26014 Not just a bog standard crossword

Knocked off in 20.47, including a last minute change of heart over the ending of 9 across, where I suspect we might see a few error messages today. A decent array of clue types on display, with just the tiniest hint of schoolboy naughtiness. Not the sort you’ll find in our dear sister, the Sunday Times, you understand, but just enough to raise a sort of quarter eyebrow. Seismic.
No hidden messages of any kind, as far as this eye can see, and not much GK needed either, with the possible exception of 9ac. Even there, the cryptic is almost entirely helpful, barring that little ambiguity at the end. Here are my scratchings.

Across

1 GOT UP  Rose
Or made to look good, as in got up in a fancy waistcoat. An easy double definition to start the ball rolling
4 HECTORING  (may be) threatening
The man: HE. About: C. to: TO. Call; RING. Assemble. Sit back and admire.
9 ANNELIDAN  ‘Wormy’
“A class comprising the red-blooded worms, having a long body composed of numerous rings”. Of or pertaining to. The tricky word in the clue is “fellow”, which can give DON, DAN or DEN, I initially chose the first, as being a university fellow, but settled for the second before submitting. ANN is the female, ELI the setter’s favourite priest, probably the one in 1 Samuel 3, and they precede your choice of D?Ns
10 DUPER  Trickster
The political party is the DUP, founded by the late Ian Paisley, so be careful what you say about it. It’s the fourth largest party in the House of Commons. ER is ‘Er in Windsor. Don’t they make a lovely couple?
11 DESERT  Wilderness
Dessert, what we plebs call pud’n loses one of its S(ons). A little bit of Yoda speak this clue is.
12 DISABUSE Enlighten
A bishop gives you AB, wrap it in DISUSE for lack of employment
14 MORAY FIRTH  Scottish water
The good reverend would mangle this as “for ay mirth”, hence forever laughing. Cue linguistic discussion, for Scots would pronounce the original as Murray (rhyme, more or less, with hurry), and not like the eel of the same spelling. But then Spooner was an Oxford don, so probably cared little for the idiosyncrasies of mere locals and said it his own, setter friendly way.
16 TEAR  Sign of sorrow
Ignore the capital letters, and RIP is also tear. Ignore the pronunciation.
19 NAPE  (touching) this
NAP is sleep, after a fashion, one end of eiderdown is E, If you sleep face down, and are lucky enough to have a partner who doesn’t hog the bedclothes, an eiderdown might just touch the nape of your neck.
20 DEPRECATES Criticises
Cuts gives you the word “depreciates” from which you must remove the 1/I. I’m more familiar with the “fall in value” meaning beloved of car dealers, but I guess it’s a close enough cousin.
22 PROMOTER Advocate (noun)
Pro motor. Tee hee.
23 CUDGEL  club
A rather nasty image of a clue. Cud is the semi-digested stuff ruminants shift between stomachs via the mouth, and a Sloaney girl is a GEL.
26 EMAIL message
I is collected by a reversed LAME for “without excitement” Jones minor, give and example of “I is” as correct grammar. Well done.
27 PLATITUDE (that) says nothing new
We’ve waited a long time for a straight anagram, and here it is, of “Detail put”.
28 SHELTERED  Protected
Inset L(ieutenan)T ERE (before) into SHED, the mythic gentleman’s retreat from her that hogs the duvet and a “building away from house” if he’s got any sense.
29 TRYST meeting with another person
Or (apparently) a cattle fair. Aim is TRY, street ST.

