Sunday Times Cryptic No 4875, 3 XI 2019, by Robert Price — Trilling info from a whistle-blower!

I heartily enjoyed my time with this, which time I, as always, can’t put any number on. I forget what was on my SmartTV last Saturday as I leisurely strolled through the clues, but you can bet I was not trying to beat the clock. And I’d go so far as to claim that the puzzling might even be done much more quickly this way than it would if I started timing myself—since that would make me neurotic (all at once).

I was thinking that the one thing this excellent, exceedingly entertaining puzzle lacked—besides an &lit (but I’d rather have none at all than a “semi”-one, to tell you the truth)—was a bit of unusual, borderline-Mephisto vocabulary that I could discover for the very first time through the art of decryption. Here the most interesting word, taken in isolation, seemed to be 4. But I was overlooking 16, which I had gotten quickly but which might be rarer, and which even, though its derivation is a bit obscure, may tie in (as I have just now discovered while doing the final edits here) with clue 19.

Seeing X and Z on opposite corners, and W and Y sticking out on the edges as well, made me wonder if this was a pangram, and, lo, so it is.

I do (anasargm)* like this, and italicize anagrinds in the clues.

ACROSS
 1 Times writing about a festival (4)
XMAS — Times is X, with M(A)S. Too early!
 4 In shops, woman and daughter hold hands? (10)
STEVEDORES — ST(EVE)(D)ORES They work in the cargo holds of ships. I don’t think the quirk is necessary, but it may have helped someone. The word entered the languge (says Wikipedia) through its use by sailors, and started as a phonetic spelling of estivador (Portuguese) or estibador (Spanish).
 9 Cheated and voted twice (6-7)
DOUBLE-CROSSED — This week’s Public Service Announcement: Election fraud is actually very rare in the United States. CD (though no quirk) along with the straight one.
10 Film director needing an ending went overboard (4,2)
FELL IN — I’ve seen a few flicks like that. FELLIN[-i] Wins my nod for COD.
11 Design surrounding emblem is oddly vulgar (8)
PLEBEIAN — PLAN corralling the odd letters of EmBlEm Is, which latter element is very cleverly disguised
12 Academic rooms for recording university dons (8)
STUDIOUS — STUDIO(U)S Bob has a knack for inverting the usual grammar in the cryptic to throw one off the track. (I’ve recorded in my apartment, but that’s not why it’s called a studio.)
14 It’s lucky the old lady has somewhere to sleep (6)
MASCOT — MA’S COT This is more of a strong hint than a definition, strictly speaking, though it’s a stronger hint than what passes for a definition in 19. (I’m not complaining.)
15 Agreed to a German weapon after it’s cut a gemstone (6)
JASPER — ”Agreed[,] to a German,” JA + SPE[-a]R
17 Girl this writer recalled in prayers (8)
ROSEMARY — ROS(ME<=)ARY
19 With less fluid they sometimes contain peas (8)
WHISTLES — (with less)* Although I fancy myself a musician, I never knew that the little stone-like object found inside whistles that warble is called a “pea.”
21 When to start to seek first aid (6)
ASSIST — AS, “when” + S[-eek] + I(1)ST, “first”
23 Put an end to bank sheltering stray dog (6,7)
SCOTCH TERRIER — SCOTCH, “put an end to” + T(ERR)IER
24 Like one separating people making spiteful remarks (10)
ASPERSIONS — ”Like,” AS + PERS(I)ONS
25 An Olympian retired somewhere in Egypt (4)
SUEZ — ZEUS<=”retired”

DOWN
 2 Insect turning up, say, before dark (5)
MIDGE — EG, “say” + “dark,” DIM <=”turning up” (I think this works; EG turns up “before” DIM does.)
 3 Repulsive gang getting in the middle of police (7)
SQUALID — SQUA([-po]LI[-ce])D
 4 Brilliant appearance of sub, over in Tottenham, cut short (9)
SPLENDOUR — ”Tottenham” SPUR[-s] with LEND, “sub” + O(ver) inside. After biffing, I somehow got to the bottom of the parsing with little trouble. I must have first Googled “Tottenham.” The relevant UK slang sense for “sub” was found in Cambridge, “to lend someone money until they can pay it back to you“—although in Collins the definition closest to that is a bit different: “to grant or receive (an advance payment of wages or salary).”
 5 European heads, with coolness, finally admitted leaks (7)
ESCAPES — E([-coolnes]S)CAPES
 6 Scratching insect makes mammal run off (5)
ELOPE — [-ant]ELOPE
 7 Removing the head destroys fresh seafood (7)
OYSTERS — ([-d]ESTROYS)*
 8 Labour aim always to be heard (9)
ENDEAVOUR — END, “aim” + “ever,” audibly
13 Trains carrying sixty-eight empty boxes (3,6)
TEA CHESTS — TEACHE(S[-ixty-eigh]T)S
14 Mother cares awfully about sons being butchers (9)
MASSACRES — For or against? MA, “mother” + (cares)* around SS, “sons” (In the surface, the possessive-with-gerund rule seems to be, as too often, flouted. Ma cares about their being butchers, right?)
16 Old coin shop is to let, but not all of it (7)
PISTOLE — Hidden. Dictionaries tell you first that it was the French name for a Spanish coin, but add that the same name was also applied to other French and European coins. Though the term is “of uncertain origin,” it is said to probably come from a Czech word meaning WHISTLE.
17 Very dry port overwhelms Italian food (7)
RISOTTO — RI(SO TT)O, “dry” being TeeTotaling. Here’s that inverted syntax again.
18 Good-looking girl is entertaining weirdos (7)
MISFITS — MIS(FIT)S
20 Tastes defeats (5)
LICKS — DD
22 Ages used up wrapping Eastern garment (5)
SAREE — E(E)RAS<=”used up”  Variant spelling of “sari,” which is, incidentally, an eastern garment.

