TIMES 25258

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This was a fairly typical Monday offering with enough about it to give pause to all but the most expert solver. I managed it in 45 minutes with one wrong and a bit of a guess at my last in, wondering how a lion might be an idol. Or maybe I got that wrong too. We shall see…   

ACROSS

1 OPTIMISE – OP + IM in SITE* – a nice one to get us started.
5 H + OB+N+OB – ‘after hours’ was the giveaway here.
9 SAD + D+LE+RY – I was racing round the Isle of Man when I should have been casting my mind back to recall what it was like to exercise temperance.
10 TATTOO – ‘looking back’ is the reversal indicator and ‘over’ is the cricketing abbreviation O, so O + O (old) + TT (times) + AT reversed.
12 FIBRILLATION – I rather liked this, and the word itself tickles my fancy in a Ken Doddish kind of way; FIB + ILL in RATION.
15 Would it make you cry if we cut this?
16 SWAZILAND – anagram of LIZA[R]D and SWAN for the HIV-ravaged country with the lowest life expectancy in the world.
18 SNOWDONIA – NOW + DON in S[k]I[h]A[t] – ‘now’ for fashionable may be downright ugly but it’s in the dictionary.
19 CHIEF – no excuse at all for writing ‘thief’, as the wordplay – and word order – makes it crystal clear that the felon not only loses his head but gets crowned with a ‘c’ for good measure, ‘van’ doing its opposite of rearguard thing.
20 SQUASH (press) LADDER (run in tights) – I hated these things (squash ladders not tights) as I always seemed to be near the bottom.
24 I’ll follow the setter and make this an omission clue.
25 DELEGATE – [syndicat]E + LEG + in DATE – a little lifting and separating is all you require to attend this event.
26 EA(S)TER – if it’s not a cooker then it’s an eater, though both are in short supply in Blighty after the poor insects couldn’t scramble in all that rain.
27 SKITTISH – many will have just bunged this in, but for the record it’s SH for mum (as in ‘mum’s the word’) enclosing KIT (clothing) and a reversed verbal model (TIS).

DOWN

1 OUSE – there must be dozens of River Ouses in England; one of them is supplying today’s non-dodgy homophone.
2 TI(D)E – thanks to dictionary.com for coming up with the ‘turning point’ definition (AKA ‘a critical point in time’), even if it doesn’t quite convince me, when all I could think of was the ‘alternate rising and falling of the sea’ meaning.
3 MULLIONED – LION in MULE + D[iamonds] – a number of factors contributed to this being my last in, not least the fact the word itself was so unfamiliar as to be functionally unknown. Anywyay, in crossword land, when a mule isn’t being a hybrid it’s being, as here, a woman’s slipper, and when diamonds aren’t being ice they are being a minimalistic Mephistoesque D. Then there’s the lion. The best I can come up with for him, after extensive Googling, is the feline that appears to be worshipped along with his mount, the goddess Amba, in Hinduism. (Or see mctext’s rather more sensible suggestion in the fist comment below.) Oh, and if a window or screen is mullioned, it contains a vertical division.
4 SURPRISINGLY – another that many will bung in from the checkers. For the record, it’s P + RISING in SURLY.
6 The down omission
7 NITRIC ACID – IC in TRAIN* + CID – I sometimes wonder why God gave us all this excess Nitrogen if he knew what we were going to make of it.
8 BROWNED OFF – another phrase I like for some reason, probably because I feel like this quite a lot of the time. It’s BROW + NE + DOFF.
11 CLEAN AND JERK – yet another phrase that rather tickles my fancy, and thus gets my COD, even if it’s sister event in the weightlfiting discipline has an even raunchier name. One of my favourite moments in the Olympics was when the North Korean pocket battleship of a female weightlifter, weighing 100 pounds, made it onto the podium at her final attempt behind a Chinese and a Japanese who looked, for some reason, far better nourished. It’s an anagram of DANCER and ANKLE containing J[udge].
13 POSSESSIVE – ‘controlling’ as in helicopter parents. With a daughter just starting at boarding school in England, that would make my wife and I Skypelicopter parents. This time we have POSSE as the company for a change chasing [ad]VISES*.
14 BINOCULARS – was it only me who thought of the dog called Colin in Baldrick’s rotten borough being interviewed by Vincent Hanna? Probably. Glasses is the literal, and BARS around COLIN + U* the wordplay.            
17 INCLEMENT – our second, I think, letter substitution clue, where R becomes L.
21 I’m going scratch this one too.
22 TAX+I – like the muggins that I am, I put Bali and only got the real answer when I stopped to work out the wordplay and saw that tax meant try.
23 Hidden omission. 