Down

1 GUARDSMAN One…
A neat &lit, that is an anagram of DRAMAS and GUN
2 TINGS  Sharp sounds
Another bit of Yodaspeak. Write in THINGS, but ignore the H(ard). Tings, for me, are what Althea and Donna wore with their pants.
3 PALFREYS  horses
Perhaps a lesser known horse, but palominos doesn’t fit. PALS around Norse goddess FREYA without her A(ce)
4 HIDE  keep quiet about
The content of outlandisH IDEa’s
5 CONSISTORY  Court
Of the ecclesiastical variety. A prisoner, here a CON, haS ‘ISTORY or background in the East End (of London, natch)
6 OLD MAN Master
Arab location supplies OMAN. insert L(or)D
7 IMPRUDENT  ‘Making the wrong choices’
For the second time, the setter generously puts the definition in inverted commas. A naughty kid is an IMP, and RUDE is the next naughty. NT is clued by books. There are much ruder bits in the OT, as any imp know.
8 GORGE  Ravine
…or pig. No idea why this one took me so long.
13 TIMEKEEPER  a punctual one
ServanT IM Employing is an example of something that keeps time. How clever is that?
15 REPROBATE rogue
Agent is REP,  sack is ROB (in a Viking sort of way) and had is ATE. Any agent who phones me at stupid times asking impertinent questions about my status and lifestyle is already a reprobate in my book. Barely needs the rest of the clue.
17 RESILIENT Tough
The anagram of LISTENER is indicated by “puzzles”, and it needs an extra 1/I for completion.
18 ACQUAINT Get to come to know
Prize winner of “clumsy definition of the day”. A C(onservative) is followed by QUAINT, pleasingly (if you like that sort of thing) old-world. At least the setter didn’t chuck in the egregious E.
21 TOILET  Room….I must occupy
A bit &littish, this. TO LET is “available from landlord”, crying out for the inserted I. Tell me you’ve never been tempted.
22 PRESS Crowd
(Made up of) people who gather outside royal hospitals for expected news when they could just as easily watch it at home.
24 GAUDY party
You may have forgotten that gay once just meant cheery, just as straight just meant not crooked. The first letters of University Dean are inserted for a rather old fashioned party. Quaint.
25 CARD heart
Briefly wondered whether we were wandering into cardiac territory, but the ? indicates this is a definition by example. It’s also half a CARDinal.

37 comments on “26014 Not just a bog standard crossword”

  1. 41 minutes, but with ‘annelidon’, so done by science, as is always on the cards. Thanks for explaining 13 and 15a, which I’d left questions marks against and never got back to.
  2. Fortunately my memory isn’t completely shot yet, so I remembered DUP and ‘Sloane(y)’. On the other hand, the only Norse goddess I could come up with was Frig–the same lady, of course–and it wasn’t until I thought of PALFREYS that I remembered her other name. Flung in ‘merry’ (mirth) at 14ac, then ‘Murry’, finally thought of MORAY. Started with O at 9ac, but that didn’t look right; finally looked it up to make sure. Is there a reason for the quotation marks at 7d? Thanks for explaining 13d; I was wondering what sort of household employs a timekeeper.
    1. I wondered about this too, and the best I could come up with was that the setter was gently lampooning the fact that this phrase has become something of a social worker cliche in recent years. Some support for this hypothesis may be found in the cotext, where ‘kid’ – once (still?) perceived to be a favourite word of ‘do-gooders’ – occurs.

      Which leads us very nicely to the Not the Nine O’Clock News football hooligan sketch…

  3. Count me as an ANNELIDON. I figured fellow indicated DON rather than just a male name. I was wrong.

    Also put OLD NAG instead of OLD MAN (and thought at the time that Arab and Old Nag, while both clue horses, don’t seem quite equivalent). Meant to go back since I wasn’t sure about it but then forgot to and never did.

    Around an hour I think although I started in a cafe and finished at home so the time keeping is not very useful on the club timer since I just shut my computer and walked home leaving the clock running.

  4. Though I enjoyed this as much as yesterday’s fine puzzle. Don’t know how GAUDY in this sense passed me by. Must have gone to all the wrong universities.

    The hidden message is a reference to EMIL MOANE, one of the most boring members of the NEO ARM of the French Gémissement School. His most famous work is the semi-autobiograhical novel Le Grand Moane.

  5. 3dn was a disaster. With PAL____S in place, I jumped to PALERMOS, based on the song UNA PALERMO BLANCA, which must have been about a white horse. Except it’s UNA PALOMA BLANCA and it’s about a dove.

    In my defence the song was adapted for a frequently-played ad for El Caballo Blanca, a dancing horse show outside of Perth. Not much of a defence, I admit.

    Thanks setter and blogger.

  6. This was a complete disaster as far as my solving time was concerned as a result of starting it when I was too tired to think having just struggled through Izetti’s Quickie which I reckon was harder than some 15x15s of late. That’s not a criticism, btw. Anyway I bunged in a few answers here and promptly nodded off, then on waking a bit later I tried again and did the same. Then this morning with nearly 2/3 left to complete I struggled through each remaining clue very slowly.

