Times Quick Cryptic No 1969 by Breadman

A gentle end to the week compared to the last couple of days (and my last couple of Fridays) with this Quick Cryptic from Breadman. It is a curious grid with no answers more than 10 letters, which suits me fine as I find long words bother me. There are also a few gimmes like 10A, which should help you get started but, curiously, only two part-anagrams. My first one in was 1A, which got me off to a flyer. Some neat clues; my favourite was 17A and it was good to see a baking reference too. My last one in was 23A as I needed the checkers to remember the sweet green concoction. In all it took me just over the 4 minute mark, so comfortably under my average time. Nice one. Thank-you Breadman. How did you all get on?

Fortnightly Weekend Quick Cryptic. This time we have the debut of a new compiler to the team, Sawbill, in providing the extra weekend entertainment. You can find his crossword here. Enjoy! And if anyone is interested in our previous offerings you can find an index to them here.

Definitions underlined in bold italics, (Abc)* indicating anagram of Abc, deletions and “” other indicators.

1 Secure box with sovereign’s rifle (10)
WINCHESTERWIN (secure) CHEST (box) ER (the queen; sovereign). Named after its inventor, Oliver. His son William’s widow Sarah, heiress to a large proportion of the resulting wealth built, over many years, the wacky Winchester Mystery House, an architectural wonder and historic landmark in San Jose, CA.

Image by Christy Sharp
7 Course requiring drivers with learner signs (5)
LINKSL (learner) INKS (signs). <pedantry>Strictly speaking you don’t have to use a driver as your club for a tee-shot on a links golf course or any other</pedantry>. By the way, the Ryder Cup starts to today at the interestingly named Whistling Straits golf course on the shores of Lake Michigan, “… a course that replicates the ancient seaside links courses of the United Kingdom and Ireland.” It has “nigh-on 1000 bunkers“!
8 Finishes food each time before drink (4,2)
EATS UPEA (each) T (time) “before” SUP (drink). As any good child does even if the meal contains broccoli.
10 Hotel in capital of Norway (3)
INNIN “capital of” Norway. Alas we’ve missed this year’s Oslo  Aker River Equinox torchlight walk, which I’ve been lucky enough to enjoy in the past. My Inn there was very pleasant too.
12 Popular sci-fi writer peripherally scans Scottish city (9)
INVERNESSIN (popular) VERNE (Jules Verne; sci-fi writer) and outside letters, “peripherally”, of ScanS. Jules Verne had an affinity for Scotland and visited it in 1859 and 1879, as described here, but did he visit Inverness?
13 Badger returned to capture seabird (6)
GANNET – NAG (badger) “returned” -> GAN, NET (capture).
14 Country‘s prison with a district attorney (6)
CANADACAN (slang for prison), followed by, “with”, A DA (district attorney).
17 Exactly where the bridge is located (2,3,4)
ON THE NOSE – Double definition, the second a cryptic hint (bridge of the nose). Ho ho. My favourite of the day. I’d bet on it being a winner with others too.
19 Organ starts to echo around room (3)
EAR – Initial letters, “starts to”, Echo Around Room.
20 Newsman inside favouring a hat (6)
FEDORAED (editor; newsman) “inside” FOR (favouring) A.
21 Perfect business transaction with Apple? (5)
IDEAL – Double definition, the second an i-cryptic i-hint (I-DEAL). Ever wondered why Apple product names start with “i”? Read about it here.
23 Plan to consume once again aromatic liqueur (10)
CHARTREUSECHART (plan) REUSE (consume once again). My LOI – I needed the checkers to remember this sweet and perfumed green liqueur. My Dad had some in the cupboard for years – nobody had any more than once. Read about the drink here.
1 Boot in sports car working well at first (10)
WELLINGTONIN, GT (Grand Tourer; sports car) ON (working) all after WELL “at first”.
2 Grandma‘s Indian side dish (3)
NAN – Double definition, Breadman appropriately serving us up an Indian bread on the side.
3 Inhospitable house with broken tiles (7)
HOSTILEHO (house) “with” (tiles)*. Our first anagram is a partial one.
4 Deflect wide probing tennis stroke (6)
SWERVEW (wide) inside, “probing”, SERVE (tennis stroke).
5 Evergreen terrain includes log (5)
ENTER – Hidden, “includes”, in EvergreEN TERrain. Typical sneaky setter’s misdirection – log is a noun in the surface but a verb in the definition.
6 Association of workers on telephone get old teaching (8)
TUTELAGETU (trade union; association of workers) “on” TEL (telephone) AGE (get old). Teaching by telephone.. or video… it will never catch on will it? Oh. That’s what my wife was doing in the study all day when she wasn’t allowed to teach at school!
9 Especially on a training session, we hear casual shoe (10)
ESPADRILLEESP (standard definition for especially) “on” A, DRILLE, sounds like, “we hear”, DRILL (training session).
11 Geordie entertaining in matches for a decade (8)
NINETIESNE (North Eastern; Geordie), outside, “entertaining” IN, TIES (matches).
15 Elite gathered in rising artist’s workshop (7)
ATELIER – (elite)* “gathered”, “in” RA (artist) “rising” -> AR. Our second part anagram clue. And that’s all the anagramming we get today.
16 Rubbish religious books in Barnet (3,3)
HOT AIROT (Old Testament; religious books) “in” HAIR (Barnet; a person’s hair).
18 Record old companion’s age (5)
EPOCHEP (extended play; old type of record) O (old) CH (Companion of Honour).
22 Aussie native married within European Union (3)
EMUM (married) “within” E.U. (European Union). The bird native to Australia.

