Book bargain – Collins English Dictionary

(or maybe NOT such a bargain – see the text added at the end)

Folk based in the UK might find a trip to W H Smiths worth their while – they’ve got the current a version of Collins English Dictionary on sale with 75% off, which makes it £6.25.  They’ve also got 50% off the Concise Oxford, so that’s down to £12.50.

Current Amazon UK prices are £14 for Collins and £13.75 for the Concise Oxford.

Significant features of Collins compared to my old 1991 edition:

  • Quite large print – if the smallish print in most dictionaries troubles you, this is an advantage.  Otherwise it just feels like a way of making a small book into a big one.
  • less information – picking a random page, the 1991 version follows 33 defs for “blind” with 20 “blind something entries – blindage, blind alley, blind date, binder, blinders, blindfish, blindfold, Blind Freddie, blind gut, Blindheim, blinding, blind man’s buff, blind register, blindsight, blind snake, blind spot, blind staggers, blind stamping, blindstor(e)y, blindworm.  The 2009 edition just has 19 defs for blind and 6 other words – blind alley, blind date, blindfold, blind man’s buff, blind spot, blindworm.
  • 2009 version seems to  have dropped Cockney rhyming slang – the relevant meanings for butcher’s, barnet and “apples and pears” have been dropped
  • geographical and biographical entries are gone – no Churchill, whether as PM or Canadian place-name.
  • There’s a 128-page grammar guide in the middle and 47 pages of “WOORD POWER & FACT FINDER” at the end – standard “back of dictionary” stuff like simple charts of the animal plant kingdoms, periodic table, music notation, and some more xwd-useful stuff like wedding anniversaries, mythological characters and creatures

Probably worth the £6.25 as a guide to what Times setters may inflict on you, but as a dictionary, it seems a pretty poor effort.  For someone buying one fairly cheap current dictionary for use for xwd and other purposes, the Concise Oxford looks worth double the money – more information (close to the old Collins on the “blind something” words) in a smaller book.

A look back at Amazon reveals the reason for the reduction – a new “30th anniversary edition” of Collins is out in September. A closer look at the copy I bought suggests another – the words “Home edition” in smallish print on the book’s title page. This may mean it has shorter content than the full version. The paper cover, incidentally, is IDENTICAL to the one for the version with the Amazon link above except for the presence/absence of the words “in colour”, but the ISBN is different and the cover price is £25 not £35. Collins do seem to have a knack for producing multiple versions that look confusingly similar – another reason why I won’t be spending full price on a Collins for a very long time.

9 comments on “Book bargain – Collins English Dictionary”

  1. I bought a £6.25 copy from WH Smith a while ago. It is weighty and is I suspect very similar to Pete’s version, since it also has 19 blind definitions followed by the same 6 blind-words. But it doesn’t have “Home edition” in small print on the title page, merely “Collins English Dictionary” with the Collins logo at the top left (and this page is repeated, for some reason).

    The dictionary seems to be largely useless: whenever I am discussing anything on Fifteen Squared and Collins is referred to, the so-called Collins definition bears no resemblance to my version’s. I am reluctant to mention Collins.

  2. Slightly off-topic here, but anyone looking for a comprehensive dictionary should take a moment to email their local library. Many, if not most, of the larger ones have access to the OED’s online version, and will provide library-card holders with remote access codes. I’m still hoping to win a Collins off the Guardian’s Saturday crossword one of these days…
    1. This may not apply in all cases, but my log-in code is simply the library card number plus a prefix. Your local library service’s website may have the information without e-mailing a librarian.
  3. Do buy the ODE (not the OED) for a dictionary of comaparble size that includes names of people. I think it’s a better dictionary. Time was when I worked at OUP that I embarrassingly found Collins better than Oxford — but not now. I think Collins lost it for me when they took the names of people out. I am afraid that rebranding and repackaging is all part of the modern publisher’s game, by the way. DFM
    1. As a good dictionary for all purposes except the barred-grid puzzles needing Chambers, ODE is excellent.

      Modern publishers need to remember that rebranding and repackaging can go too far, and that content and clear differences between different books actually matter. I would not have paid full price for a Collins English Dictionary because of the dropping of biographical names, and wasting £6.25 on today’s wild goose chase has just made doubly sure. I thought my 1991 Collins was headed for the local charity shops, but this new one will probably go there instead. And I won’t be rushing into buying much else from Collins either.

  4. It is better for a publisher to get rid of old stock at a bargain price if customers can be found — this is better than pulping and helps to squeeze out a bit more profit. They really can’t be blamed for that, and for a lot of customers the bargain will be a genuine one. Don’t blame Collins for that — but do blame them for being unwilling to put in the extra effort to include biographical entries that need a lot of work between editions to be updated.
    1. I have no objection to bargain prices for old stock. My gripe is with Collins’s unwillingness to make the differences between their various products clear. Here are the covers in question – the home edition and the real thing. Would you notice that the Home edition was different if just looking at that book?
  5. I use the 10th edition Chambers that I bought for £5 from Amazon, thanks to a tip-off here from Peter. So far I haven’t found a word that is only in the 11th edition, not the 10th, though one day no doubt.
    If that is insufficient, via the Kent Education website any member of Kent Libraries can access a remarkable range of reference sources online, including OED, Britannica, Whos Who,DNB, Credo Reference etc etc.
    Never have liked Collins. For me it has always lacked authority
    1. I also have the 10th edition Chambers with access to the online OED when I need it. Also agree with Peter that selling old stock at reduced prices is fine – I’m sure most looking for an everyday dictionary would be more than happy with the cut-price Collins in Smiths – but not clearly differentiating between editions is not fine and risks frustrating customers. Dictionary buying is based largely on loyalty to a particular publisher, so care should be taken to avoid damaging the brand through carelessness.

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