Sunday Times Cryptic 4941, by Robert Price — circling the square

Nothing much very convoluted here, but all quite engaging for the smoothness of the surfaces and the uncontrived craftiness of the wordplay. Not saying I ripped thru this in 5, but I got the first two right off, followed by the long anagrams, and most doors opened up pretty easily once I pressed against them. Even my LOI, 12, would have been solved rather earlier, if only I hadn’t carelessly entered O instead of U in the square crossing 13after, mind you, unscrambling the anagram perfectly in the margins of the paper. I don’t know if you’ve had many similar experiences, but the idea that one of my confidently entered answers might be wrong is often the last thing to occur to me, let alone that my precise pen somehow committed a “typo.”

I indicate (as AM rang)* like this, and italicize anagrinds in the clues.

ACROSS
 1 Offensive person’s laugh taken in good part (9)
ONSLAUGHT — Hidden
 6 Like an angel taking her away to a higher power (5)
CUBIC — C[-her]UBIC
 9 Making sterile cities thrilling with paintings (15)
ANTISEPTICISING — (cities + paintings)* …A mouthful, when you could simply say “sterilizing”! This clue is tied with 7 in this week’s Creative Anagrind contest.
10 Close pet, nearly shot (6)
SULTRY — SUL[-k], “pet, nearly” + TRY, “shot”
11 Lake creator’s imported fish (8)
FLOUNDER — F(L)OUNDER I decrypted this immediately, spotting the formula in operation, so I guess it’s simple enough, though the word order would most naturally be taken to indicate that the definition is “Lake,” with (a word meaning) “creator” containing “fish”—or even that “Lake” takes in “creator” to make “fish”—rather than what’s really going on here.
13 Cooked up risotto to cover cold meat (10)
PROSCIUTTO — (up risotto + C)*
14 Fly emperors from the east to the west (4)
GNAT — TANG<=“from the east to the west,” a Chinese dynasty
16 Wait in the same place endlessly (4)
BIDE — [-i]BIDE[-m]
17 Body part very softly separating water (5,5)
ADAMS APPLE — ADAM’S A[PP]LE
19 Stacks fruit in vehicle (8)
RICKSHAW — RICKS, “stacks” + HAW, “fruit”
20 Capital, one lost from Bronze Age reconstruction (6)
ZAGREB — (brz age)*
23 What ensures voting success? Manipulating voting age! (7,8)
WORKING MAJORITY — WORKING, “manipulating” + MAJORITY, “voting age” Ask me about the filibuster in the US Senate! (Just not here.)
24 Fibre one’s covered with tar mostly (5)
SISAL — S(I[’]S)AL[-t]
25 Papers retained by lovers of old trains (9)
EXPRESSES — EX(PRESS)ES

DOWN
 1 Stones hit ought to be turned up (5)
OPALS — SLAP, “hit” + O, 0 or “ought” <=“turned up”
 2 Finally get even light on Mozart manuscripts? (6,3,6)
SETTLE OLD SCORES — SETTLE, “light” + OLD SCORES, “Mozart manuscripts,” e.g.
 3 Remove unrealistic summary (8)
ABSTRACT — Triple definition!!!
 4 Good sport suppressing a yawn (4)
GAPE — G(A)PE Took a moment to think of PE as “sport,” though the answer seemed obvious from the definition. I knew the “a” couldn’t be a… dangler!
 5 Waltzers keep this prime title when dancing (6,4)
TRIPLE TIME — (prime title)*
 6 Mark of intelligence in part of crossword coterie (6)
CLIQUE — CL(IQ)UE
 7 They let you construct bridges until PM rages about one (8,7)
BUILDING PERMITS — (bridges until PM + I)*
 8 It’s smoked fish, alien in name (9)
CIGARETTE — CI(GAR)(ET)TE
12 Court medic feeding Queen a fish (10)
QUADRANGLE — QU, “Queen” + (A) + DR, “medic” + ANGLE, “fish” This is certainly the most complicated clue here, indicating that “medic” is swallowed by “Queen a” and only after all that comes “fish.” I think we may have caught our limit of fish this outing.
13 Such moving events may call for a few drinks (3-6)
PUB-CRAWLS — CD
15 Tribal chief’s story that goes on further (8)
SAGAMORE — SAGA, “story that goes on”… and on + MORE, “further”
18 Mistake overturned without a single observation (6)
ESPIAL — LA(I)PSE<=“overturned”
21 In Newport, lads brought up really tough (5)
BOYOS — SO, “really” + YOB, “tough” <=“brought up” I didn’t realize this is an especially Welsh term, nor that there is a town in Wales with a name only seven characters long, and easy to pronounce.
22 Sucker lacking passion and someone to seduce him? (4)
VAMP — VAMP[-ire, “passion”]

30 comments on “Sunday Times Cryptic 4941, by Robert Price — circling the square”

  1. QUADRANGLE gave me trouble because I took ‘court’ to be QUAD at first rather than the definition. And ‘sucker’ gave me LAMPREY, and I wasted time trying to figure out how to delete REY. LOI SULTRY.
  2. Thanks, Guy. I liked your comment about a 7-letter Welsh town! I also agree with you about the anagrinds but for me “thrilling” is the winner.
    As my time indicates, I had no problem with this.
    My favourite was VAMP. It reminded me of “Hard-Hearted Hannah, the vamp of Savannah, GA.”
    Hoping for better results today in the Prada Cup off Auckland.

