Times 26,177: Little Old Lady Who?

Well I think I enjoyed this one a lot – but I did it on paper again, and it felt as though there were various traps in there for the unwary (e.g. -NCE v -NSE at 6dn, putting in the right homophone at 26ac), so you all might need to double check for me that I did in fact finish and parse everything correctly.

No exact time because of the circumstances but I started while 21 minutes past the hour was showing on my phone and finished with 34, so in the region of 13 minutes. 12ac was my FOI as the “TRIP” part sprang immediately to mind, and 14ac followed seconds later, providing a good base of operations for further solving activity. LOI was 23d I think, just because I spent too long looking for a word from which I could subtract SH…

Some above average levels of deviousness scattered liberally about the grid today, which I appreciated: well concealed definitions (3ac, 4dn), lateral ones (27ac, 6dn), and impressive convolutions in the wordplay (21ac, 26ac). I really liked the co-emcee at 19ac. I’d never heard of a knock-for-knock policy, presumably due to not having a driving licence, and while 25ac came to me quickly I’m pretty sure it’s a beast whose herds are only numerous in Crosswordland.

But yes, on the whole that was the puzzle I’ve most enjoyed having to blog in a while, and if I could shake the setter by the hand right now I certainly would. Kept me guessing throughout and many little moments to treasure. Whenever I come out in enthusiastic favour of a crossword through there’s always at least some backlash grumbling in the comments (I have weird taste I expect), so what did everyone else think?

Across
1 SOCK – a blow: “on the contrary” to husband losing hair, i.e. hair losing husband [SHOCK minus H]
3 SMARTPHONE – “one used to call”: (THEM APRONS*) [“originally”]
9 LOVE SET – convincing Wimbledon success: LOVE + SET [dig | hard]
11 NEEDLED – got to: NEED [call for] + LE{a}D [guide “with no answer”, i.e. minus A]
12 STRIP LIGHTING – that Tube provides?: SLIGHTING [insulting] about TRIP [excursion]
14 DUPLE – double: “helping of” {caram}EL PUD{ding} “sent back”
15 RURAL DEAN – clergyman: RA [artist] in (ARUNDEL*) [“upset”]
17 WORK ETHIC – attitude to Labour: (OK WITH C{onservative} RE*) [“surprisingly”]
19 COMIC – entertainer: “one of two comperes” [CO-MC] introducing I [a single]
21 QUOTATION MARK – “one of a pair at 5”, i.e. the quotation marks surrounding “branch” at 5dn: (INTO*) [“rambling”] “toured” by QUOTA MARK [helping | celebrate]
24 ASININE – very dull: AS I [when | one] is followed by NINE [several more]
25 BEEFALO – cross: BEEF A LO{t} [grouse a lot “endlessly”]
26 INEPTITUDE – bungling: I NUDE [one | exposed] “penning” P in ET [page in “French and”] + IT [Italian]
27 WEEK – Sat (i.e. Saturday) in this: homophone of WEAK [worn our, “for audition”]

Down
1 SPLASHDOWN – the main landing (i.e. landing in the sea): SPLASH [prominent feature] + DOWN [blue]
2 COVER-UP – whitewash: OVER [extra] in CUP [vessel]
4 MATRIARCH – top female: TRIA{l} [pilot “losing tail section”] in MARCH [border territory]
5 RANCH – farm: {b}RANCH [arm “wanting head”]
6 POETIC LICENCE – cryptic def: a “linesman” here being a penner of lines, and a “letter” being that which lets, i.e that which gives leeway
7 OBLIGEE – we owe him: OBLIGE [please] + “tip for” {servic}E
8 ENDS – tips: and ends accompany the odds, as in “odds and ends”
10 SUPREME SOVIET – Communist leaders (PRESUME VOTE IS*) [“rigged”]
13 KNOCK KNOCK – jokey introduction (followed by “who’s there?”): KNOCK-{for}-KNOCK [sort of policy “not allowing” for]
16 RECLIMBED – grew again: REC [leisure facility] + LIMBED [supplied with members]
18 REQUIRE – make (as in “compel”): RE [note] on QUIRE [paper]
20 MEAT AXE – murder weapon: MEE{t} [“brief” encounter] involves A TAX [a duty]
22 ALERT – on the ball: L E [L{ill}E’s “wingers”] with all-round ART [skill]
23 MAXI – skirt: “mum removed from” MAXI{mum} [ceiling]

35 comments on “Times 26,177: Little Old Lady Who?”