    The unknowns along the way were CONSISTORY and ANNELIDAN and I failed to spot the hidden element at 13dn.

    Ref 11ac, if I remember U and non-U correctly it’s the plebs that say “dessert” and the toffs that say “pudding”.

    Edited at 2015-02-05 09:25 am (UTC)

  7. Not my cup of tea this one.

    I think 9A is unfair. “Fellow” and DON are synonyms so the cryptic is very ambiguous on a word many will never have come across before.

    Likewise 14A where z8 is spot on regarding the Scots pronunciation. At 20A I don’t equate “depreciate” with “cut” – it means reduce or fall in value. And so on.

    Finished in 20 minutes but left feeling irritated

    1. Jimbo, I completely agree that using fellow rather than another “man” word was unfairly misleading.
  8. 20:50 … had the same last minute change of heart (Don to Dan) as you, Z8, but sympathise with any who didn’t. Not sure about that one, or about this use of depreciate’. On the plus side, I did enjoy the Spoonerism.

    I’ll admit I didn’t parse REPROBATE. Too clever for me.

  9. 9m, but with ANNELIDON. It’s a devilish clue but I don’t think it’s really unfair because the clue clearly calls for an adjective and ANNELIDON looks very much like a noun. The only thing that prevented me from seeing this was carelessness.
    Not sure about ‘cut’ for ‘depreciate’.
    Thanks for explaining TIMEKEEPER, which I failed to parse.
  10. 25 min.: I’m with keriothe, so there was no doubt about ANNELIDAN. Also I didn’t parse TIMEKEEPER either, so couldn’t see what the servant was doing.
  11. After failing to finish yesterday’s after 50 minutes I was pleased to complete this in 42. Some very nice clues, though I didn’t understand 13 until coming here. I agree with keriothe that 9 has to be adjectival, so a DON ending is unlikely. ‘Annelid’ is a very common word in barred cryptics, so not unusual for solvers of those.
  12. 26 mins but with the “don” mistake at 9ac. I really don’t like relatively obscure words clued as ambiguously as that one was. I spent about the last 5 mins on 20ac and you can count me as another who isn’t overly convinced by “depreciate” and “cut” as synonyms. I’m certainly having an up and down week.
  13. 18:48 and as the rest of the week a steady grind. I associate GAUDY with the educational establishment also known as South Midlands Poly. I don’t believe that we have such things on the Cam.
      1. I think that’s what bigtone means by ‘South Midlands Poly’. They’re a bit chippy, these Cambridge types, so it’s generally best to let them have their little bit of fun. 😉
        1. Almost certainly a gag penned by Richard Curtis and delivered by Rowan Atkinson, anyway….
        2. Anyone who wants to hear Gaudeamus Igitur should listen to the majestic finale to Brahms’s Academic Festival Overture. Written to thank the University of Breslau for an honorary doctorate, the University hierarchy expected a stirring tribute to academia. In fact they got a very skillful interweaving of student drinking songs of which GI is the last and best known.
  14. A real struggle here at 33:20 and I fell into the don/dan trap on which I cry foul.

    Do I detect the hand of John Henderson at work?

    I needed the (fortunately unambiguous) wordplay to get consistory and gaudy and didn’t see how timekeeper worked.

    I’m not convinced that “that comes with” is anything other than padding in 16.

  15. Reasonably straightforward puzzle. I am afraid I resolved the ANNELIDAN versus ANNELIDON versus ANNELIDEN conundrum by looking up “annelid” in the dictionary. Otherwise I would probably have plumped wrongly for ANNELIDON.

    I liked MORAY FIRTH, but accept that the Spooner/homophone device is very much a matter of taste. I’m prepared to allow the setter more leeway on pronunciation than some others.

    On the other hand, I share the irritation with DEPRECIATES = “cuts”. As a transitive verb, which is required here, “to depreciate” means either “to disparage”or “to lower or reduce the value” of something. The Chancellor in his budget might be reported as having “cut the price of petrol” nut not, I think, as having “depreciated the price of petrol”.

