on the pronunciation of the first part). DOGMA was fun, but it has come up similarly clued in a recent Jumbo. I liked ROTISSERIE to.
  16. 24 minutes, with the hidden MESS my LOI with a big Doh! Liked DOGMA and PLASTIC SURGEON was very slick.
  17. I had ACI for years but now I’m just AFFRONTED*

    * Anagrams For Foreign, Religious Or Never-heard-of Terms Every Day.

  18. Pleased to do this in 26 mins with no help from anybody. However I had to come here for the explanation of 1d. Particularly liked PALL BEARER, for which I had the word DEAD typed in for the first 4 letters for quite a while. This description of the word ‘late’ reminds me very much of the wonderful No 1 Ladies Detective series.
  19. Challenging, if nowhere near the occasional Friday horror, and most entertaining. PACESETTER was both last in, and my favourite of the day.
  20. Enjoyable 23 mins with a lucky toss-up between OBIS/EBIS, having presumably forgotten (along with much else) any past encounter with the former.

  21. PS Is it just my settings, or do others find that their own comments sometimes do not show in the IPhone LJ app?

  22. A very un-Friday puzzle – it took a while to get up to speed, but the bottom half fell pretty quickly, for a total of 6m 54s.

    I’m feeling in a good mood, so I very much enjoyed 2d. EMPRESS was also nicely constructed at 14a.

  23. Just a shade under the half hour for this one. Quite gentle for a Friday, but since yesterday was apparently a Monday perhaps this was a Tuesday. Enjoyable, in any event.

    Regarding PACE and Latin pronunciation, I was taught everything I know about Latin (which is almost, but not quite, nothing) by the kindly and elderly Mr. Baden – a Mr. Chips tragically misplaced in a 1970’s comprehensive. I believe he favoured the hard C, but then again he applied a home counties accent across the board which, on reflection, seems wrong.

    I appreciate that there are few, if any, surviving audio recordings of genuine Romans, but surely the pronunciation can be inferred from things like songs and poems? There must be such a thing as “forensic linguistics”.

    Edited at 2018-06-01 11:01 am (UTC)

      1. Interesting indeed!

        Veni, vidi, teeny weeny yellow polka-dot bikini.

  24. Another dnf as threw in ebis intending to go back to it – actually knew obis. Otherwise fair time for me. I don’t think I’ve said it yet but certainly think the hard c in that ‘pace’. Nothing like learning Latin for setting the tongue in stone. I once – and still cringe to think of it – informed my GP I wasn’t interested in a plakebo. I like the pacesetter clue for the variation on an old theme.
    1. I got given incredibly hostile treatment by a waiter in Victoria, British Columbia once for having the temerity to pronounce “bruschetta” with a hard-c sound… but I just can’t not!

      Edited at 2018-06-01 03:49 pm (UTC)

  25. The above could be an interesting trip. As many animals have similar DNA I’m waiting for the time when we can self-identify as a dolphin. Personally, live and let live etc. Easy Friday puzzle, which doesn’t pass my lips that often, complete in 35 mins. Had difficulty with Pacesetter but fortunately knew Obis. Sorry V – no challenge for you today. Thanks setter.
  26. Ebis, obis… I was all for obis, as it sounded more likely, but couldn’t get past the notion that ‘love ending’ = e. Otherwise, what’s the ‘ending’ doing in there? I don’t think you can say that ‘love ending with something’ is the same as ‘love followed by something’. Love has already ended once you’ve written O; it can’t continue ending, iyswim. This seems to be a clue in which the accuracy of the wordplay has been sacrificed to smooth out the surface reading – something which the crossword editor said was a no-no yesterday or the day before. I agree with his assertion: ambiguous or faulty wordplay is bad news, and is up there with obscure words clued by anagrams as a source of frustration.
  27. Dogma was a nice clue, and the overall puzzle had just the right level of difficulty (or not), to return to after the parent-sitting and Blighty-visiting which mostly kept me away from the puzzle for the past ten weeks. Thanks for parsing Over The Counter, Verlaine.

    Edited at 2018-06-01 12:33 pm (UTC)

  28. I would normally go with a hard C for pace.

    However, when my A Level Latin teacher left half-way through the course and was replaced by an ancient specimen who insisted that we pronounce as VEE all the V’s that we had hitherto pronounced as W I abandoned all hope and jettisoned Latin after the exam, preferring to continue with French and German at university on the grounds that they at least had some living practitioners to copy.

    Enjoyed today’s grid after the travails of the last few days. Grinned like a fool at DOGMA and PALL BEARER.

    Time: untimed, but well under the hour.

    Thank you to setter and blogger.

    Dave.

    1. It was only because Julius Caesar called us weeny, weedy and weaky that the Romans conquered us.
  29. The easiest one this week!
    But I must say, I detested (past tense; getting over it) the clue for FLEECES. If the first word of the clue, “Rob’s,” lost its apostrophe, it would be a concise, straight definition, as “robs” = “fleeces.” Making it appear to be a name and possessive on the surface so you can add S for “small” and have a different definition seems somewhat short of brilliant. (I tried to construct a better clue, but I was too sleepy.)

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