Sunday Times 4763 by Jeff Pearce

I found this quite tricky at the time, although having now written up the blog it seems a fairly gentle puzzle in hindsight. No obscurities, although the drink at 3d may be off the radar of those who have led a more sheltered life than me.

The image conjured up by 9a struck me as having come straight out of the pages of Viz – super clue, I thought. 18a seemed a bit odd in that (as far as I could see) there was nothing to indicate the anagram that provided the answer, and those of a pedantic disposition (not that I’d ever expect to find any in this august forum!) might raise an eyebrow at the cluing of the ‘son’ component of 17d. But, all good stuff.

Grateful thanks to Jeff for an enjoyable puzzle, and in particular for introducing me to Yo-Yo Ma, a name to cherish (and I’m sure he’s a damn fine cellist too, not that I know much about such matters).

Definitions underlined: DD = double definition: anagrams indicated by *(–): omitted letters indicated by {-}.

Across
1 Sort out stylish clothing provided (8)
CLASSIFY – CLASSY (stylish) going around (clothing) IF (provided)
5 Prepare crumble to go round cakes (6)
TORTES – SET (prepare) ROT (crumble) reversed (to go round)
9 Some nuns have nasal whiskers to deal with? (8)
UNSHAVEN – Hidden in (some) nUNS HAVE Nasal. Thanks for sharing that, Jeff…
10 Smooth representative lacks energy — getting old (6)
LEGATO – LEGAT{e} (representative) loses its final E (lacks energy) but gains an O (getting old)
12 Assist old golfer carrying putter at the finish (5)
SERVE – SEVE (old golfer – the great Ballesteros) gets an R included (carrying putteR at the finish)
13 Joint put behind tap (9)
DRUMSTICK – STICK (put – as in “let’s stick that box in the corner”) + TAP (drum)
14 Upset girl’s been chosen (12)
DISAPPOINTED – DI’S APPOINTED (girl’s been chosen)
18 Theatres rely on private health here (6,6)
HARLEY STREET – *(THEATRES RELY). As I see it there is nothing to signpost the anagram (I don’t think “on” performs that role, but maybe I’m wrong). However, once a few cross checkers were in place the answer jumped out readily enough.
21 I sanction changing conductor (9)
TOSCANINI – *(I SANCTION). The maestro has made a number of appearances in crosswordland of late.
23 Managed, say, flipping 1 across (5)
RANGE – RAN (managed) + EG reversed (say flipping)
24 Polish street behind this square (6)
HONEST – HONE (polish) with ST coming after (street behind this). The honest/square equation puzzled me to start with, but I think it’s the ‘square deal’ / ‘fair and square’ kind of usage.
25 Musical cellist is after satisfactory note at heart of show
(8)
OKLAHOMA – MA (cellist – the delightfully named Yo-Yo of that ilk) ‘is after’ OK (satisfactory) + LA (note) + HO (heart of sHOw)
26 Heartless old warden gets the bird! (6)
TURKEY – TUR{N}KEY. The old word for a warden / jailer loses its middle letter (heartless)
27 Civic dignitary put tree on island (8)
ALDERMAN – Following the setter’s instructions, we put ALDER (tree) on MAN (island)
Down
1 Broadcast vulgar programme for students (6)
COURSE – Sounds like COARSE (broadcast vulgar)
2 Maintain a sizeable lock-up (6)
ASSERT – A + TRESS reversed (sizeable lock up). I’d never had occasion to consider the relative sizes of locks and tresses, but apparently a tress is a long lock.
3 Drink and a snack following ramble (9)
SNAKEBITE – BITE (snack) ‘follows’ SNAKE (ramble), giving the cider/lager mix favoured by people out to get hammered on the cheap, and which is banned in quite a lot of pubs. Years ago I worked in a pub near the Tower of London which often received coach parties of tourists. One such group was a club outing from South Wales, whose preferred tipple was their version of a snakebite which included a measure of sweet sherry being added into the mix, probably the most bizarre drink I was ever asked to serve (aside from the bloke who used to order brandy with lime).
4 Lace if under a petticoat can be a revealing thing (8,4)
FREUDIAN SLIP – *(IF UNDER A) – with “lace” signalling the anagram – + SLIP (petticoat)
6 Begins work on measurements for printers (5)
OPENS – OP (work) ‘on’ ENS (measurements for printers, an en being half an em). One of those odd bits of knowledge needed by solvers on a frequent basis, but which few ever have the opportunity to use outside of crosswordland, I’d imagine.
7 Bit of cereal found in red wine? That’s rubbish! (4,4)
TEAR INTO – EAR (bit of cereal – as in ‘ear of corn’) – inside (found in) TINTO (red wine). I think this works through “that’s rubbish!” being a kind of cryptic definition by example.
8 Farm animals, regularly handled in this enclosure (8)
STOCKADE – STOCK (farm animals) + every other letter (regularly) of hAnDlEd
11 One causing inflation with some money for bread (12)
PUMPERNICKEL – PUMPER (one causing inflation) + NICKEL (some money). For canapés with a difference, I can recommend spreading horseradish sauce on pumpernickel and topping it with a bit of sauerkraut and a slice of smoked eel – gorgeous!
15 Sadly one trainee beginning to booze gets drunk (9)
INEBRIATE – *(TRAINEE) – with “sadly” indicating the anagram – and with I (one) and B (beginning to Booze) also being added into the mix.
16 Gossip when buffet and tea are served in court (8)
CHITCHAT – HIT (buffet) and CHA (tea) are ‘served in’ CT (abbrev. court)
17 Nosey type taking in young male inmate (8)
PRISONER – PRIER (nosey type) ‘taking in’ SON (young male). If one was to pick nits, one might query ‘young male’ for ‘son’ – as all of us blokes retain the status of ‘son’ until our dying day. But hey…
19 Put wise students here? (6)
INFORM – DD (the second being “in form”)
20 Save damaged retina (6)
RETAIN – *(RETINA) with “damaged” signalling the anagram
22 American land found in sea passage (5)
AISLE – A (American) + ISLE (land found in sea – which by definition an isle is)

