Quick Cryptic 735 by Izetti

My attempts at predicting how difficult others will find any given Quicky have generally been lacking in accuracy, however I’m quietly confident that I will be in tune with the consensus when I say that this is a hard puzzle. We have several unusual words and a few parsings that may not spring immediately to mind, the whole producing a satisfying mental workout. Thanks to Izetti for creating a serious challenge befitting the first Quicky of 2017, and best wishes to all for the coming year.

The grid is also a pangram (i.e. it contains all letters of the alphabet at least once). Seeing rarer letters such as a Q or Z early on may put you on the scent of a pangram, which may then help with filling in subsequent answers, but bear in mind that there are many more non-pangrams than pangrams so this kind of thinking may produce dead ends too often to be a sensible tactic. Though I may just be saying that as I don’t think I have ever both spotted a likely pangram AND used that knowledge to solve a recalcitrant clue.

The puzzle can be found here if other channels are unavailable: http://feeds.thetimes.co.uk/puzzles/crossword/20170102/21483/

Definitions are underlined, {} = omission

Across
7 Taunt from joker, no good person at heart (4)
JEERJE{st}ER (joker, no good person at heart, i.e. JESTER (joker) without ST (good person, i.e. saint) in the middle (at heart))
8 Cool-headed way in which Greek character protects queen (8)
TRANQUILTRAIL (way), in which NU (Greek character, i.e. the 13th letter of the Greek alphabet) surrounds (protects) Q (queen)
9 Weaver as lowest of the low? (6)
BOTTOM – double definition, the first referring to Nick Bottom the weaver from A Midsummer Night’s Dream
10 Longs to have time with partners at table (6)
YEARNSYEAR (time) + NS (partners at table, i.e. North and South in card games such as bridge)
11 Row right after cup game? (4)
TIERR (right) after TIE (cup game – referring to, e.g., a football match in a knock-out competition)
12 Big horse eats a medium soft plant (8)
SAMPHIRESHIRE (Big horse), around (eats) A + M (medium) + P (soft), to give (Chambers): “An umbelliferous plant (Crithmum maritimum) which grows on sea-cliffs”, where umbelliferous is the adjectival form of umbellifer, which means (Chambers): “Any plant of the Umbelliferae family, with umbels and divided leaves”, and an umbel is (Chambers): “A flat-topped inflorescence in which the flower-stalks all spring from about the same point in an axis”. Phew.
15 Chemical compounds got from crumbling deep pits (8)
PEPTIDES – anagram of (crumbling) DEEP PITS, where a peptide is (Chambers): “Any of a number of substances formed from amino acids in which the amino group of one is joined to the carboxyl group of another”
17 A female making comeback, this person is celebrity (4)
FAME – reversal (making comeback) of A + F (female), + ME (this person)
18 Foreign minister — namely, one to accompany Her Majesty (6)
VIZIERVIZ (namely – short for the Latin videlicet) + I (one) + ER (Her Majesty), to give (Chambers): “A minister or councillor of state in various Muslim states”, i.e. you need to read the definition as a minister who is foreign rather than a foreign minister à la Boris Johnson
21 Sailor dispatched, not here (6)
ABSENTAB (Sailor) + SENT (dispatched)
22 Support team that is 9 (8)
BACKSIDEBACK (Support) + SIDE (team), to give us another word for the answer to 9 across (BOTTOM)
23 Wickedness not recorded after revolution (4)
EVIL – reversal of (after revolution) LIVE (not recorded)
Down
1 Some idle drunk to play music (8)
MELODISE – anagram of (drunk) SOME IDLE. Not a common word, with only ~26,000 Google hits, though it’s not much of a leap to get there from melody.
2 Old vehicle beginning to rust in pit (6)
CRATERCRATE (Old vehicle) + R (beginning to rust, i.e. the first letter of the word “rust”)
3 Strange deities, about a thousand, put into list (8)
ITEMISED – anagram of (Strange) DEITIES, about M (a thousand)
4 Like something wicked making one irritable? (4)
WAXY – double definition, the first requiring you to interpret “wicked” as something with a wick (e.g. a candle) rather than evil, and the second an old informal British meaning. Tough clue, especially as I hadn’t heard of the second meaning.
5 Put an end to game (6)
SQUASH – double definition
6 Appearance of soldiers capturing island (4)
MIENMEN (soldiers) around (capturing) I (island). Pronounced the same as “mean”. Chambers and Collins both describe this as a literary usage, with Collins’ trend graph showing a sharp peak in 1779.
13 Communications taking long time after disorder (8)
MESSAGESAGES (long time) after MESS (disorder)
14 Minor act excited one sort of poet (8)
ROMANTIC – anagram of (excited) MINOR ACT, to give a term used to describe poets such as Keats and Shelley
16 Awkward time with Richard (6)
TRICKYT (time) + RICKY (Richard)
17 Encourage replanting of forest (6)
FOSTER – anagram (replanting) of FOREST. Maybe not a standard anagram indicator, but it suits the surface reading well.
19 Monk initially entering an hour after midnight as man of prayer (4)
IMAMM (Monk initially, i.e. the first letter of the word “Monk”) in (entering) IAM (an hour after midnight, i.e. 1 AM)
20 Engineers at home making check (4)
REINRE (Engineers) + IN (at home)