87 comments on “Times Quick Cryptic No 1969 by Breadman”

  1. I biffed NINETIES, parsed post-submission; took me a moment to figure it out. I believe the Winchester rifle was invented by Sarah’s father-in-law, not husband. The story goes that she was troubled at inheriting a fortune based on guns, and that a fortune-teller told her that she wouldn’t die as long as she kept on building; which she did, but she did.4:23.

    Edited at 2021-09-24 02:25 am (UTC)

    1. Thanks. I’d forgotten it was her father-in-law, not husband who invented the original Winchester. Blog amended.
  2. Since I live about 15 minutes from the Winchester Mystery House, that one went straight in. There were lots of different Winchester rifles, but Sarah who built the house was the widow of the owner of the company by then.

    9 minutes for me, and no typo for once.

      1. Funnily enough, only a couple of years ago, having lived here for over 30 years. It’s not that interesting tbh.
  3. Those other Winchesters…. Simon WINCHESTER – wasn’t he often on ‘The Fast Show’? And this was the town which the Russians came to spread their poison. And a coat-rack for hanging up one’s 12ac Inverness, 20ac Fedora; one’s ‘wellies’ and espadrilles reside at the base at the base.
    I believe this puzzle to be a ‘Frederik’, Nina’s lesser half.


    FOI 1dn WELLINGTON (Salop)

    LOI 7ac LINKS

    COD 23as CHARTREUSE horryd muck!

  4. Another tricky one to end a tricky week. Huge groan when the alphabet trawl revealed ON THE NOSE surpassing the previous groan for WINCHESTER. Spotted it was going to be ESPADRILLE quickly but had to trust the cryptic to add the e on the end and couldn’t have told you what an ATELIER was before starting but the word leapt out from the anagrist and fitted the checkers, so in it went. Looking forward to trying Sawbill’s puzzle tomorrow. All green in 17 after five on the first pass of acrosses.
  5. 8 minutes, no problems. WINCHESTER the rifle known from various Westerns, most notably WINCHESTER ’73 (1950) starring James Stewart.
  6. I found this more difficult than yesterday. ON THE NOSE was LOI, and it took a while for Penny to drop.
    Thanks for the blog, John, and thanks Mr Breadman
  7. I found it tricky, too. I started with the easy 3-letter answers and then decelerated. Things picked up, as usual, as more crossers became available. I slowed at the end, though, with LINKS and NINETIES both going in unparsed. A couple of minutes over target but it seemed slower.
    I liked INVERNESS, GANNET, and smiled at ON THE NOSE. I thought some of the parsing was a bit contrived — e.g. LINKS, WINCHESTER, TUTELAGE, ESPADRILLE, WELLINGTON, but with many of the longer answers this was probably inevitable. Thanks both. A funny old week IMO, John M.

    Edited at 2021-09-24 07:17 am (UTC)

  8. Another chewy one but enjoyable nonetheless.
    Unfortunately I had a complete brain fade – I put in a very tentative ENDS UP at 8a knowing that it didn’t feel right but forgot to revisit it later. At the end I was left with E_D_R at 5d so biffed ELDER thinking that it might be an evergreen tree, so two incorrect answers and 3 pink squares. One day I’ll learn….
    ‘Finished’ in 13.30 with COD to ON THE NOSE for the PDM.
    Thanks to John
  9. Not as tricky as the last two days but I was still over the 20 minute mark. I was held up by links, was thinking lines or lanes may be course, atelier, nineties and tutelage.

    I needed the blog to parse Wellington and gannet. Thanks John & Breadman

  10. between tricky/easy so far, as indirectly predicted by Vinyl, despite the snarky anon. comment.

    I thought it on the easier side, though WELLINGTON was not parsed. NINETIES was LOI.


  11. Did not really know Atelier, so missed spelled it as Alteier, which made ON THE NOSE is fruitless search with many possibilities.

    Poor showing after rapid FOIs at 1a and 1d should have led to a much better effort.

    I lived around San Jose for 10 years and never went to the Winchester Mystery House.

  12. Personally I found this really tricky — managed to solve with lots of aids, but even then not entirely sure of the cryptic — so thank you again to the blogger for your explanations. Enter = log doesn’t immediately spring to mind. Nor does inks = signs
  13. Liked ON THE NOSE and WELLINGTON. I agree with horryd about CHARTREUSE.

    As I set today’s fortnightly QC courtesy of John and Phil, I am being ESPecially polite to setters. Thanks Breadman.

