Times 25710

Solving time: 23:50

I half expected some sort of Valentine theme today, then after meeting Macbeth, Richard and Othello in the first half dozen clues, I thought I was in for some sort of Shakespearean theme, but there was no further evidence of one.

It’s always a pleasant surprise to get a nice easy one on a blogging day, and at less than 25 minutes for me, it was certainly that. Anything sub-30 for me is a noteworthy achievement! Several good clues in here, although I think my COD goes to the cryptic def at 9d which I rather liked.

cd = cryptic def., dd = double def., rev = reversal, homophones are written in quotes, anagrams as (–)*, and removals like this

Across
1 CHAMBER POT = (MACBETH)* about (R + PO) – All those Dean Mayer Sunday puzzles put me onto this one in a flash – he does like a bit of schoolboy toilet humour!
6 MARC = CRAM rev – Marc Chagall was a French painter
10 DRASTIC = DR + C about ASTI
11 HOusE + DOWN
12 ST(ONE + W)ALL
13 RADII – cd
14 CHINA – hidden – CRS (china plate = mate)
15 DO + O + LITTLE – ‘Girl made grand’ is the definition, a reference to Eliza Doolittle in G.B. Shaw’s play Pygmalion, and the musical My Fair Lady that was based upon it.
17 NOTRE DAME = NOTE about (RED + MA rev)
20 WHERE = “WEAR”
21 IGLOO = GI rev + LOO (smallest room)
23 IN(T)UIT + I’VE
25 INSTEAD = IN (hot, as in trendy) + TEA (meal) in (S + D)
26 CURE-ALL = CU + L about REAL (physical)
27 N + ARK
28 TENDERLOIN = TEND (nurse) + EOIN (Irishman) about R/L
Down
1 pindariC + ODES
2 ANATOMIST = ANT about (ATOM + IS)
3 BY THE SAME TOKEN = (ENEMY TAKES BOTH)*
4 RI(CHAR)D
5 OTHELLO = (THE + L/L) in O/O (rounds) – the definition is a reference to a quote from the play where Iago tells Brabantio that ‘an old black ram is tupping your white ewe.’
7 AV(O)ID
8 CENTIPEDE = CEDE about (TIP after E + N)
9 REAR-VIEW MIRROR – cd, and rather a good one I thought.
14 CONDITION – dd
16 THE MIKADO = (KID AT HOME)*
18 ARIADNE = ARIA + END rev
19 ENTICED – It reads as if ENTERED (went in) is having ER (monarch) replaced by ICE (diamonds), although that would leave an extra E in the answer, so there may be a better solution.
22 LASER = L + (EARS)*
24 fEeLs LiEiN

53 comments on “Times 25710”

  1. Wondered what’s going on with stinkers on Wed. and Thur. and then this today. Very strange. Nothing really to trouble the timer with literals on show for all (most?) to see.

    Also wondered, as per Dave, about the apparently missing E in 19dn and look forward to reading possible alternatives.

  2. Another very pleasing puzzle, on the easier side of things which after the past two days was welcome in this quarter.

    41 minutes. Didn’t know the OTHELLO reference or Chagall’s first name and that spelling of the Irish name was also unfamiliar. 19dn is surely an error.

    I liked the defintion at 15ac best of all.

  3. was well chuffed on paper – the cigar must have helped.
    Then had finger trouble – TWICE.
    Ah well, teach me to not triple check before hitting submit. Shame 42 mins very good for me.

    To get the obvious gag out of the way….
    1A – couldn’t stop laughing – nearly wet myself.

  4. Indeed a relief after the last two. Couldn’t parse 28ac–never heard the name EOIN–but the checkers sufficed. First time I can recall that CHINA was the solution rather than being involved in the wordplay. 5d is rather TLSish a clue, although better constructed. I think Jack must be right, and 19d is an error.
  5. I share the consensus that after two stinkers, this is a welcome relief … alas not so for the poor folks in SW England, expecting more severe weather. Very enjoyable puzzle today.
  6. 17m. Straightforward stuff. Lots bunged in from definition with parsing left for later. I also liked the CD at 9dn, and 19dn does look like an error.
  7. Yep all done within 30mins, so definitely on the easy side. Found the bottom easier than the top. Could parse all but 19dn, and was hoping for enlightenment here…

    Also, EOIN familiar from the children’s writer Eoin Colfer (wrote the popular Artemis Fowl series).

