24691 – Championship Preliminary Round 2, Puzzle 1

Apologies for the marginal lateness of this – a BT network outage, though one that was fixed just after I’d finished typing – inevitable when you’ve sent a text message and warned about a sub possibly needing to stand in.

Solving time: 23:02 (after 6 other puzzles and a report on the day’s events)

I think this was the hardest of the prelim 2 puzzles, but not quite as hard as my poor time suggests.

Across
1 REP = agent, A/C = account, K = thousand – “prepare to leave hotel” is the def – you must have packed once to go there, unless you’re someone like the Major or batty old ladies at Fawlty Towers
4 A, C.C. = cricket club, OUTRE = like eccentrics – if you don’t know the answer you may be able to back-form it from accoutrements
10 IN THE SOUP – 2 defs, one with stock as a foodstuff rather than an investment or produce in a shop
11 LAP UP – which would give you “pal” if this was a down clue. If you wonder why they didn’t just turn the grid round and make it a down clue, the answer is “look at the surface meaning!” (or almost certainly the fact that the rotated grid isn’t in their stock set).
12 BEAT = strike, NIK = rev. of kin=family – here, “A on B” means B,A rather than A,B – apparently it never means A,B in a Times crossword across clue.
13 TYPHO(id),ON = “in an advanced state” – as in “time’s getting on”
14 today’s omission – routine wordplay, and the checking letters allow nothing else
15 MOLECULE = atomic group – clue* in MOLE
18 PLUM DUFF – “plumb” = completely, DUFF = worthless – as this report would have been if we had to call in a sub because the BT engineers were still working on the outage at lunchtime
20 CO.,PRA(gue) – copra = “shell offering oil”. Nicely done clue, with “shell” masquerading as one oil company, and the phrase “oil company” needing the “lift and separate” treatment. Or it would be nicely done if the facts didn’t get in the way – see the late anonymous comment below
23 F(LEAP)IT
25 EPI(c),TOME
26 EPODE = lyric – initial letters of “every performance of Duke Ellington”
27 IN C(R)EMENT
28 DANSEUSE = (and uses)*,E – an all-in-one/&lit
29 FLU(N)KY – one of those words you might quite reasonably spell with an -ie at the end. ODE doesn’t have that, but does have -KEY
 
Down
1 REIN BACK = check (a horse) – you need Chambers to find this in a dictionary, but it’s very easy to understand. C = clubs, in break-in*
2 PIT = part of theatre, FALL = season on Broadway – lift and separate again for “theatre season”
3 CLEAN = completely as in “clean forgot”, ROOM = rev. of moor = open land – clean rooms are used in making precision equipment
5 CAPITAL OF FENCE = “dodgy dealer’s wealth”, and robbery was once a capital offence
6 (b)OX,LIP – OXLIP is today’s new plant, assuming we all know that box is used for hedging
7 TOPS = mishits (golf), O=ball, both being round, IL(l) – “where grass grows” is the def
8 EXPAND = spread out – A or for E swap in “expend” = get through = use
9 ROCKY MOUNTAINS = (Yank consortium)*, with “American syscrapers” as a groany def
16 CO(CHINE = meat joint)AL
17 T(APES = “gibbons, perhaps”, (fores)T)RY – “still hanging” must be the def., eliminating the remote possibility of motion pictures on arrases
19 LIED = Romantic song,OWN = now* – “Romantic song” is a bit flowery but adds the “lie=romance” connection to interfere with your wordplay analysis
21 P(HONE)IN – “pin” as used in describing chess moves (or sticking posters on notice boards, I guess)
22 A,FIELD = sphere = area of activity/competence
24 P(i.e.)C,E – “computer key” suggesting ALT, TAB, ESC (or END or DEL, though I can’t remember meeting those in clues yet) is another bit of “wordplay noise”

39 comments on “24691 – Championship Preliminary Round 2, Puzzle 1”