53 comments on “Quick Cryptic 735 by Izetti”

  1. As this is my first DNF since QCs began I have to say that I don’t think this qualifies as a Quick Cryptic. There are simply too many difficult words and/or meanings for the level of skill normally required. All but one of them might have been okay on its own but not when taken together and the puzzle is viewed as a whole.

    The worst example is 4dn where there are some 50 words that fit the checkers and when running through them, none of them obviously fits either of the definitions in the clue. Waxy / irritable is obscure, and like our blogger I don’t recall ever meeting it before. The wick-ed /wicked trick (which I have seen before) can work but doesn’t really in this context as things with wicks don’t have to be waxy, for example oil lamps and stoves. Okay, so it’s by example and we have a question mark, but even so. We’re supposed to be encouraging people here.

    Edited at 2017-01-02 05:43 am (UTC)

    1. I came here feeling a bit cross but seeing your comments has calmed me down. If you think it was too hard to qualify as a QC then I am happy to agree!
  2. DNF (my first ever too!) due to 4dn – (pangram required!?) WAXY as ‘irritable’ not in Chambers.
    (Entered the language between 1850-1855 Random House Dictionary)

    (LAZY (idleness being a sin – thus wicked and irritable – old British slang but not in Chambers either)??)

    I totally agree with Jack – somewhat perverse.

    COD 4dn WAXY WOD Izzzzzzzzzzzzzzetti

    1. To be fair to the setter I have to acknowledge that the required meaning of WAXY is in all the usual sources.

      COED has: Brit. informal, dated -angry or bad-tempered

      Collins has: Brit. informal, old-fashioned – bad-tempered or irritable; angry

      Chambers has (under Wax 3): Brit. informal, old-fashioned – bad-tempered or irritable; angry.

      Apart from my misgivings about the “wicked” thing as mentioned above my concern is not that the setter set it, but that the editor(s) let it through without intervening on the behalf of novice solvers.

      And a footnote to vinyl’s comment: Yes, I did find today’s 15×15 easier than this.

      Edited at 2017-01-02 05:41 am (UTC)

  3. This is my first DNF of the year; I’ve thrown in the towel a couple of times, but never with such force as this time. No way I’d have got WAXY, and as Vinyl says, TRANQUIL, SAMPHIRE, & SQUASH are complexly clued. (Ironically, I knew SAMPHIRE –it’s mentioned in ‘King Lear’ [‘one who gathers samphire–dreadful trade’]– but the only big horse I knew of was the Clydesdale.) Perhaps not the best start to a new year of Quickies.
  4. … Izetti! My word, you are are a grumpy lot this morning. Hoping 2017 will improve for you all!
    1. And a Happy New Year to you too, Izetti. Thanks for commenting and for the pleasure your puzzles have given throughout 2016. On this one, I note that all the contributors so far are experienced solvers (and some of us are TftT bloggers). It will be interesting to read what the newbies have to say later!
  5. As with most above a DNF due to WAXY, although now I think about it, I may have come across it in Stalky & Co. Samphire is awful stuff, I was once made to pick it at Burnham Overy Staithe with my wife’s family who thought it was delicious; it’s not. Didn’t parse TRANQUIL or JEER so 2017 can only get easier from now on, hopefully. Thanks Izetti for a toughie and blogger for having to explain far too many.
    1. Samphire, I assure you all, is most delicious: whether from Freiston Shore near Boston, Gibraltar Point near Skegness – or the The Ivy in London.

      Beware of tyros and novices and slavery at Burnham Overy Staithe, Norfolk!

  6. At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, the first DNF for a Quickie ever for me too. Yes, 4d did for me as well, not helped by my lack of confidence with TRANQUIL – but what else could it be?
    Best wishes for the New Year to everyone and especially the bloggers and setters (even Izetti!)
  7. As a novice I found this extremely difficult and DNF. Not a good start to the new year! Thought I was getting better but having read other comments, it was not just me!
  8. Was thinking that maybe hubris had got to me after last Friday, but not just me….