14 comments on “Sunday Times Cryptic No 4875, 3 XI 2019, by Robert Price — Trilling info from a whistle-blower!”

  1. Tough but enjoyable. LOI ELOPE took me 5 minutes, for some reason. POI STEVEDORES, FOI DOUBLE-CROSSED. I biffed SPLENDOUR, and never bothered to look up Tottenham; DNK sub. I’ve got ‘COD’ scrawled in the margins by 4ac, 3d, and 6d; I think I’ll go with 4, for its ‘hold hands’.
  2. ….got FELL IN, as Corporal Springer used to order his motley crew in “The Army Game”, and there was no crisis in SUEZ. I had little trouble in negotiating this very enjoyable puzzle.

    DOUBLE-CROSSED had me thinking “second Referendum”, and I still feel cheated. As far as the impending election is concerned, my enthusiasm bypass kicked in before campaigning even commenced, so it’s no surprise that….

    FOI DOUBLE-CROSSED
    LOI XMAS (as voted for by turkeys)
    COD STEVEDORES (“hold hands” was a smile-raiser)
    TIME 11:08

  3. Another enjoyable puzzle from Robert;quite tough in places and it took me a while to get to LOI JASPER after PISTOLE (unknown and helpfully hidden).FOI was XMAS.
    I know I’m not the only person to take out a border terrier at 23a and return with a Scotch terrier; this delayed me quite a lot as the first answer fits the clue quite well and I’ve never heard anyone speak of a Scotch terrier. No matter, I got there in the end.
    I’m not a fan of variant spellings of foreign words but it seems to me that SAREE is not the hardest word, and it was clearly clued.
    David
  4. I was 55 minutes on this. I confidently put in BORDER TERRIER for the dog which fitted the cryptic pretty well, only for the TEA CHESTS to tell me that was wrong. But a Scottie has always been a Scottish Terrier in my life, so it wasn’t until LICKS dawned that it all clicked into place. I’m giving COD to WHISTLES for the ear worm. In these days of VAR (what a farce that is) it seems it would be better if the ref didn’t have a whistle. I thought that when I was playing too. Another excellent puzzle. Thank you Guy and Robert.
    PS Sorry, David. I was composing while you posted.

    Edited at 2019-11-10 08:09 am (UTC)

  5. A fine crossword this, very enjoyable. Really, i think the ST crosswords have gone from strength to strength over the last few years.
    As regards the Scottish terrier, I have never been strong on the various manifestations of Scots, Scotch and Scottish .. but according to Wikipedia, the Scotch Terrier is the parent breed of all Scots terriers including the Scottie dog. “Many dog writers after the early 19th century seem to agree that there were two varieties of terrier existing in Britain at the time—a rough-haired so-called Scotch Terrier and a smooth-haired English Terrier.”
    I understand our esteemed setter lives North of the border so am happy to defer to his judgment in the matter.
  6. An hour exactly, so possibly a little tougher than normal. FOI 1a made me wonder about a pangram from the first letter, and it might have come in handy for LOI 3d SQUALID had I not already applied the “see a ‘U’, try a ‘Q'” rule to get SQUALID anyway. Enjoyed 19a WHISTLES, especially the image of the dried-up pea.
  7. 9:26. No problems with this one. I don’t know enough about the varieties of terrier to have a problem with 23ac.
  8. 21:06.”Lovely!”, I wrote at the top of my copy. LOI XMAS… I agree. Too early for that! I liked WHISTLES and OYSTERS best.
  9. I found this on the tougher end of the spectrum taking 51:20 to reach a successful conclusion. Didn’t know PISTOLE but spotted the hidden. STEVEDORES took forever to see, as did my LOI, PLEBEIAN. I had enough crossers to avoid BORDER TERRIER, but hadn’t heard of SCOTCH in that connection. SAREE was also new to me. An enjoyable puzzle to do battle with. Thanks Bob and Guy.
  10. 25:12 for me so I didn’t find this too difficult but as usual it was highly entertaining fare with loads of delightful touches. Hold hands was a particular favourite as was with less fluid.
  11. This was a most enjoyable puzzle which occupied me for 46 minutes.

    FOI 25ac SUEZ

    LOI 22dn SAREE

    COD 4ac STEVEDORES

    WOD 11ac PLEBIAN

  12. Isn’t this the currency of the Three Musketeers? I recognise PISTOLES from some historical novel. (Dumas? Rafael Sabatini?) It’s bugging me now. I may just bemaking a false connection between muskets and pistols.
  13. Thanks Bob and guy
    Lovely puzzle as we are accustomed to from this setter with lots of clever charade type clues throughout. Thought that STEVEDORES had a cracking definition.
    Stumbled on the parsing of SQUALID – not getting past SQUAD being the ‘police’, wondering how ‘gang’ gave LI and not helped by there being a ‘Li Gang incident’ in China in 2011 (an interesting read on Wiki).
    Had similar reservations initially with SCOTCH TERRIER but never went down the BORDER TERRIER path.
    Finished in the SW corner with the interesting WHISTLES (and the peas in them) and PISTOLE (a very cleverly hidden clue).

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