  16. Afraid this was a fail for me – since I couldn’t figure out the first word of 14 and seemed to recall a MURRY FIRTH so figured Spooner was all up in the furry mirth. Oh well…
  17. About 30 minutes, ending with REPROBATE and DEPRECATES, both from definition only, couldn’t parse them. Now seeing z’s explanations, I should have seen the parsing of REPROBATE, but the ‘rob’=’sack’ meaning never entered my mind. I was stuck on either a bag or getting fired. And if DEPRECATES derives from ‘depreciates’, I would never have figured that out. ‘Cuts’ wasn’t carrying me to that word, never would, I think. But the checkers for both led me to the correct entries. Oh, I also went with ANNELIDAN via the ‘looks more like an adjective’ approach. Regards.

    Edited at 2015-02-05 06:56 pm (UTC)

  18. 14:54 for me.

    I think this could be the setter (one of the setters?) who I feel is inclined to stray just a little too far from the straight and narrow: “threatening” (even qualified by “may be”) for HECTORING, “cuts” for DEPRECIATES, and “puzzles” as an anagrind all sit a little uncomfortably.

    On the other hand I’ve no complaints about ANNELIDAN. Like others I bunged in ANNELIDON based on the wordplay, but it didn’t look right so I quickly changed it to ANNELIDAN, which did. I’m not sure that I consciously thought about the noun v. adjective argument, but it certainly seems a valid one for those unfamiliar with the word.

    1. I’m curious about your misgivings re “puzzles” as anagram indicator, Tony, since an anagram is effectively a sort of puzzle in itself. Am I missing your point?
      1. If you’re saying “puzzles” is a noun, then I don’t understand why it’s plural. I think I’d probably have been quite happy with “Tough Listener puzzle absorbing one (9)”. (Perhaps the plural was just a typo!?)

        As it stood, I assumed the setter was trying to use it as an intransitive verb, as if it could mean something like “ravels”, but I don’t really think it can. Hence my feeling that s/he was sacrificing the wordplay in an attempt to produce a good surface reading.

        Does that make sense? Or am I missing your point?

        1. In Hamlet’s soliloquy ‘puzzles the will’ seems to be roughly synonymous with ‘confuses’ or even ‘disrupts’.

          Edited at 2015-02-06 08:14 am (UTC)

          1. The difference is that “puzzles” in Hamlet is being used transitively (just fine!) whereas “puzzles” in the clue, if it really is a verb, is apparently being used intransitively (not so good!).
  19. Just over an hour for me, but with the canonical mistake (somehow I decided nouns can be used as adjectives by juxtaposition in English, so “wormy” would somehow fit ANNELIDON). I never did see ANNELIDAN as a possibility. Still, I’m quite happy that I did manage to parse some of the other stinkers correctly (including MORAY FIRTH, despite my widespread ignorance of Scottish geography, and the TIMEkeeper). Some of the phrasing really is a bit dodgy (for example, “Sweet son abandoning …” is not how any native speaker I know would say “leave son out of sweet …” The problem is that “abandon” is always transitive and so must be in the wordplay as well; “Sweet son leaving wilderness” would have been a better choice.
    1. But “Sweet son leaving wilderness” would clue DEERT (sic), as the ‘s’ is removed from DESERT!

      Although English is a SVO (Subject Verb Object) language, the possibility exists, especially in non-congruent uses of the language, eg poetry and crosswords (and films – think Yoda in Star Wars), for the expert language user/setter to have a little fun and muck the order about.

      Of course, “Son abandoning sweet wilderness” would work, but the surface wouldn’t be so convincing, given that the world contains the odd sweet son but, typically, no sweet wildernesses!

      1. Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of “Sweet (son leaving)” or “Sweet, son leaving” for the wordplay, but perhaps you are right in that it would need the punctuation to make that clear. But that would also apply to the clue as published in the puzzle, wouldn’t it.

        Edited at 2015-02-06 01:56 pm (UTC)

        1. I see what you are driving at now. Actually, if the setter uses ‘leaving’, in the formulation you suggest, it would be operating as intransitive in respect of the first part of the phrase and transitive in respect of the second! At least, in the clue as written it is not thus doing “double duty”. And, to be fair, “Sweet, son leaving” would be a pretty rum way for any native-speaker to speak.
  20. 11a. If you are a rambler/mountaineer, a wilderness can be sweet, so ‘son abandoning sweet wilderness’ would be fine.

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