Times 24228 – Hold the Line!

Solving time: 22 minutes

Music: Delius, North Country Sketches, Groves/RPO

A walk in the park, which is a mighty good thing because I had a very exhausting weekend, clocking over 22 hours of work time besides other activities. This puzzle does call for a little knowledge here and there, but nothing exceptional. There were definitely some weak clues that could easily be improved.

I expect to see some very fast times here by our best solvers. I hope you were not slowed down by incredulity at how obvious some of the clues are.

Across
1 ON TIME, ON(TIM)E. I admit, I put ‘on edge’ as my first answer -hi, Edgar – but quickly erased it when I saw 2 could only be ‘tot’….unless it were ‘tad’.
4 SLIPSHOD, SLIPS HO[L]D. It is obvious that slips must be some sort of fielders in cricket, and that’s what they turn out to be when this Yank went to the Wiki article on fielding in cricket after completing the puzzle.
12 RICHTER, RICH TER[M]. I cannot seem to convince the setters that Richter is not a seismologist at all, but rather the greatest pianist of the 20th century.
14 ENFIELD, EN(FIEL)D. Like many English towns, we’ve got one in Connecticut as well. The original gave us the Lee-Enfield rifle and the Royal Enfield motorcycle.
17 HOPE FOR THE BEST, anagram of ‘HER BEEF HOTPOTS’. Long anagrams are seldom this easy.
21 NIT-PICK. N(IT)(P)CK. Although a nick is a slang word for a local lockup, it can apparently apply to the whole police station by metonymy.
22 LIAISED, L(I)A + I’S ED. Very simple for a multipart construction.
24 CLOSE SEASON, CLOSE (SE) A SON. Anyone who jumped to the conclusion of ‘CEASE FIRING’ without understanding the cryptic will have a mess to untangle. I erased mine after 30 seconds.
22 RECESS, RE CESS. This was my last to go in, but I reached into the back of my brain and remembered there is some tax or other called ‘cess’. Looking up to confirm, I see that it still exists in India.
 
Down
1 ON PAROLE, ON(PAROL)E. I misunderstood this clue at first, thinking ‘released’ implied an anagram of ‘one’. But it is part of the literal, and only ‘polar’ is an anagram.
5 LESSER ANTILLES, anagram of ‘Later, illnesses’. An easy anagram, but the four long answers in this puzzle are all rather straightforward.
7 HOUSE OF KEYS, cryptic definition. Easy if you have heard of it. In the Aeolus episode of Ulysses, Leopold Bloom is setting up a newspaper ad for spirit merchant Alexander Keyes that involves a graphical allusion to the Manx Parliament.
7 DENUDE, DU([P]EN)DE. A weak clue, in my opinion
9 AT A RATE OF KNOTS, anagram of ‘(too fast), a tanker’. I had not really understood this expression and its non-obvious meaning of ‘very fast’, but the anagram is clear enough.
13 CAR BOOT SALE, cryptic definition, where ‘saloon’ is a type of car. UK-centric, but not hard for a record collector with international contacts.
16 STUDENTS, STU(DE)NTS. I was very annoyed at this, it held me up for a long time and is a very easy and obvious clue.
18 EVINCED, anagram of N + DEVICE. Another rather easy clue.
19 ETAGERE. GATE backwads followed by ERE. A slight hold-up, but eventually guessed from the crossing letters and worked out later.
20 IN TOTO. A clue so ridiculously easy I was in afraid there was some trick. There wasn’t.

66 comments on “Times 24228 – Hold the Line!”