    Put all but NE in after an average time, then completely stuck. Dnfed after about 45 minutes, first time ever, alphabet checks unable to come up with TRANQUIL, SQUASH or WAXY. Even with word lists did not parse TRANQUIL and like others not able to get WAXY, and if I’d put it in it would have been a guess.

    Happy New Year all, including Izetti. The only way is up!

  9. … is on the whole at the easier end of the spectrum IMO, though there are a couple of uncommon words/references that may not be familiar to all. The cryptic jumbo is also quite mild.
  10. …eventually. Probably my slowest QC finish at over 22 minutes. Like others I struggled wth the NE corner. It didn’t help that I put RISE in for 6dn and took ages to work out why TRANQUIL was right. WAXY my LOI only after realising I needed the X to complete the pangram. A good test for experienced solvers – thanks Izetti, but I hope it doesn’t discourage the neophytes.
  11. I agree with the comment above – samphire is delicious – and when young and fresh can be eaten raw – otherwise steamed with a touch of vinegar. Excellent accompaniment to any fish dish.

    As for the crossword – our friend Izetti does like to give our little grey cells a good work out. I for one need it – if mine had been functioning better I would not have put melodies at 1dn which then made the chemicals at 15ac impossible. 4dn waxy – I was thinking candles – may have been possible if all the rest had been completed and I’d had a paper version – in this case the pangram would have been clear and with just w and x left 4dn would have fallen.

    Ifs buts and maybes – another DNF here.

  12. The first DNF for me since the QC began. I normally take about 5 minutes.
    With 4d left to complete, as an old hand I should have spotted that only W & X were left for a pangram. This is 15×15 stuff not the QC.
  13. I failed completely on the top RH corner and so instead of plugging away resorted to the blog. Glad I did as I would never have got there by myself. I enjoyed the rest of the crossword and there were many answers I got from the wordplay rather than coming up with a possible answer and then trying to parse it.
  14. Again my first quickie DNF. The main puzzle was easier! Sorry, but that was too difficult for a quick cryptic.

    River27

  15. Well, I finished, but it took several sessions, WAXY being the LOI.

    Yep, easily the hardest Quicky we’ve seen. But kudos to Izetti for sticking his head up in the comments above!

    Thanks Izetti and Jack, and a Happy New Year to you both.

  16. …because I had all but 4d in good time (about 10 mins). I spotted I needed the X for a pangram and considered waxy but neither definition made much sense. I suspect that would have caused just as much comment in the main puzzle
    1. That meaning of waxy seems to have come up just once before in the Times, in the main cryptic in April 2010. The blogger for that puzzle, a two-time Times Crossword Championship winner, hadn’t heard of it.
  17. I don’t time my QCs any more but this was definitely the hardest I can remember, and it may have taken me longer than the main puzzle. WAXY in the irritable sense was vaguely familiar but I didn’t enter it until I had the TRANQUIL/SQUASH crossers.
  18. DNF for me too. WAXY = irritable? NU? never heard that one, and I am a mathematician. SAMPHIRE. Heard of it, but thought it was a fish not a flower.
    Ah well, welcome to 2017. Things can only get better.
    PlayupPompey
    1. I think this is the third Quicky that has featured nu (all by Izetti, but the other two were over a year ago). It is well worth knowing the entire Greek alphabet – it looks like xi is the only character that hasn’t come up in the last few years in one or other Times crossword. I’ve encountered nu in real life as the symbol for a neutrino in particle physics, as well as the symbol for vega in mathematical finance.
  19. Crumbs! That was the toughest Quickie ever. I usually complete these in 7 to 10 minutes but this one took 45 minutes with 15 of those spent on an alphabet trawl to come up with RACY instead of WAXY. PEPTIDES held me up for a while as I originally had MELODIES for 1d. I agree a lot of these clues would be considered difficult for the 15×15 puzzle. I managed to construct TRANQUIL correctly and that finally gave me SQUASH which held me up for ages too. Thanks Mohn2 for the explanations and to Mr Izetti(I think!)
  20. Yes, that was a hard one. An hours work had everything bar the NE parsed. Then I remembered mien from an earlier puzzle. That helped with yearns and squash, and gave me the confidence to enter my CoD tranquil and parse it. That just left 4d. . . 30 mins later I still couldn’t do 4d despite having a list of -a-y words. Thought about racy, but eventually stumbled on the obscure meaning of waxy. Only then did I see the wick-ed connection. And a happy new year to you as well, Izetti. 😊 Invariant
  21. Today feels like a Saturday to me and today’s QC was not unlike the Saturday puzzles I attempt each week.
    My FOI was 20d followed by 23a as I tried to find a way in. It was a bottom up solve for me: the bottom half done in 12 minutes; another 13 to get the NW and finally to the blank NE. LOI was 4d and I strongly suspected a pangram at that stage. This made me more confident in Waxy; the “wicked” device I have come across a couple of times and I just assumed there must be another meaning of waxy.
    So I managed to finish in 43 minutes; quite a long stint, but it was worth it.
    HNY to all. David
  22. Glad to be in good company. It certainly didn’t help to put in murder for squash! DM
    1. I’m hoping that this was simply a case of you bunging in that answer based on it fitting one half of the clue, rather than that murder is a game in your household!
  23. I finally gave up after an hour, defeated by 4d. The NE as a whole was extremely tricky with each clue fighting me all the way. Thanks to mohn for the blog and explaining the parsing of 7 and 8a which also eluded me.
    I’m off for some light relief with the 15×15!!
  24. Sorry folks I may have misjudged things when assessing this one. Oddly, i test solved it very quickly, but maybe ignored one of my own dicta that just because it’s easy for an old hand ….,