    Edited at 2014-02-14 07:52 am (UTC)

  8. In celebratory mood, having managed to knock this one over after my dismal performance over the last two days! Slow going in parts but relieved to get over the line.

    28ac got me out of the hole I’d dug for myself down the SE corner. Had carelessly gone for Intuition rather than Intuitive for 20ac, which in turn led to the unlikely Nelle at 24dn… Then 28ac came to me (time spent watching the redoubtable Eoin Morgan in the recent England v Australia ODIs finally paid a dividend) and, armed with the certainty of that solution, I was able to unravel my, well, ravelled bits. Onwards and upwards…

  9. Not as hard as the last two but pleasant enough, apart from 19D.

    There is a nice article about Woodsy in the Sports pages, as long as he does not mind being described as having hair like a badly-advised Apache. On the other hand, he is described as possibly the politest sportsman in Britain. His 5th is the best British finish in a ski event at the Olympics.

    Edited at 2014-02-14 09:24 am (UTC)

  10. Just over 10 second hand circuits, my only real hold up being a confident HOSTAGE at 11 (STAG party replacing the US in HOusE with a stretch on the “defeated” definition). Definitely one of those where the temptation was to write in the answer without fully checking the wordplay, so I missed Eoin (Morgan, for me) in my LOI at 28. Is there a wilful perversity in Irish spelling? Why would anyone voluntarily pronounce Taoiseach tea shock (an approximation of BBC speak)?
  11. Middle of the road 20 minutes and very much back on calmer ground after two walks on the wild side.

    I also think 19D must be a mistake.

    We’re forecast over 30mm of rain today followed by gale force winds pushing a high tide directly up the swollen rivers. Could get very nasty.

    1. Hi jimbo,
      hope it doesn’t get too bad for you.
      Spoke to my aged mother (90 years young) earlier. She started prattling on about how the floods would be soon be affecting her because she lives in Dorset. She only calmed down when I pointed out to her that as she lives on the top of Shaftsbury, in a 1st floor flat, with commanding views across the valley, she was hardly likely to need sandbags. Bless.
      1. Thanks for the good wishes – we survived with only 2 power cuts and 1 lost tree. Around us was chaotic.

        Hope your mum was OK up there on Golden Hill – wind here reached 96mph so must have been quite bad on top of the hill

  12. Never in the field of crossword solving has such a feeble attempt been made. Can’t concentrate so off for a good walk instead (before it rains again).
    Thank you for your interest/support/patience with the whole Woodsy thing. Final comment and then back to Crossowrd Land.
    We found out afterwards that he has inflamed fluid in the hip socket and can hardly walk. They seriously considered pulling him from the event but, as it wasn’t doing lasting damage, drugged him up with pain killers, strapped him into tight, skin-diving type shorts, sent him out and he came 5th in the World in front of a multi-million TV audience. I think he’s a bloomin’ hero!
    1. Sue is always right, and she’s even righter on this. FYI, several of my American friends have told me how jealous they are of the Brits having such a well-balanced and generally admirable champion. His performance and subsequent interviews went down very well over there. (Taking nothing away from Woodsy, I did tell them it’s because we do better crosswords.)

      Edited at 2014-02-14 09:48 pm (UTC)

  13. Nice avatar, Dave 🙂

    Continued my run of good form this week, though if your self-imposed target is <2(Magoo), your heart tends to sink when you see him already clear at the top of the leaderboard with another ridiculous time.

    Anyway, hit my target, and thought this was perfect proof that Times crosswords absolutely don’t have to be difficult to be entertaining. Particularly liked 1ac, and thought 9dn was as good a cryptic def. as we’ve had in ages. I also paused on the ODES, but it’s a perfectly satisfactory synonym of “works” on its own, if you just see the presence of Pindar as adding to the surface, not doing double duty. On the other hand, 19dn has to be an error, doesn’t it, though luckily it probably won’t stop many people putting the right answer in.

