Times 24,397 Exterminate! Exterminate!

Solving time 30 minutes

An entertaining puzzle that was a steady solve apart from the NW corner where I struggled a little for reasons I now can’t fathom. There are several homophones (including a truncated one) but none of them are awful plus the usual crop of poets and literary references. I don’t know how famous t Dr Who is and thus how overseas solvers will cope with the Dalek.

In May and November 2008 I analysed the topics that appear in Times cryptic clues. To read the full analysis go to the top of the blog and click on “memories” then “miscellaneous” then “clue topics analysis”. I have just repeated the exercise for November 2009 with the following results:

The Big Four

Geography 21% (16% in both November and May 2008)
Literature 16% (14% in November 2008 down from 16% in the May)
Natural World 13% (12% in both November and May 2008)
History 11% (11% in November 2008 down from 12% in the May)

Miscellaneous 39% of which the main entries were:

Music 5% (8% in November 2008 up from 5% in the May)
Religion 5% (7% in November 2008 up from 5% in the May)
Science 5% (6% in November 2008 up from 4% in the May)
Sports 5% (12% in November 2008 up from 10% in May)

– leaving 19% of entries falling into a potpourri that included obscure phrases such as “above the salt”.

The mean (average) number of entries was 9.5 per puzzle, up from 8.0 in November 2008 and 7.3 the previous May, so both the level and range of knowledge used in the puzzles has increased. The continued dominance of the big four is regrettable and the fact that literature scores three times the entry for science a cause for sad reflection.

Across
1 MINNOW – M(INN)OW;
5 NORMANDY – N-ORMANDY; reference Eugene Ormandy 1899-1985 who I thought was a Hungarian who worked in the US;
9 PANNIKIN – sounds like “panicking” without “g” (truncated homophones now!!); a small pan;
10 STABLE – two meanings 1=firm 2=chez dobbin (an Arab no doubt);
11 MONOLITHIC – (tool+Michigan without ga=Georgia)*;
13 DUKE – D(ownland)-UKE; UKE=ukulele;
14 CARD – two meanings 1=playing card 2=the runners and riders;
15 FREQUENTLY – FRE(QU)E(NT)LY; QU=question; NT=books;
18 CANNELLONI – CA(NELL)ON-I; Nell Gwynne 1650-1687 who traded more than oranges;
20 FOUL – cryptic definition (a foul leads to a free kick – or a goal if your name’s Thierry);
21 ECHT – (br)ECHT; Bertolt Brecht 1898-1956 is one of today’s almost mandatory poets;
23 RELENTLESS – RE-LENT-LESS; RE=royal Engineers; fast=LENT;
25 COBALT – CO-BAL(d)-T; strictly speaking it’s cobalt-60 that’s used in radiotherapy;
26 REGIONAL – LAGER reversed contains I(r)ON;
28 WELL-BRED – WE’LL = you and I plus BRED sounds like “bread”;
29 GUFFAW – GUFF-A-W; cobblers is slang for GUFF; answer=A; with=W;
 
Down
2 INAMORATA – A-TAR-OMANI all reversed; Nell again;
3 NUNHOOD – N(ark)-UN-HOOD; Thomas Hood 1799-1845 is the overworked poet; from one extreme to the other;
4 deliberately omitted – ask if puzzled;
5 deliberately omitted – ask if puzzled;
6 ROSICRUCIAN – (incurs Cairo)*; The Rose Cross mystics who influenced Luther and Scots Freemasons;
7 ABANDON – A-BAND-ON; leg=ON (cricket);
8 DALEK – (LAD reversed)-E-K; Dr Who’s most famous and most immitated enemies exterminate! exterminate!;
12 INFILTRATOR – IN=at home + sounds like Phil traitor;
16 deliberately omitted – ask if puzzled;
17 LOUISIANA – L(OUI-SIAN)A;
19 NETBALL – NE-(bat)*-LL; Nell from The Old Curiosity Shop (I prefer the other Nell);
20 FALL-OFF – FALL=autumn; OFF=the other cricket side (opposite to “on”);
22 CLOSE – two meanings 1=airless 2=cathedral precinct;
24 LURID – L(U-R)ID; U=universal (old film rating); R=resistance (electricity);
27 deliberately omitted – ask if puzzled;

28 comments on “Times 24,397 Exterminate! Exterminate!”

  1. Steady if unspectacular solve. Spent rather too long tryng to figure a conductor starting with R, ROSICRUCIAN took some juggling, didn’t know ECHT but easily guessed from Brecht. PANNIKIN fell nicely as my current read is Panicking Ralph by the estimable and inexplicably ignored Bill James.
  2. 7:03 so very similar to yesterday in difficulty for me. I don’t know whether Ormandy ever got himself naturalised as an American, but would not have been able to tell you his original country without research.

    Away for a couple of days with uncertain connectivity, so you’ll have one of our subs on duty tomorrow.

  3. 32 minutes. It flowed quite nicely once I got started with ECHT in the SW corner as nothing leapt to mind when reading the early clues for the first time. Several went in on trust and I battled with the wordplay later. If I’ve understood 16dn correctly I’m surprised it’s not blogged as the wordplay seems a bit tricky to me: (r)OGE(r) reversed, where “roger” stands for “received” in communications jargon. The answer went in easily enough from the defintion but I took ages to explain the second part of the clue.
  4. About the same as yesterday.. I put EGO in 16dn without hesitation as being Latin for “I” but did not see the point of “received” until reading the above.