    The odd harder one is I am afraid inevitably going to sneak through occasionally.

    RR

    1. No need to apologise – my vocab. has been extended by one word. Just don’t do it again!
      horryd Shanghai
  25. With all due respect to him, I don’t think the editor needs to apologise — and I really don’t think I need to either. Neither of us sought to be particularly difficult, and you can’t always tell what a solver will struggle with, even after years of setting or editorial experience. And surely some fluctuation in the level of difficulty will add spice for some. We can’t always deliver old chestnuts (and the wicked candle was nodding to a hoary old idea!), even in the QC. That said, I just hope the next one from Izetti gives less trouble.
  26. This was only my second attempt at the QC and I completed just over half of it. However reading the comments has made me feel happier and I will persevere. Many thanks to the blogger for the clear explanations and to all the other commenters.
    1. Well done, Judith! A bit of a baptism of fire for you with this one but, if you keep trying the puzzles and reading the blogs, then even the tough ones will become fully solvable.
  27. The issue with this is not that it’s hard, it’s that its the *Quick* Cryptic which is designed, I thought, to get solvers started on cryptics. This is the latest in a series of QC’s over the holiday season which have been really hard for beginners. If the QC is for 15×15 solvers to have a warm-up, then fine. If it’s marketing the whole idea of cryptics to younger solvers, then to my mind it completely misses its mark, not least because it arrived on a bank holiday.

    Although not specifically relevant to this crossword, I also wonder if the use of old fashioned language means I am too young for the QC and Cryptic.

    As ever, thanks to bloggers who are a constant encouragement to join the cryptic solving (and appreciating) community.

    1. I don’t think either the editor or setter are likely to pop in again on this thread so I will have a little ramble instead.

      Even with the main cryptic, there can be quite a range of difficulty, and I think in general that meets with approval amongst the solving community – sure, there will be grumbles about obscure words and tenuous definitions and the like in the harder puzzles, but that’s always going to be the case when setters are catering for an audience of differing abilities and experience. It’s good to be stretched every so often (though not TOO often, from the point of view of confidence and entertainment).

      It’s similar for the Quick Cryptic. Granted, this particular puzzle was a toughie, but I would hope that anyone trying to get into crosswords would be sampling the Quick Cryptic over a number of days, which I think would show that the general difficulty level is pitched about right. (Having said that, I didn’t do many Quick Cryptics over the holidays so I can’t comment on whether there has been a string of hard ones – if there has, I would guess it’s a coincidence rather than a deliberate ramping up of the level of difficulty, though the thinking behind today’s might have been that people may have more spare time on a bank holiday.)

      I wouldn’t worry too much about old-fashioned language in either the Quicky or the main cryptic. You’re much more likely to encounter words that are perfectly current but which might not intersect with your particular interests (e.g. my heart sinks whenever plant names come up).

      Don’t be disheartened about a puzzle that may seem over your head – it’s that process of learning new words, learning new wordplay, and seeing how a difficult clue should be parsed that enables people to improve. Whatever frustration/annoyance/hopelessness you may feel at the time, seeing the answers and how they should be arrived at will have made you a better solver, and you’ll be ready to apply that knowledge next time it’s needed. Hope that makes some sense!

Comments are closed.