31 comments on “Sunday Times 4763 by Jeff Pearce”

  1. I have a video recording of Yo Yo Ma playing all six of JS Bach’s Cello suites back to back from memory at the Albert Hall. Magnificent stuff!

    Edited at 2017-09-17 12:20 am (UTC)

  2. Moving on to the crossword, I took 40:22 over this one, which I seem to remember enjoying quite a lot. HARLEY STREET and DRUMSTICK gave me a laugh. Liked 1a too. No idea where I started or finished though. 9a brought back happy memories of Jake Thackray’s song, Sister Josephine(What a Funny Nun You are), which I, coincidentally, have heard twice recently at Folk Club and festival venues in Saltburn. One of our members at Saltburn Folk Club had the privilege of having Jake as one of his teachers! He looks back extremely fondly on the memories. Thanks Jeff and Nick.

    Edited at 2017-09-17 12:30 am (UTC)

  3. I’d forgotten about this one–one of a few that I couldn’t get to while on the road–and was reminded by seeing Nick’s blog title. I agree with Jack about ‘rubbish’ (“That’s” is perhaps otiose, but also perhaps makes the clue more misleading.) And I felt (feel) as Nick does about HARLEY STREET. I also wondered if ‘warden’ was a typo/misspelling for ‘warder’; I thought the warden was the boss of the prison, where a turnkey/warder was simply one of the guards. Didn’t know SNAKEBITE–and wondered for a while if ‘shakebite’ was a word–and would be happy to have remained ignorant.
  4. I think the definition at 7dn is just ‘rubbish’ as a verb meaning to ‘tear into’, ‘knock’ and ‘criticise’.

    Edited at 2017-09-17 04:54 am (UTC)

  5. I struggled with this a lot compared with Dean’s offering today, and actually resorted to aids eventually for my LOI at 5ac. A common enough foreign word, but I just hadn’t considered it.

    I have a problem thinking of DRUMSTICK as a joint as anatomically it’s not one and in cookery/butchery a joint is usually expected to be a larger cut such as one might roast for a traditional Sunday lunch. If somebody told me we were having a joint for dinner and then presented a single drumstick I’d be peeved to say the least! However the meaning is in the traditional sources, just about, so the setter is off the (butcher’s) hook, so to speak.

    I agree that there doesn’t appear to be an anagrind at 18ac. I considered ‘on’ in the sense of ‘working’ as often appears in wordplay, but that would be an indirect indicator which I don’t think is allowed, although who can be sure when it comes to the Sunday Times?

    I’m not sure what’s your perceived problem with SON for ‘young male’ at 17dn, Nick. Aren’t all young men somebody’s son whether or not the father is still around or even known? [Edit: I’ve re-read and understand your point now, Nick, however the specific doesn’t exclude the general. We get ‘boy’ for Al and Ted etc etc almost every day]

    Edited at 2017-09-17 05:16 am (UTC)

    1. Thanks Jack, I take your point regarding the specific not excluding the general. I hadn’t thought of it that way as I was hung up on the overall idea (particularly with the dense cluing that generally confronts us each Sunday!) of every word in the clue making a specific contribution – in which case it seemed to me “young” was a bit odd.
  6. … though I finished in 42 minutes with every clue parsed. I have to confess though that OKLAHOMA came from cryptic and knowledge of shows before the cellist remembered. There’s not much danger of you laughing at my jokes too much. I know no anatomy, so I wasn’t sure if LOI DRUMSTICK was a joint or not. I didn’t think it was something you could smoke. Never drunk a SNAKEBITE as lager hadn’t been discovered in my drinking days and cider made me morose, but surely the alcohol content would have been only the average of the two drinks, so why ban it? COD FREUDIAN SLIP. Enjoyable puzzle. Thank you Nick and Jeff.
  7. 50 mins with toast and lime marmalade – which is over par for a Jeff Pearce. I thought he had tried to include some more tricky, less Jeffy, clues – which might account for trying to use ‘on’ as an anagram ind in 18ac. Also for ‘lace’ in 4dn?