  1. It’s interesting that, in 24225, we had to know that DORRIT (10ac) was little and, today, we have to know that Tim was tiny (1ac).
    Someone from Dorset — is that a real place by the way? — may complain.
    My COD is 3dn because I like those straight charades.
    McText (of Minjup)
    1. 1A: I mist admit to interpreting “tiny boy” as just a short word for a boy, though Tiny Tim was probably who they meant. Dorset is a real place – a county.
    2. Dorset is one of the most beautiful and peaceful places on earth. As an adopted son I commend to you the Stour Valley, The Purbeck Hills and the Jurassic Coast. From the picturesque and historic town of Christchurch in the east to the Devon border in the west the people are friendly and the ale first class. The Tolpuddle Martyrs came from Dorset, which was thus to some extent the cradle of the movement to better the lot of the ordinary working citizen.
  2. In 6 Down it seems that “very abridged” is FUL so “very” = full. Could you please explain.

    One general point which applies to all of you who provide the explanations for the clues in the daily Times crosswords. Generally there are always several clues left out possibly because they are considered too trivial. These are often ones I have solved but haven’t fully understood the wordplay. Sometimes I am not even sure of the answer or that my answer is correct (I have an answer that matches the known letters). It would really help if all clue explanations/answers could be given at least in brief for those of us from overseas who are still getting familiar with the Times.

    1. In 6dn I took it to be FUL(ly).

      I believe that question about omitting some answers has been asked a few times before, and the answer is generally that it is asking too much of bloggers to cover all the clues, but if you have a question about a particular clue just ask – you are almost guaranteed a quick answer!

    2. See also About This Blog… in the links at the very top of this page as to why not all answers are blogged. As kurihan notes, the regulars on this site are always more than happy to answer any questions you may have.
      1. As for FUL(ly), that would be “very, very abridged”. I think it has to be FUL(l) unless the Times has changed its editorial policy. Very as in the phrase “full well”?
        1. COED has this for full, with the same phrase mentioned. (I can’t think of “full {anything else}” with this meaning.)
          1. Gives me another chance to quote Gray’s Elegy…

            Full many a gem of purest ray serene
            The dark unfathom’d caves of ocean bear:
            Full many a flower is born to blush unseen,
            And waste its sweetness on the desert air.

            Paul S.

        2. Sounds right – I didn’t think about it too hard as the answer was obvious
    3. Although you will get help fairly quickly with any clue you ask about, I’d recommend sometimes having a go at answering the question “How do I get this answer from the clue?” for yourself. Back in the days when I did this blog on my own and gave fewer answers, I gave advice about this here.
  3. 30 minutes with one wrong. I had HOUSE OF REPS at 7, with “reps” being an abbreviation for “replies” which I made up especially for the occasion. I was never going to get the correct answer, as it turns out, so this answer at least saved me a good deal of time. Also had ON TOME for some minutes at 1ac. Thought it was Tom Thumb. Must have been misled by thoughts of Toronto Tom at 3d. If anyone has any idea what ON TOME might mean, please let me know.

    For some reason I took quite a while to get going, but once I did progress was reasonably rapid (making up answers helped in this regard). My COD was SLIPSHOD, but I liked OVERDOSE, RICHTER and and URN.

  4. 6:10 – slow start but then got motoring. 24, 26 and 13 written in without full wordplay understanding. Also tired to make 1D more complicated than it was – “released one” was a clever bit of phrasing.
  5. Very enjoyable having breezed through much of
    it before encountering 27a which remained unfinished until I came here.
    Before, with all the NW corner solved but for 3d,
    I tried to think of policeman in a British context
    before I finally saw MO and UNTIE…and I’m Canadian, eh?
    1. @ colonialboy: I tried to think of policeman in a British context
      before I finally saw MO and UNTIE…and I’m Canadian, eh?

      Not all UK readers will know that eh is perceived (in Canada, at any rate) as the archetypal Canadian sentence-final tag. Who knows, this arcane bit of information might come in useful one day in solving a XW …

  6. Like Peter I got off to a slow start as nothing in the NW corner leapt out at me, but I got a toe-hold in the SW and after that progressed quite quickly. Last in were 27 and 19. I didn’t know CESS = Tax and if I have met ETAGERE before I had forgotten it. Fortunately the wordplay came to my rescue here.

    28 minutes.