52 comments on “TIMES 25258”

  1. And it’s a pangram. A couple of takes on puzzles:
    1. The idol is a LION because it’s lionised. Chambers: “a famous or conspicuous person much sought after (from the lions once kept in the Tower, one of the sights of London)”.
    2. TIDE: “There is a tide in the affairs of men …” (Shakespeare’s great pun on the word, picked up by the almost-as-great Agatha Christie, Taken At The Flood, 1948).

    Edited at 2012-09-03 04:04 am (UTC)

    1. The lionisation I like, but in the JC quotation, isn’t the flood rather than the tide the turning point?
      1. Hmm … possibly. But I can’t quite get the grammar to work that way. It is the tide which must be taken. Still: whatever floats your boat!

        Edited at 2012-09-03 04:30 am (UTC)

    2. Crops up in Wodehouse a lot too. E.g. from Joy in the Morning:

      “As Jeeves had rightly said, there is a tide in the affairs of men which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune. I drew back the leg, and let him have it just where the pants were tightest.”

      Edited at 2012-09-03 12:24 pm (UTC)

  2. I went off line after 20′, and forgot to clock in when I started with pen and paper, but it took me well over an hour. Fittingly enough, my LOI was 6d, which is where I live. DK 20ac. I wasn’t particularly pleased by the loose equivalences of surly/dismal, company/posse, and court/date, perhaps especially the last. But it was nice to have ‘fashionable’ mean something other than ‘in’. COD to SKITTISH.
  3. About an hour with a little help in the last few minutes because I realised I wasn’t going to complete the grid. One sticking point was 11dn where I worked out CLEAN AND JERK as a possibility but because I never heard of it I dismissed it as too stupid to be a serious option. If I’d considered a connection with the Olympics I might have thought it more likely.

    SWAZILAND was my fourth answer in and it occurred to me at that stage that we could be in for another pangram however I failed to turn this thought to my advantage at the very the end when all that remained to be solved was ?A?I at 22dn. If I’d realised I still needed an X to complete the pangram I would surely have come up with TAXI and then spotted the devious definition.

    Kevin, I also had misgivings about surly/dismal however it’s in Collins, which rather surprised me. I had no problems with court/date but I certainly didn’t like posse/company.

    1. To descibe a group of people gathered together, ‘posse’ seems close enough to company. I was put in mind of ‘the glorious company of the Apostles’ from the Te Deum.

  4. Riffled through this in about 14 mnutes, so easer than normal for me.
    I don’t like tide as a turning point and I can’t think of a sentence where that would work. I agree with Ulaca that in Shakespeare’s attempt, nice try though it is, it is the flood not the tide that is the turning point. The tide is taken MC, but only at the turning point, or flood.. and this sense of the word is not in Chambers or the ODO.
    Still, I bunged it in OK, so wotthehell, wotthehell
    1. Chambers has “opportunity”; albeit archaic. I think this is what Will was getting at with his nautical metaphor.

      So: there is an opportunity/turning point in human concerns which, if taken at its maximum point (flood) … usw. Ergo: TIDE is a perfectly good word for “turning point” in this sense.

      Of course, these days, when the tide turns, we have windows of opportunity! Yuk!

      Edited at 2012-09-03 08:43 am (UTC)

      1. Wouldn’t this be like saying “there is a turning point in the affairs of men which, taken at the turning point…”?
  5. 40 minutes. Spotting the pangram enabled me to finish with TAXI when I was tempted by Bali.