    I think ‘son’ is ok – and rubbish for ‘tear into’. But 7dn did hold me up as I took a while to see the ‘set rot’ reversal in 5ac.

    Thanks Nick and Jeff.

    PS If I’m not around next week, it is because I am in Skye; mostly eating fried breakfasts.

  8. I suspect I’m asking something everyone else in the world knows the answer to, but is it a glitch on the new Club site that prevents me seeing my answers in this puzzle? Or am I doing something wrong when I get a blank grid?

    I made a mistake and I’d like to know what it was.

    1. A number seem to have reported this fault. For one thing, you do apparently have to view the answers on the same machine you solved and submitted it on. If you did that, and review it with full screen on and its still blank, then yes, it’s a glitch
      1. Thanks, Jerry. I’m using the same computer and browser (a Mac and Safari), so I guess I’m in the unlucky camp for the moment.
        1. I have a MacBook and used to use Safari for the crosswords but after I started encountering problems, the tech people advised changing to Chrome or Firefox. I now use Firefox and only very occasionally do I get a blank grid, as you have had.
  9. I have “enjoyable” scrawled on this one, next to my time of an hour and ten, so it must have been tough but fun. The difficulty is underscored by my FOI being 27a ALDERMAN; clearly I wasn’t getting anywhere fast when I started.

    Thanks Nick, for explaining a few of my biffs and question marks. I’d heard of Yo-Yo Ma, but I had enough letters to biff OKALHOMA without him, for example. I also biffed 18a, so luckily I didn’t need the anagram or its apparently-missing indicator…

    LOI 22d, and apparently my COD, as it gets the only scribbled exclamation mark. WOD SNAKEBITE, taking me right back to my misspent university career drinking “snakebite and black” at the Courtyard pub in Coventry along with the rest of the goths.

  10. 24:39. I found this really hard. As is so often the case, I can’t really see why now.
    In 18ac ‘on’ has to be the anagram indicator if there is one at all, but I don’t understand how it can be.
    My recommendation for pumpernickel in canapés or anything else is to throw it away and use something edible.
    1. I just thought to check the list of anagram indicators in the “Word Lover’s Companion” section of Chamber’s 12th Edition, and “on” is included. Not sure whether that’s in the sense I suggested above though (i.e. working) or perhaps there’s a more direct meaning that hasn’t occurred to us so far.
      1. Chambers has ‘on the way to being drunk’ which I guess is another candidate. Not a very good one IMO.
    2. I have found that, if you put Lollo rosso between two pieces of pumpernickel bread and press together, the Lollo rosso takes up less space in the recycling bin.
  11. No time for this one done over the course of a leisurely day out but it felt quite challenging. Saw Yo Yo Ma’s performance of the cello suites at the Proms on tv so the parsing of Oklahoma was no problem. Same QMs as others at joint for drumstick in 13ac and at on as an anagrind in 18ac.
    1. They did Oklahoma! at the Proms this year too, and it was on TV. John Wilson conducted the original Broadway orchestations by Robert Russell Bennett.

      Edited at 2017-09-17 12:32 pm (UTC)

  12. Re. the banning of the snakebite, apparently (and I’ve no idea of the validity of the “science” here!) combinations of fruit based and grain based alcoholic drinks pack more punch than the arithmetic average of the two drinks would suggest – plus they are more likely to result in a “liquid laugh” if drunk to excess (hence its unpopularity with bar staff). So I’m told.
    1. I remember being told not to mix the grape and grain, ie beer and wine. I’ve just done some research and apparently there’s no evidence that mixing drinks is a problem but the amount of ‘congeners’ in them is. Congeners are acetone, acetaldehyde, tannin and the like. The darker the drink, the more the congeners. I can’t find out where cider is on the scale. To be honest the articles didn’t convince me and I suspect there’s something in it.
  13. Re: 9 across not having anything to indicate an anagram, l didn’t think it was an anagram, but rather a container clue, indicated by the word “some.” “N + unshaven + asal,” rather than “nuns have” anagrammed.

    Sorry to be so late, but just did the crossword this morning (super busy week). Now looking forward to the explanation for the clues l didn’t get…thanks, as always!

    From Phyl, Toronto, Canada

  14. Oops, sorry, should have checked the explanations first, before being hasty to comment (l did check all the comments first; l’ll know better next time!). I see that 9 across, “unshaven,” had already been clarified. Apologies, and thanks again for this great blog and the parsings, from Phyl, Toronto, Canada

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