  7. 20 min here. As for 20 dn, I have managed to get to be a pensioner without ever hearing of Dorothy Gale or Toto. Does that make me a bad man?
    1. I saw The Wizard of Oz when I was very young, but I haven’t read the book, and I didn’t know Dorothy’s surname.  I’m surprised to find a pensioner who hasn’t met these characters somewhere, whether over the rainbow or not – which isn’t to say it makes you a bad man.
      1. Well, I didn’t know (or care) what her surname was: I just assumed that “Gale” referred to the cyclone that transported her to Oz.
    2. Toto was immortalised in Dorothy’s much misquoted line “Toto, I’ve got a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore“.
      1. I think “Kansas” was mentioned in the earlier Times clue re Dorothy and/or Toto. Maybe somebody keeps tabs on these things and can post a link to it?
        1. A feat of memory near photographic! Times 23931, June 4, 2008. Girl from Kansas moved in to hydro (7).
    3. Well I’m not far behind you, Ross. I’m not a pensioner yet but I have my bus pass and I never heard of Dorothy Gale or Toto until a few months ago when one or other or both of them came up in another Times puzzle. This time I was ready for them!
  8. 25 mins without getting keys or etagere, both of which on seeing the answer rang a vague bell. i feel i should now be finishing puzzles of this difficulty, is the answer to just go through the alphabet?
    1. Going through the alphabet is sometimes necessary, but there are other things to try, especially if you can see a likely definition and/or part of the wordplay. In 7D, if you saw HOUSE OF ?E?S as probable, you might also see that the “legislature” in the clue is accounted for, but not “having all the answers” – this should at least help you to recognise “KEYS” as correct in your examination of possibles. In 19D, {before = ERE} is pretty corny, so might get you to E?A?ERE=”display stand” and {entrance = ?A?E}, which might suggest GATE.
  9. I think this is my first ever sub 10-minute solve. I’m not a fast solver and never time myself accurately, but this took over 5 and under 7 minutes, using pencil and paper. I was expecting to see some sub fours today, and am so far surprised at seeing only plus-fours so far! Perhaps I was just on the exact wavelength of the setter for once. Also, I find phrases easier to solve than single words usually, and this puzzle’s nearly full of them.
    2 was the one that held me up; it is TOT, isn’t it? Nip of drink and nipper as in child?

    Dorset? It’s the county of Thomas Hardy Tess and Thomas Hardy Kismet, isn’t it?
    Dafydd.

  10. 9:25, with two mistakes.  After 7 fairly straightforward minutes I just had HOUSE OF .E.S left at 7dn, and eventually (to answer pendrov’s question) went through the alphabet and settled on HOUSE OF REPS for the same reason as kororareka.  My alternative was HOUSE OF YEAS, and the right answer doesn’t ring a bell at all.

    It’s just occurred to me while looking at the clues again that 2dn must be TOT, not the slightly risqué TIT that I’d written in without thinking.  That’s what happens when you start the day with the Private Eye crossword.

    Clue of the Day: 4ac (SLIPSHOD).

  11. Ah yes, he must have been a tremendous musician. He invented a tremolo scale that doesn’t have a top limit and which introduces the concept of the infinitesmally small change into the chromatic. The earth moves for me when his scale’s played.
    Dafydd.
  12. Quite easy, the only resistance coming from etragere and the cess in recess, both of which I was able to work out.

    I was interested by the inclusion of “liaised”. At one time there was a school of thought that “liaise” was not a proper English word, being a false derivation from (the French) liaison. It attracted extra opprobrium in some quarters because it was seen as “business speak” along with phrases like touch base, out of the box etc.

    The second “i” is often omitted, a frequent misspelling, although I’ve heard and seen people argue that, since there is no such English word, it cannot be misspelt; or alternatively that, if a neologism, the alternative or Anglicised spelling is just as valid. Inclusion in the Times crossword would seem to suggest that the word is now accepted as valid English vocabulary. Good news I think: it’s a useful word, with no obvious synonym, and the pedants’ objections to it always seemed to me a little silly. bc

    1. It seems to have come from military language, and I guess moved into civvy street after WWII. So the pedants are now about 60 years too late. I don’t buy the “cannot be misspelled” argument though – once a spelling based on a loan word is established (liaise from liaison), that’s the right spelling. I’ve seen reports that Microsoft Word’s spell-checker had “liase” and not “liaise” in the past (fixed in or before Word 2003), and this accounted for lots of misspellings by those who trusted it.