    Count me as another who initially dismissed TIDE: I too always thought of the tide turning rather than being the turning point.

    Quite a few neat clues of the type I appreciate: thought TATTOO one of them.

  6. 19 minutes, with the last in after a period of pondering being TAXI, because I couldn’t think of which part of the Navy might end in I. How useful the suspicion of pangram might have been, but as it was I got it within seconds of writing _A_I horizontally. And I’d been through the alphabet, too.
    Posse to mean company, or at least an affiliated group of people is (was?) part of the argot of street gangs in the inner city, five in this out-of-date-before-printed list. Probably more accurately translated as crew, rather than company (as in the “Red Dwarf Posse”), but once I’d got over Company not being CO, I was content enough to put it in without query.
    I assume SQUASH LADDER could be mutated into any sport and isn’t specific to the tiny pill game? Are the two words together confirmed in any dictionary?
    CoD to HOBNOB for its almost unannounced doubling of the OB’s
  7. 34 minutes with a lousy Bali, having forgotten to go back to it. And that, having sensed a pangram in the offing. I think something, say a situation in need of rescue, can be caught at the tide (turning-point). Had an idea there was a River Leek which got me off to a poor start. Surly as dismal to me is a little dismal. Somewhat 8.
  8. 34m for this, about half of which constructing CLEAN AND JERK from the anagram fodder and checkers (even though it’s vaguely familiar) and then trying to find the obviously unknown boat that would fit in ?A?I. I had to go through the alphabet to find my Doh! moment, and both T and X are a long way in. Victory by ippon to the setter today.
    I didn’t like the definition for TIDE, but it’s in Collins so we have to complain to them.
  9. Now we know how the editors take their exercise, and (perhaps) how they keep their whites clean. Thanks for the info.
  10. 18:26 .. with a couple of minutes at the end to get TAXI. It took me a while to get going on this but once I did I really liked it, partly because of the diverse vocabulary in the solutions. Nice blog, too – thanks, ulaca.

    Still slowly transcribing my way through my late uncle’s letters home, written during and after WWII (he’s currently a driver for an officer in and around Palestine, 1945 – Stern Gang etc. – and about the only people he likes are the German POWs!). If I had to guess, I’d say the single most commonly occurring slang term in his letters is BROWNED OFF, which gives you the vintage of the term and says a lot about the life of a regular soldier of the time.

    Edited at 2012-09-03 11:47 am (UTC)

    1. Yes, I associate the expression BROWNED OFF with my parent’s generation; my mother still frequently uses it.

      I also had an uncle who was a soldier in Palestine and North Africa before and during WWII, and he too spoke very highly of the ordinary German soldier. Tragically, having survived all that, he was killed when a V1 fell on the Guards Chapel at Wellington Barracks during morning service on Sunday 18 June 1944.

      1. The sort of personal tragedy which their generation seemed to regard in philosophical fashion. I’m pretty sure my uncle would have written: “Bad luck for him.” and left it at that.

        My uncle had a couple of spells as a camp guard in Palestine. Not that there was much guarding to be done. Most of the German prisoners were in no great hurry to get home to what sounded like chaos in their own land. One of my most treasured possessions (it’s sitting on my desk) is a cigarette case carved for my uncle by a German POW – a watchmaker in ‘real life’ – out of a mess tin. It’s beautifully constructed, with an ingenious hinge and spring clasp, and is elaborately decorated inside and out with various regimental emblems. It has a central motif carved in silhouette over a crimson lining, of a winged parachutist (my uncle had by this time moved to a parachute regiment). It’s inscribed ‘Port Said – 1947’, referring to what I believe was a transit camp for those getting ready for repatriation. On the back is a bas relief outline of the continent of Africa, also inscribed with the date. It fills me with wonder, and a certain melancholy, every time I look at it.

      2. My father went across Africa with Monty and then up Italy with the Americans. He always spoke highly of the German troops and POWs and indeed when speaking of Monte Casino confided that he was far more frightened of being killed by US “friendly fire” than by the enemy!
      3. Hi John

        I saw your reference to the Guards Chapel yesterday. I am compiling biographies of those who died (see http://www.ystradgynlais.info/the-guards-chapel.html for list and my contact details) and have lodged the information with the Guards Chapel staff. If you’d be willing to let me have more information about your uncle, I’d gladly add it.