  1. I was almost half way through this when I began to think that, with FLEAPIT and BEATNIK, the Times was getting strangely repetitive. Which is when I realised that I had done this one before, and checked at the bottom of my newsprint. I too though this was the hardest of the round two puzzles, and still found it tricky today, memory not helping much as I completed it for form’s sake in 13 minutes(!). Well, it looks bad if you give up on the thing while in public on the tube.
    Away from competition, I thought there were some great clues in here TYPHOON, FLEAPIT and MOLECULE being favourites. I thought DANCEUSE was a slightly iffy cryptic definition both then and now: thanks for enlightenment.
    Do others derive pleasure from a repeat performance? And do others find it quite so easy as I apparently I did to forget the answers to clues solved under pressure? Could the Times save on compiler fees by reprinting old puzzles in the hope that we’ve all forgotten?
    1. danseuse not danceuse. I forgot to mention that I failed to understand the inner workings of both 28ac and 7dn until I came here..
        1. I got it wrong at Cheltenham – no excuses really, just trying to go too fast and not checking thoroughly. Must do better next time.
    2. 11:37 today and yes, I’d done it before but couldn’t remember it (still slower than yesterday’s unseen. Stumbled on 8d first time round. Overall an enjoyable puzzle.
  2. 21 mins for me so a little harder than average. I did not help myself by putting in “tulip” and “in the mire” but sorted it all out eventually.
    I thought this was a clever crossword, some very nice surfaces here
  3. Ran out of time on the commute with 20, 21, 22, 25 and 28 still missing, then used aids on 20, 25 and 28 to get things moving quickly and the others fell into place.

    I always think of FLEAPIT as a cinema or possibly a theatre rather than a hall.

    Much delay early on with IN THE STEW at 10ac. No idea why, so just carelessness I suppose.

    1. It’s hall in the sense of dance hall or music hall, jack, rather than country estate. But it had me fooled for a long time as well.
      1. Yes, now that you mention it I can see Music Hall as a fleapit. Some of them even became cinemas.
    2. ODE has “a dingy, dirty place, especially a run-down cinema”, so “hall that’s shabby” seems a bit over-specific.

      IN THE STEW – perfectly logical, just not such a recognisable phrase. Maybe you half remembered “in a stew”.

  4. Oh where is a BT outage when you need one? Would have spared me this deeply humbling 2 hours plus which required a spot of help to complete (ACCOUTRE). Pointless in the end as I had COCOA for COPRA and a desperate CLOSE-IN for PHONE-IN as a result. Short straw for the 2nd prelim then?

    PS
    Being convinced that TYPHUS was the disease minus the last 2 letters I was thinking that OON must be Scots for an advanced position).

    1. Short straw? Debatable – the qualifiers from prelim 2 were probably the quick people who did best with this tricky puzzle, whereas the ones from prelim 1 were the quick people who managed to avoid falling into various traps in at least 2 of their 3.

      As most of us are capable of both falling into traps and being stumped by a difficult puzzle, the idea that a near-miss non-qualifier was in the “wrong prelim” might be illusory.

  5. Quite the struggle, completed in an hour and 45 minutes with the NE corner the last to fall. Tried to spell ACCOUTRE as accouture, which didn’t help, and struggled to justify TYPHOON and EXPAND, as well as COCOA (correctly struggled with this one, I see on reading Peter’s blog! – I was attempting to squeeze Monaco in somehow), while REIN BACK (rather than ‘in’) and CLEAN ROOM weren’t very familiar.

    COD to FLEAPIT – I still remember the one in Sunninghill where I cried my way through Born Free nearly 45 years ago.

  6. This is certainly the hardest of these preliminary round puzzles published to date and I suspect the hardest daily puzzle for a little while. It took me 25 minutes of steady graft with a number of “doh” moments along the way. It’s a first class job by the setter in my opinion with good definitions and well hidden word plays. Good stuff!
  7. Agreed, lots of doh moments. The big one being at 5dn which caused a laff when got. Marked this and DANSEUSE as contenders for COD (so not quite with Jerry on the latter). 32 minutes, trying to rush and, as usually happens with haste, falling into all sorts of traps.
  8. I found this very difficult indeed: just over an hour in all. A superb puzzle though, with the difficulty coming from clever cluing rather than excessive obscurity.
    I had particular problems with the dual unknown crossing of COPRA/COCHINEAL, and then at the end it took me ages to get ACCOUTRE/OXLIP (another unknown plant). Very pleased to have got there in the end.
    Among several very good clues I particularly liked the wordplay for LAP UP.
    Bravo!
  9. Only managed about 3/4 before giving up, even making mistakes on the ones I thought I’d got right (COCOA/CLOSE IN, you weren’t the only one, Barry!)