  13. My first ever completed times cryptic.

    Slightly amusing for me were 1ac, 4ac, 13dn, and 9dn, as I had a car accident this morning probably I was travelling to fast as we were late.

    Guessed house of keys, and had to look up cess and etagere

    Still, woo!

  14. A very easy 20 minutes, without rushing. Nothing here that needed much explanation, but very enjoyable after Saturday’s which I struggled with somewhat! COD 11ac.
  15. 28mins with no mistakes & no aids. Probably spent 4 or 5 minutes in the middle trying to justify OVERDOSE at 26 before giving up and sticking it in anyway. I still can’t see it – can anyone help?

    House of Keys rang a vague bell, but only as the Manx parliament. The Ulysses reference was lost on me entirely. I’ve not heard of etagere but got it from the wordplay, similarly the cess in recess. Surprising to see such similar construction in both 1ac & 1dn, I thought. A lack of imagination on the setter’s part?

    COD probably 13, but I liked the &lit aspect to 9.

    1. O + VERD[OS]E for “take too much”
      i.e. O (= round) + OS (= over size or very large) contained in (= having … load) (Cape) Verde, a republic rather than a cape off the NW coast of Africa.
      1. Thanks, now you’ve explained it it seems entirely obvious. Just a mental block on my part I guess.
  16. I found this pretty easy. In fact after I’d filled most of the top half and bits of the bottom in 8 minutes (rare for me) I wondered if it wasn’t perhaps too easy, but I found completing some of the downs somewhat harder, so ended up taking 18 minutes. RICHTER and CAR BOOT SALE eluded me for a while “saloon-keeper” was nicely deceptive.
  17. Bang on 20 minutes with a guess for the cess bit of recess and slowed down by having a mind blank on k?o?s. Fairly enjoyable but nothing out of the ordinary.
  18. I was pleased to get an easy one today as the paperboy delivered the Torygraph by mistake so I did not get a crack at the Times crossword till lunchtime. I was slightly surprised to learn that Dorothy has a surname but that did not stop me from getting Toto.

    When I was writing computer software in Paris, I discovered that French programmers tend to call scratch files Toto, in the same way that English programmers tend to call them Fred.

    I had never heard of the Lesser Antilles but the Antilles bit was obvious and the rest could be got from the anagram. Fortunately I did not have to rely on my knowledge of Ulysses to get the House of Keys as I have not got further than page 50 in three attempts.

    My heart sank when I came to the last word with a checked letter pattern of ?E?E?S but, like others, I managed to deduce the obsolete cess.

  19. 9:30. Pretty easy but still enjoyable. Like others I had to hit and hope that -CESS was correct. Struggled working out OVERDOSE and CLOSE SEASON but did eventually. CAR BOOT SALE gave me the biggest smile and gets my COD nod.
  20. Just over eight minutes today with the last of those eight pondering RECESS/ETAGERE.

    I went through exactly the process Peter describes above to get the ‘down’ component, having plumped for RECESS on the same vague recollection vinyl1 relates.

    I see the issue of blogging/not blogging all the clues has come up, and from memory the rationale is (also) to preserve Mr Murdoch’s revenue stream from the premium rate phone line. It would be interesting to know if that facility is actually much used….?

    Neil

  21. 10:29 .. which felt disappointing after flying through all but the south east. ETAGERE and RECESS were the main culprits, the latter being mostly guesswork.

    A jaunty sorta puzzle, though. Toto was, of course, not only the pooch in the memorable movie, but the name of the 1980s supergroup who pretty much summed up everything wrong with American rock music (though, dammit, I can still hear at least three of their songs).