    1. I think Jason is marginally ahead of Magoo for this week’s 5 puzzles – crunch time tomorrow for top of Tony Sever’s weekly leader board.
  14. Certainly one of the easiest Friday offerings in some while. About 30mins for me. I liked REAR-VIEW MIRROR, DOOLITTLE and INTUITIVE (with the neat link to IGLOO). CHAMBER POT evoked a school-boy snigger.

    At 1D, I took “Pindaric” to be be doing double duty, defining both the kind of “works” in question and supplying the letter C. But on reflection I’m sure Vinyl’s simpler parsing (“odes” = “works”) is what the setter intended. Not that it really mattered as far as the solution was concerned.

    I share the general bemusement about the spare E at 19D

  15. A nice one, polished off in my doctor’s waiting room while waiting for a blood test, about half an hour. FOI CHAMBER POT, LOI DOOLITTLE. Share the puzzlement over the superfluous “E” in 19dn, and the appreciation of the fine REAR-VIEW MIRROR.
  16. Brill avatar and the crossword wasn’t bad either – 9:02. Agree that 19d isn’t right but apart from that it all went in quite nicely.
  17. A gentle, pleasant solve, managed to finish after two defeats. Enjoyed this one, some of the clues were clever and imaginative. I have seen wee vessel before in the Times I think, but still a clever clue.

    Thank you for the clear blog.

    Nairobi Wallah

  18. Very good indeed, with all the excellence of clue-construction (perhaps bar 19D) and rather less of the thorniness, which arrangement I generally prefer, I must admit. Some lovely misleading definitions and sweet clueing.

    Cheers setter & blogger.

  19. 15:19, nothing much to add except to say happy birthday to everyone’s favouite pink rabbit, Sotira.
    1. Uh oh. I’d better nip this in the bud. It’s not my birthday. I use Valentine’s Day as my default “official birthday” when signing up for websites which really have no business asking. It’s not usually a problem but now I’ve discovered LJ tells people! I just had to reply to an email from Olivia and shamefacedly say “Thank you but…”

      So thank you, Penfold, but …

      1. Oh well, can I wish a happy Valentine’s Day to everyone’s favourite sneaky rabbit instead?
  20. Rather fun – 10 minutes, everything in with full understanding (though I didn’t spot the bloop at 19). Really liked CHAMBER POT and OTHELLO
  21. Liked this one a lot- nice to have so many entertaining clues without being too taxing.
  22. Enjoyable puzzle, with some nice clues.

    19dn seems to be wonky. Took me around 19 mins, which is not up to superstar standard but not bad for me, and my best time for this week.

  23. 11 mins, and proof that a puzzle can be both entertaining and on the easy side.

    I also didn’t notice the apparent error in 19dn but it didn’t stop me solving the clue. CENTIPEDE was my LOI and I’m very relieved it wasn’t defined as an insect. I just couldn’t go through that again.

  24. ref – I thought I was in for some sort of Shakespearean theme, but there was no further evidence of one.

    The following is only a “thought”, so please don’t shoot me down!!

    Knowing how the Bard and his peers invented words and abbreviations, but not being familiar with his works, as 19D remains unparsed, I’ve just had a nose on Google, and found…..

    William Shakespeare. flJine.
    Whe did ewihe ent the light ! l afm. Wet’t nnt the wey I 3 Mm. Them’e hnt ene dewn i the enn ie fled. 2 Mee. We heee leet heet helf ef …

    (which immediately reminded me as to exactly why I have never attempted to read him since schooldays)

    SO, is parsable……..

    “ent” (Bard-ism for “went in”) + ICE + D

    1. Sorry keef, but that’s not how Shakespeare wrote at all. I think what you’ve got there is a highly dubious piece of text recognition software that has attempted to scan the printed text of the book and convert the results into stored text – and hopelessly failed.
      If you look at the actual lines highlighted in the book, you’ll see it actually reads:
      3 Mur. Who did strike out the light?
      1 Mur. Was’t not the way?
      3 Mur. There’s but one down; the son is fled.
      2 Mur. We have lost best half of…
      Which makes a tad more sense.
      1. AHA – may light have dawned upon me???????????