    🙁

  10. An hour. OK if you like this sort of thing, I suppose. Grumpy because I put in AROUND instead of AFIELD, so that messed up the SW corner. Thinking: definition = “at a distance from” (doesn’t have to be a great distance); wordplay A+(ROUND = globe esp. the earth according to Chambers). Hmph! Yes, I know, AFIELD is much better…………
  11. I solved this on the train the Monday after the Championships, and remember taking about 20 minutes to solve it. I found this the hardest of all the preliminary puzzles that I ‘ve seen so far, but I’m looking forward to next Wednesday as I haven’t seen puzzle 3 of prelim 2 yet.
  12. Quite a poser. 50 minutes, the last ten on Epitome and Phone-in. Seem to be stuck at an essentially sub-Cheltenham standard, like some nag with too short a stride. Liked 5.
    1. It is perfectly clear to me now that I won’t ever be quick enough to trouble the Cheltenham entrants. However I have achieved a magic trick, by convincing myself that I don’t actually want to do the crossword in 5mins every day. I quite enjoy wandering through it in 15-20mins (and sometimes much more), writing anagrams in a circle, starting at the bottom of the grid & seeing where it takes me, not writing in answers until I fully understand the wordplay etc etc.. pity poor old Mark Goodliffe, who has to fill 23hrs 55mins of every day doing other stuff..
  13. Curiously, in view of what’s been said above , I didn’t find this puzzle especially hard, indeed easier than yesterday’s, and I completed it in not much over the half hour, which must be the first time I’ve ever been within 10 mins of a Peter B time. And this despite, like Barry, having COCOA for COPRA and CLOSE-IN for PHONE-IN for a while. Am I actually getting better, or is it just the old “no accounting for taste” thing? I certainly seemed to be on the setter’s wave-lengthy today. Lots of inventive stuff – I liked CAPITAL OFFENCE, and PLUM DUFF raised a chuckle.
  14. It took me about 10 minutes to get my first clue. After an hour of struggling I was still left with E?I?O?E and threw in EPISODE in desperation (of not totally impressive = EPI(c)’S + ODE (Oxford Dictionary of English) for book; What’s wrong with that? OK, so episode doesn’t mean summary, but neither does epitome… oh, wait, so it does). Full marks to the setter.
  15. I’m quite pleased with my 17:06 now. Held up a little at 20a by seeing “shell” and “company” and throwing in CONCH (some people never learn!).
    As a puzzle done at leisure it was thoroughly enjoyable, though had I been in the 2nd round this year, I don’t think I’d have enjoyed it quite as much.
    Cracking puzzle. Thanks setter
  16. I must be a sick puppy – I was completely on the setter’s wavelength here and was done in 14 minutes, for a rare (and handicapped – since he did it after 93 crosswords in a row, seven blogs and eight pints, and I did it within a few minutes of waking up) Peter Beater! Doesn’t hurt that last week I was talking about CLEAN ROOMS with a nuclear chemist, I knew COCHINEAL was a colouring and could unravel ROCKY MOUNTAINS with a quick glance and a checking K.
  17. Came up 5 short today and made more errors elsewhere than I’ve ever made before. Thanks for correcting me on those Peter. Thought EXPAND was the hardest clue of the set.

    I didn’t get CELLO (thought it was COMBO – the COMB “instrument” on O giving the small group combo) so didn’t get PITFALL and also blundered with PLUM PUFF, COCOA, CLOSE IN and AROUND (not AFIELD). Atleast I got the unknown-to-me ACCOUTRE from ACC????? / accoutrements.

    We’ve had COCHINEAL before and that was my first thought there before confirming it with the wordplay.

    ROCKY MOUNTAINS was my favourite clue/answer.

  18. Too hard for me! Finished with aids in the SE corner, and still managed to get a couple wrong (20ac and 21d)…
  19. Peter, I think you meant to write ‘A for E swap in “expend”‘. In case anyone [lurking] is uncertain, ‘when East’s ace’ = ‘when e is a’.
  20. I also found this pretty difficult, but managed to finish unaided in about 45 minutes. Last entries were COPRA and FLUNKY. A very good puzzle, and I echo others salute to the setter. COD’s to LIE DOWN and CAPITAL OFFENCE. Regards.
  21. I did get through to Cheltenham (and didn’t come last! although admittedly a long way down the list), and I thought this puzzle was really very difficult – almost enough to make me give up and go home. Thankfully the second one was much easier, and the third somewhere between the two. So joe and others, don’t despair!
  22. 40 minutes and given comments above i am quite pleased at that. didnt undersatnd expand fully until i came here.Agree with jimbo that this was an elegant puzzle with lots of lovely clues. well done to the setter

    More like this please!

  23. In 20ac, how can shell=COPRA? Copra is the meat which has been extracted from the coconut shell and dried, not the shell itself.

    1. Sorry – I did look up copra and was surprised to find “kernel” rather than “shell”. A bit of a shame that this slipped through.

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