  22. 8:40 – good start to the week. I thought I’d lost my crossword gene last week, but it’s because I decide too quickly that I can’t do a clue, flit around and lose time.

    My last one was OVERDOSE. I was sure there would be a C or a NESS in there for Cape, but wrote it in thinking ‘take too much’ was overdo and ‘very large load’ was the definition of overdose and the rest was something I didn’t understand. I now realise ‘take too much’ is the def, round is ‘o’, cape is ‘verde’ (as in Cape Verde Islands) and very large is ‘os’ – outsized, a crossword favourite – loaded into it.

  23. I’d guess around 10 minutes for this pretty straightforward puzzle. I think CESS meaning tax came up in a recent Listener, I remember seeing some discussion of it at the Crossword Centre. I knew that the HOUSE OF KEYS was the Manx parliament, so that was easy, as vinyl1 predicted.

    Favourite clue SLIPSHOD, last one in was RICHTER, but only because I went back to it last after finishing off the bottom right.

  24. Very easy 20 minute stroll after golf in a gale. Like most others didn’t know ETAGERE but an easy guess. CESS is almost a cliche. Too many solved from some very obvious definitions.
  25. Pretty easy overall, some even too easy, but I fell into the House of Reps trap, having never heard of the Keys/Manx Parliament, and I needed Onelook to get CAR BOOT SALE even with all the checkers. The rest was unremarkable, although I was held up a bit dealing with RECESS/ETAGERE. All that took about 20 minutes. Regards.
  26. 16:15 – a very gentle start to the week. A steady solve with only one pause of about 2 minutes when only three or four clues remained. Last in was RICHTER.

    CESS is a fairly common tax in barred crosswords and ETAGERE pops up in that arena fairly frequently as well, so I wasn’t held up by the SE corner. I liked the clue to 24a – CLOSE SEASON.

  27. Found this one solvable – c. 30 mins which is very fast for me. Guessed at in toto – have never heard of Dorothy Gale. I got House of Keys without too much difficulty – from IoM.
    Hope microsoft has corrected liaise. Always had to persuade admin that my spelling was better than microsoft’s!
  28. …are so called because the mountainous ones (not the flat one, Sal) have green tops where they graze the Atlantic rain clouds. Nothing to do with “cape” in the sense of a headland, as the setter seems to imagine.
    1. Well, at least some websites think they’re named after the Cape (headland) which is the westernmost tip of Africa – now called Cap Vert but presumably Cabo Verde in Portuguese.
  29. It must have been relatively easy for me to finish by this time, though I did resort to a bit of help on ETAGERE and RECESS.

    Until coming here, I wasn’t too sure of the wordplay for RICHTER, CAR BOOT SALE or OVERDOSE, though I now see that I probably should have been.

    Could some one explain 23ac? Is it (n)OVA? How does ‘losing face’ = ‘without the n’? Thanks.

    1. Just from face = “front part of something” – typically your head, but the same meaning is there in “coalface”.
      1. Thanks Peter. I thought it must be something like that, but it just didn’t quite tally with my understanding of the word ‘face’, which I just tend to think of as a flat(ish) exposed surface. Coming from a mathematical background, I’ve frequently encountered the word in the context of 3-D geometry, where the ‘faces of a cube’, for example, need not necessarily be at the front. This concept of ‘face’ translates reasonably well to ‘coalface’, ‘rockface’, ‘clockface’ etc and I suppose I’ve always taken the front-of-one’s-head idea as a specific definition all of it’s own.
  30. Fairly straightforward and my quickest for ages, but didn’t time it – finished all but two clues over breakfast. Got recess, but had to look up meaning of cess. Worked out etagere from wordplay but had to look up what it meant. House of keys one of early ones in. Still struggling with Saturday’s…….
  31. @ vinyl1: The original gave us the Lee-Enfield rifle and the Royal Enfield motorcycle …

    … and, together with Brno, the Bren gun.

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