  1. 23 minutes, but after more years than I’m admitting to I still can’t spell LICENCE (unless I copy from Verlaine)
    1. The way I remember it is PRACTICE/PRACTISE, where it’s much more obvious which one must be the verb!
  2. Rain stops golf today so time to do puzzle

    I agree with barracuda3 – not my favourite crossword. I can’t see any justification for “murder weapon” to clue MEAT AXE, don’t like “Sat in this” for WEEK and 6D is just feeble. Sadly, no balancing good clues.

    1. Assuming a “meat axe” is the same thing as a cleaver, it’s a pretty classic murder weapon in the horror film genre! But yes, on the tenuous side probably.
      1. I’ll bow to your superior knowledge of horror films but if “murder weapon” can be used to clue anything that can be used to kill somebody we have a fairly wide field me thinks. Candlestick from Cluedo? Letter opener (or was it scissors?) from Dial M For Murder? Need I go on?
        1. And of course Morrissey (lead singer of The Smiths) would be in no way equivocal about a MEAT AXE being a murder weapon. But that’s an even more niche observation to make probably…
  3. Ah, was wondering how to parse SARI. That’ll be the error then.

    I think the unchecked “c” in LICENCE is a bit tough on our US solvers, but no complaints overall. Liked “Sat in this”.

    Thanks setter and blogger.

    1. Thanks for the reminder of the transatlantic difference. I spent part of my childhood in the US, so that’s my excuse taken care of.

      I meant to say thanks, verlaine, for the parsing of OBLIGEE. I was trying to parse it as one of those sort of vocative “O, …” affairs. In the end I just bunged it in.

    2. I was trying to justify SARI for a long while myself, but there’s no “ceiling” to be found in those parts, no matter how hard you try.
  4. Found this tough – 39’50 – but enjoyed it. It needled – in the right way. SE devilish.
  5. I enjoyed this and finished it in reasonable time (for me – 45 minutes) having been very slow to get started.

    For the first 15 minutes or so I was praising the heavens that the puzzle had not fallen on my blogging day (I used to do alternate Fridays, though this wouldn’t have been one of mine anyway) but eventually things started to fall into place and I realised I could have coped with it after all.

    BEEFALO was an unknown.

    I was going to quibble that a LOVE SET is only a success if one happens to be on the winning side of the net, but I suppose the question mark allows for the alternative point of view.

  6. 34:54. One or two had me baffled for a while – needed 19d to get 21a, trying to think what you find two of at a ranch. Never heard of a BEEFALO before. Maybe you get them at a ranch.
  7. Agree with Jimbo, a bit messy, and never heard of BEEFALO, although am expert on the GRUFFALO. Wanted to put NIGGLED but twigged NEEDLED in the end.

    Edited at 2015-08-14 09:18 am (UTC)

    1. I knew in my heart of hearts everyone else was going to find it messy! “Messy but creative” is how I’d like others to think of me, probably, so that might be why I have a soft spot for such crosswords.

      I do find the population of this site does tend to kick back against the blogger’s opinions, so if I am a bit dismissive others step up to the defence, and if I wax enthusiastic people will go out of their way to mention the faults. A sensible compromise position is usually reached one way or another!