    Eugene Ormandy became a US citizen in 1927. He is included on a really quite impressive Wikipedia list of famous Hungarian-Americans

    1. Thanks for that. I should have looked him up rather than rely on memory but I was a bit pushed for time earlier on this morning.
  5. About 50 minutes, possibly because I started at the top and refused to move on until I got a few. The bottom half was easier. But I put STALLS at 10ac for no reason that I can think of, except that it fitted half the clue and had no idea what the second half of 16d was about, so thanks jackkt. Apart from that an enjoyable solve with some tricky wordplay (well it tricked me, anyway). I particularly liked “not so” = “less” at 23. COD to PANNIKIN for the laugh.

    I’m becoming convinced that the crossing NELL’s is a setter’s trademark; it happens too frequently (in a recent Jumbo for instance). Either that or they’re all in on the joke.

  6. A steady solve in three ten-minute bites. One error: had not heard of ROSICRUCIAN and guessed at RUSOCRICIAN. First in DUKE, last in NUNHOOD. INAMORATA has appeared before so that went in as soon as I’d got the …RATA ending. COD to PANNIKIN.
  7. Love your analysis and like you deplore lack of “science” clues – but I regard natural world as a branch of that which would put literature down the league a bit! Are geek words in with science or the left-overs?
    1. It depends what you mean by “geek”. In general I bend over backwards to assign something to “science” because I’m pretty sure in advance that it will finish down the pecking order and don’t want to misrepresent just how under represented it is. Today for example I would put the COBALT clue in the science camp. The natural world tends to be names of birds and flowers rather than anything deeper that might smack of real science.
        1. I tend to put them into “other” with science being physics, chemistry, maths. If I do it again next year I may change the categories a little and look for say IT as a separate group – not that it would currently make a huge difference where you allocated such references.
  8. This was déjà vu all over again after yesterday’s puzzle The long answers went in quickly with helpful definitions and anagrams. The shorter answers were more tricky. Last in were echt and stable, even though I am well aware that Arab is crosswordese for horse.

    I justified ego as (R)EGO(T) being received going over but I am sure Jack’s explanation is the right one.

    John Dowland on the ukulele sounds as though it comes from the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band’s record “The Intro and the Outro” along with Princess Anne on souzaphone and Adolf Hitler on vibes.

  9. This took me 40 minutes. I made a very slow start, failing to get anything in the grid until I reached 28a. It flowed reasonably well from there, but I also had trouble in the NW corner, only making progress when I got MINNOW. Being a music-lover I should have seen ORMANDY far earlier than I did. I didn’t understand how “male or female” indicated FIL. Now I’ve seen the explanation in the blog I don’t much care for it, but elsewhere there were some very nice clues, 23 being my choice for COD.
  10. 13:40 here, so about average difficulty for me. I’d never heard of Ormandy before, but that only held me up for a few seconds while I confirmed a couple of the down clues off it. I’ve definitely seen the same construction for INAMORATA = A TAR OMANI reversed somewhere fairly recently (might have been in a Jumbo).

    I’m about equally well-versed in Science and Literature, so the more the better for me. Not so hot on music, although I’ve learnt a lot of musical terms and obscure composers through crossword solving. Interesting to see that Sports have gone down so much. Are you counting wordplay references to cricket fielding positions etc?

    1. Yes, cricket jargon counts as sports, even the hackneyed “off” and “on”. By and large the references to cricket have fallen in number since May 2008.
  11. I found this quite easy, apart from the unfamiliar (to me) PANNIKIN, ROSICRUCIAN, 20 mins. Did not understand FIL and EGO till coming here. Never heard of ORMANDY but once it said ‘wartime landing-place’, NORMANDY was pencilled in without full understanding. And no need to worry about giving away military secrets at this stage…
  12. A fairly steady 25 minute solve finishing with NUNHOOD. Spent too long trying to think of a French poet. Given that I don’t know many anyway that made it even more difficult.

    INAMORATA always makes me think of Flanders and Swann and the Hippotamus Song – His inamorata adjusted her garter,
    and lifted her voice in duet: Mud glorious Mud!……

    I liked the clues to FREQUENTLY and PANNIKIN.

    1. Interesting you mention Flanders & Swann. In the context of the “what constitutes Science” debate, I learnt more about thermodynamics from them than several weeks of Physics I. The graphics in the youtube clip fit nicely with our Dalek theme as well.
  13. 7.48 Pretty quick for me. Didn’t know Ormandy so 5a was an (easy) guess. INAMORATA is one of these words which I only know through crosswords.Last in were 12 and 15.
  14. A rather tortured 29 min. Was stuck in the NW (1ac, 9ac, 4dn) until Onelook found the MINNOW. Did not know that a post house was an inn. A few in without full understanding, but also without doubt. This all felt like something of a pot-boiler, a bit of a grind for setter and solver. Then again, there is always the hangover to consider.
  15. Didn’t know the word ECHT, and I didn’t think of Brecht, although I should have. I left this blank (?C?T), meaning to come back to it, but forgot. The rest took about 25 minutes. Oh well, better luck tomorrow, I hope. Regards to all.
  16. I didn’t see the wordplay for CANNELLONI so thanks for the explanation, but you’ve accidentally left out the N of CANON.

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