    Edited at 2021-02-14 01:10 am (UTC)

    1. If I’d thought just a bit longer, I would have at least remembered Swansea, home of the Bard of Cwmdonkin Drive.
            1. The only way to “read” Under Milk Wood is to get the inimitable Richard Burton to do it for you.
              1. I have heard a little of his reading and I thoroughly agree with you. His reading of the Gerard Manley Hopkins poem “The Leaden Echo and the Golden Echo” is quite mesmerising.
                1. It may not be legit, but a search on Youtube will find you a couple of versions with Burton as the main voice.
        1. DAMN, I meant to write the Rimbaud of Cwmdonkin Drive.
          The disordering of the senses and all that, you know…
  3. Thanks for the blog and comments, Guy, and thanks Robt for the puzzle. Me, no problem sorting out the somewhat convoluted Flounder wordplay, but I stared at the obvious and direct Gape for minutes before seeing the cryptic. Go figure. I liked Adam’s Ale and Cubic.
  4. Excellent crossword. Lovely surfaces. Enjoyed ONSLAUGHT and ZAGREB. Had no problem with FLOUNDER: creator’s (creator has) imported lake.
    1. No problem, as I said, but the word order more readily suggests you want a word for “Lake.” Oh. wait, I already said that too… Sorry
  5. lots to like, especially the abstract triple definition at 3d. Noticing it was a pangram didn’t help. It never does.
    37’20”
  6. Done while while watching cricket and then taking daughter’s dog for a walk in a blizzard. I saw CUBIC straightaway and thought that I was going to be on wavelength, as I often am with Robert. Not this time. I’ve no idea what I would have taken in exam conditions, but I suspect it would have been the hour. Great clues throughout with a MER at the outrageous ANTISEPTICISING. LOI SULTRY. COD to SETTLE OLD SCORES. Thank you Robert and Guy.
  7. This kept me amused for around an hour and was good fun. LOI QUADRANGLE not helped by having the I and U the wrong way round in PROSCIUTTO. Silly because I know the word well enough. Liked TRIPLE TIME and CLIQUE. Thank you Guy and setter.
  8. Very nearly 20 minutes, so nicely chewy exercise for a Sunday. I believe I took a lot of time convincing the wold that ANTISEPTICISING was a thing, and the world wasn’t paying attention.
    I like the pangram quality, and the rather evocative pair of down clues that gave TRIPLE TIME VAMP. That’ll be this.
    1. I don’t envy many folk nowadays but someone who can play like that, and looks like that to boot, is defo enviable
  9. 14A: it matters little, but my guess is that “Emperors from the east” is the intended definition, and “to the west” is the directional indication.
    1. I went back and forth on that. Had that first.
      Seemed the Tang were in the East, rather than “from,” but, as you say, matters little.
  10. First one in was 23a which was obviously “turning eighteen” -that rather messed things up.
  11. After my first session of about an hour, I had nine left.
    I’d put Settle the Scores at 2d which I needed to unwind and CUBED at 6a which meant that CIGARETTE was my LOI.
    ESPIAL and SAGAMORE were late entries and in the end it only took me another 15 minutes to wrap it up.
    Enjoyed it.
    COD to PUB CRAWLS for the memory. Also liked CLIQUE.
    David
  12. 15:09 including about 2 1/2 minutes at the end on SAGAMORE. The usual good stuff from Robert. I particularly liked CUBIC, PROSCIUTTO, CLIQUE and the triple ABSTRACT. 13D had me wondering wistfully when we will be allowed to get together in pubs again. In time for the Sloggers and Betters pub crawl later this year, I hope. Thanks Robert and Guy.
    1. Indeed John — I’m hoping to make my Sloggers and Betters debut this August !

      The usual quality offering from Robert, and I was only briefly delayed by having to alpha-trawl my LOI.

      FOI CUBIC
      LOI SULTRY
      COD SETTLE OLD SCORES
      TIME 11:44

  13. I struggled mightily with this and ended up using aids to finish. From other comments it doesn’t seem that anyone else had a similar experience. Maybe I was just out of sorts when I tackled the puzzle. Looking back I can’t see too much that would normally have troubled me – the clue for sultry maybe, the ought to indicate O in opals, DNK the tribal chief but saga and more weren’t that hard to get.
  14. I don’t have a time for this because I seem not to have submitted it so when I went to check today the timer was still running. About 15 minutes I think.
    A fun one. Like a couple of others I caused myself a bit of a problem by bunging in SETTLE THE SCORES but the ham soon put me right.
  15. Thanks Bob and guy
    Found this pretty solid going taking a number of sittings to get it out. Only a couple of new terms in that fancy word for sterilising and SAGAMORE, so the real test came from the well-disguised definitions and the tricky word play.
    Did enjoy piecing together QUADRANGLE and pleased to stretch BIDE out to IBIDEM to get the logic part of that clue.
    Finished in the SE corner with EXPRESSES (which shouldn’t have taken that long), VAMP (helped a lot by recognising the pangram needed a V) and BOYOS (a new term and some Welsh geography learnt along the way too).

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