        ENT STAGE LEFT – went in on the left of the stage

        1. If ENT is ‘went in’, and ICE is ‘diamonds’, then how do you get D from ‘monarch’?
          1. damn, but thank you,
            you are undeniably correct (as one has learnt to expect from you).

            And even if it was ENT + two – it is in the plural – diamonds (ICE & D), that would then make the ref to monarch superfluous.

            Back to drawing board (or setter admitting to EE error) – but running out of apace.

            For some reason (ennui?), this is really bugging me.

  25. Blimey, I knew Shakespeare was, on his own admission, a weak speller, but that’s just weird. A better version might be (I think – I googled your quotation verbatim)

    THIRD MURDERER Who did strike out the light?
    FIRST MURDERER Was’t not the way?
    THIRD MURDERER There’s but one down. The son is fled.
    SECOND MURDERER We have lost best half of our affair.

    But you may have a point. Waggledagger might well have written entered as enter’d to suit the metre, also suiting our purpose. Should have been indicated, though.

  26. After some time of lurking (measurable in years) thought I’d finally reveal myself in celebration of a week of completed solves (even if Thursday’s took two days).

    Many thanks to all the regular posters here who have been a great help in enabling me to hone my skills.

  27. Yes, on the easyish side, about 20 minutes. I didn’t know the OTHELLO reference, or where ARIADNE came from, but no real problems. I also felt there were too many ‘e’s in ENTICED. Sorry to have skipped yesterday, too much time spent digging out from under snow in the NY Hudson Valley. Good luck Jimbo with that heavy weather. Regards. And welcome to the newcomers.
  28. Attached as expected from the Editor at the Crossword Club

    From the Editor

    I can’t see any other explanation for 19dn other than an error. As this was a puzzle pre-dating my arrival I was in the same boat as everyone else.

    RR

  29. Thanks indeed everyone, first of all for being so complimentary about the puzzle in general, and second for being so forgiving of the error at 19D, which is totally down to me, I’m afraid. How annoying that is for a fastidious type such as me!

    Anyway, c’est la vie, and I hope that you all have an excellent St Valentine’s weekend.

    Anon.

    1. as you will see from my response to daveperry submitted simultaneously to your post, this has been bugging me all day.

      But, for holding your hands up, you are totally forgiven.

      1. I’d just like to say how much I appreciate reading through the valiant attempts to come up with possible explanations of how this clue could have worked. I admire the intelligence and commitment! Thank you. Brilliant for the setter to then close the issue off for everyone’s satisfaction.
    2. Not totally down to you – that is, unless you’re the (now retired) editor marking his own script.
  30. Well, that was all very nice. Didn’t spot the problem w. 19d, though I agree it looks like a bit of a bludner.

    I’m ashamed to admit I enjoyed 1ac. I also liked 13ac (RADII), though the checkers made it too easy.

    Failed to parse 28ac, never having heard of Eoin. I’m not sure one should encourage these other countries in their perverse spellings – if Ian is good enough for us, it ought to be good enough for them.

    Well, I’m off duty yet again on a Friday night, and wondering why. Honestly, leave just one pair of forceps in a patient they lose all confidence in you. It’s not even as if we’re particularly short of forceps.

  31. Hello all from an appreciative regular reader but only occasional contributor. Much enjoyed this, mainly because it was nice and easy and therefore aimed squarely at idiots like me. 50 mins, a veritable triumph. Puzzled over 19d for some time even after getting it, and was relieved to see that everybody thinks it’s a mistake. I had no problem with 1d – as a lapsed classicist myself I think the setter enjoyed the in-joke of ‘Pindaric’ which alludes neatly but obliquely to the ODES clued by ‘works’. Although pretty straightforward the puzzle was a bit of a throwback to earlier times, with all the classical and Shakespearean references. After yesterday’s fiendish effort it was nice to finish the puzzle AND feel erudite for getting all the references. I look forward to being cut down to size tomorrow.
    Tom
  32. 9:43 for me, including about a minute spent wondering if there could be some alternative answer to 19dn that would actually fit the wordplay. Apart from that, a nice puzzle, though I have to admit I’d forgotten the quote from Othello (last seen on stage with Willard White, Ian McKellen and Imogen Stubbs at the Young Vic). Like Tom (Anon), I also enjoyed 1dn.

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