      Edited at 2015-08-14 10:44 am (UTC)

      1. I could never take issue with your blogs V, but with OBLIGEE today I was surprised you didn’t reference Desmond and Molly Jones.
  8. 13 mins. I enjoyed this one as much as V did, and like him I thought the clue for COMIC was a cracker. NEEDLED was my LOI after OBLIGEE. I have no problem with MEAT AXE being clued as a murder weapon because I think we should be required to think laterally every now and again.

    I’m surprised a few of you have said you haven’t come across BEEFALO before, although in fairness it may have appeared in Guardian or Indie puzzles when I’ve seen it in the past.

  9. I certainly do not have weird taste and yet like the blogger I found this the most interesting for a while. I’m pretty sure BEEFALO appears every now and again. For MEAT AXE, I thought the question mark after murder weapon made the clue OK but I can live with tenuous. WEEK at 27ac last in and COD.
  10. Abandoned after 60m with quite a few at the south end not solved. I very much enjoyed the blog but not a puzzle to my taste. I had no memory of BEEFALOES and no idea what KNOCK FOR KNOCK is. But 27a and 20d were the worst of a bad bunch and didn’t much care for 21a either! I just wish someone would give this setter a keyboard without a question mark key!

  11. Further to comments above, this certainly had the feel of a setter trying to do something a bit different from the norm and I welcome that as an occasional adventure, though I remain averse to cross-referenced clues, at least in The Times.

    Edited at 2015-08-14 12:42 pm (UTC)

  12. Odd puzzle – not difficult, 12:26 on the club timer, but I didn’t get the literal (if there was one) of KNOCK KNOCK or the wordplay for QUOTATION MARK. My last in was WEEK
  13. 16:45. There was an awful lot of biffing for me today, which is not my favourite way of solving, but I enjoyed the slight quirkiness of this.
  14. Fell into one trap (license) and created another (mini for maxi). Feel like a right beefalo…
  15. On the whole an enjoyable, ingenious and challenging puzzle. I think the question mark at the end of 20A allows the setter to get away with “meat axe” as one of the many possible things that might be used as a murder weapon, but I agree with Jimbo that WEEK (27A) was one of the feeblest, not to say weakest, clues in a long while.
  16. With the PI and L crossers in 7 dn, i thought public library was a gimme. Oh well.
  17. About 60 minutes, mainly due (as anon says above) that when I first pondered 6D, I had P???I? L?????? facing me, and I lit upon PUBLIC LIBRARY and confidently wrote it in, which screwed up that side of the puzzle for more than half an hour. I daresay it’s a far better answer to the clue than the actual one, so it took a while to abandon it. Sorting all that out (started by seeing BEEFALO, which I think has appeared before) took forever, and I spelled LICENSE with the “S” anyway, so I apparently got it wrong. Beyond that, I got KNOCK KNOCK only from the ‘jokey introduction’, I don’t understand the policy part, and I don’t remember seeing DUPLE before, anywhere. Lucky it was a fairly findable hidden. So I’m grumpy about the puzzle, but regards to everyone despite that.
  18. Another puzzle – like 26,175 a couple of days ago – that wasn’t really my cup of tea. I struggled through in 15:34, but without enjoying it all that much.

    I can see there’s was some clever stuff in there, but I have the impression that the setter was flagging towards the end: RECLIMBED = “grew again?” (hm!); REQUIRE = “make” (I’m not yet convinced); MEAT AXE (it’s “meat cleaver” where I come from); and 23dn has a very odd surface reading (what on earth is a skirt doing on the ceiling?)

    1. Oh yes, I was going to mention some misgivings about REQUIRE for “make”… I’m not sure I’ve been able to make it pass the substitution test yet.
      1. It passes the test, but only passively: ‘I was made to go’, ‘I was required to go’.
    2. That was precisely what mum was thinking when she removed it I think you’ll find 🙂
  19. Unfortunately put in NOBBLED for got at. Now I know why I couldn’t see the parsing, but it gave me P-B-I- for 6D and had me wondering what came after PUBLIC as well.
    Anne in Australia

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