        Best wishes

        Jan Gore

    2. One of my main memories from Spielberg/Hanks’ excellent Band of Brothers is the ratings which the US Airborne company involved gives to the European armies: France, Britain, Germany in ascending order. The SS and secret police have a lot to answer for in respect of popular perceptions of the Germans at war.
      1. We have previously mentioined (eg re wartime bombing) the large gulf between perceptions then and now, and indeed this is another example. My father often remarked that he would much have preferred fighting with the Germans, and against the French..
  11. No time recorded, but not by any means quick. TAXI was my last in also, having failed to utilise the power of the pangram. Nice puzzle, with COD to BROWNED OFF, although I wasn’t. INCLEMENT, CLEAN AND JERK & POSSESSIVE were good too.

    As for the tides, high tide and low tide are surely local maxima and minima of the tidal process and therefore turning points in the strict calculus meaning of the term. The fact that it is impossible to predict their occurrence at any point is neither here nor there. See this Australian Bureau of Statistics article which mentions Lord Kelvin’s harmonic analysis prediction method (“Before it was introduced … the tides at Australia ports were a hopeless puzzle”) and “The Dodger” of Adelaide.

  12. Another stymied by taxi at the end, not helped by missing “X” out of my list of letters to cross off once Z and J had appeared. Muppet.

    No reliable time although if they change the championship rules so as to require entrants to consume a bowl of soup whilst solving I banked some valuable practice today.

    COD to browned off.

  13. Fell one short today with Taxi missing. Couldn’t get away from the “fleet = navy” line of thought.

    We set up a squash ladder at work last autumn which has now degenerated into a ladder of two – me (top) and the guy in second place who play each other most Wednesdays.

    Re Snowdonia – I wonder if our setter is in fact an ultra-distance fellrunner not a squash player. Google the “Dragon’s Back Race” which started this morning at Conwy Castle in north Wales and traverses Snowdonia today. (I know three people competing in it and will be following their progress online.)

  14. Buy stuff and support robopostings for politicians. May be time to disable the anonymous comments.

    16 minutes, and relived I’m not the only one who was caught up for a long time on TAXI – I ended up going through the alphabet before spotting it. MULLIONED from wordplay, TATTOO and BROWNED OFF from definition

  15. About 20 minutes for all but three: the weird MULLIONED, FIBRILLATION and lastly, the unfamiliar BROWNED OFF. I had thought the MULLION was a term associated only with windows, and I was slow to see the lion as the necessary idol. I thought FIBRILLATION was neat. Browned off, well, that was new to me, and came from wordplay only, because it looked at least somewhat likely. So 30 minutes altogether. Regards.
  16. 20 minutes after 18 holes in some of the best weather this year. A lot may be having problems with TAXI because the definition isn’t all that good. A taxi doesn’t have to be part of a fleet – indeed in London the self employed black cab drivers (known as mushers) often work a single cab with just a co-driver, 12 hours on 12 hours off

    Not a difficult puzzle but good all round entertainment

  17. 20 minutes and enjoyed it but blew it, put in BALI as a guess because couldn’t see what else worked, still not enamoured with TAXI even though it’s been explained. Glad you had a good (dry) game, Jimbo, I had made 13 pars and a bogey today when we lost 5 and 4 on the 14th green, to Mr and Mrs M making six putts over 20 feet, four birdies and two net b’s, so it was just one of those days.
    1. Shades of Couples beating Woosnam 8 and 7 at the 1989 Ryder Cup, when Woosnam was himself under par.
      1. Thanks for the flattering comparison, I do dimly remember that match as Fred C was a cool hero of mine in those days. And I’m about as tall as Woosnam.
  18. 12:58 for me. I was slow to get TAXI and nervous about TIDE, but the real killer (which cost me minutes) was somehow getting it into my head that 13dn was enumerated (5,5). (Sigh! and/or Doh!)

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