  14. Another toughie for me as I roamed aimlessly around the grid after an encouraging start with 1A and 1D. No problem with GANNET having grown up a stone’s throw from the beach and ATELIER dropped in having configured my past four cars in one so named Italian fancy showroom, also coupled to 1D.
    Couldn’t parse NINETIES and tried hard to put in NUT or TGWU into 6D. Seem to remember Espadrilles as women’s summer shoes festooned with string from the ’80s. Do they still exist? Thanks John and Breadman.
  15. Did not get anywhere with this one. Too difficult for me. I have found a website where there are daily cryptic crosswords, free of charge. They have a cryptic there that is designed for beginners, and it really is more gentle than these QCs here. When I fail to solve here I go over there.
      1. No. The Telegraph does indeed offer a free crossword each day, but it’s not always the cryptic. It changes from day to day.

        I am not sure if I am permitted to post links to other sites here.

        1. If you post a web address LJ spams your comment unless you are an author. But if you would like to post the address here I can unspam it so others can see.
  16. I found that gentle enough, and very enjoyable. I didn’t help myself with some incompetent typing – today’s theme was starting to type the full word when the cursor was on the second letter square, thus ending up with (eg) HHOSTIE. This is not a recommended technique.

    I enjoyed learning about the Winchester family, thanks John and Kevin.

    FOI WELLINGTON, LOI ENTER (durr), COD INVERNESS, time 09:12 for 2.1K and an OK Day.

    Many thanks John and Breaders.


  17. “Nan” has appeared three times in the last few days. I thought that it should be spelt “Naan”
    1. “Naan” is an alternative spelling.

      Lexico: “nan (also naan) (in Indian cooking) a type of leavened bread, typically of teardrop shape and traditionally cooked in a clay oven. As modifier ‘nan bread’. Origin – From Urdu and Persian nān.”

  18. Much better going but a lot of biffing at first, eg wrote in WELLINGTON very faintly but luckily it worked with the crossers.
    LOsI included LINKS, TUTELAGE and, embarrassingly, CANADA.
    Thanks vm, John.
  19. Was flying through this with just over 5 minutes elapsed and 2 to go. Those 2 were CHARTREUSE and ESPADRILLE. 8:41! Thanks Breadman and John.
    1. Good to see you getting up to speed John – have a weekend! Meldrew

      Edited at 2021-09-24 10:01 am (UTC)

  20. After my daily ration of NAN bread, I had to dart around the grid to keep going.
    Nevertheless I had just one left after about 9 minutes -17a.
    I considered all the possible starting letters without improving on BONE, which I didn’t think I’d ever heard.
    Eventually I thought of ON THE NOSE. COD to that.
    Time was 12:50.
    A good challenging puzzle from Breadman.
  21. ….which I thoroughly enjoyed, and with which I could find no fault. I started slowly on the across clues, but the downs flew in to ensure that I was within my target.

    LOI CHARTREUSE (consume only when desperate !)
    COD ON THE NOSE (simply brilliant misdirection)
    TIME 4:17

  22. Not too tricky today — we finished in 11 minutes.

    FOI: NAN

    Thanks to Breadman and John.

    Thanks to all of the weekend setters — we really appreciate your puzzles. Looking forward to trying Sawbill’s puzzle…..

    Edited at 2021-09-24 09:45 am (UTC)

  23. Back to around twenty minutes at nineteen today. I seem to enjoy a slower solve, ruminating over the wordplay, so content to be regarded as a slower solver. FOI inn. Only 7 on first pass. Breadman is usually friendly, so it shows that setters can vary in the difficulty of their offerings. LOI links – could see ‘L’ plates and the course, not the signing. Other incomplete parsing, too. COD Chartreuse, I like the green version. Thanks, John, and Breadman. GW.
  24. Just avoided the SCC today at 19 minutes and change, and was generally slow throughout. Nothing unheard here, but ATELIER needed to be exhumed from the depths. Thanks both.
  25. On the slow side for me today finishing after 22 mins.

    Foxed for a while by INN, where I tried inserting H into OSLO in various formulations before the penny dropped – a real forehead-slapper.

    INVERNESS and WELLINGTON went in unparsed once I had a couple of checkers, being the only Scottish city with a V and boot respectively that I could think of that length.

    NHO “HO” as an abbreviation for House before, put that one in the bank.

    Really liked ON THE NOSE once the second meaning dropped – had entered ON THE BANK but couldn’t figure where bank came from and felt a bit literal.

    Otherwise just a regular, slow, hungover walk round the board.

    Thanks setter and blogger

  26. A Much Better Day today, as all done and dusted in 8 minutes 😊 Most enjoyable with just a few knotty ones to up the difficulty level – 1d in particular. The words sports car automatically bring MGs to mind – my best car ever! So when I saw the G, I was very tempted to precede it with an M.
    The issue of GK raises its head again – as we all agree, it’s difficult to judge what is and isn’t obscure, and I think we should certainly be careful not make assumptions!
    But here is a piece of info regarding a book by the author Simon Winchester – a real person, not a comedy character – which I hope you word jugglers might enjoy. He wrote The Surgeon of Crowthorne (among many other great non-fiction books), which is about the making of the OED. One of its most prolific early contributors, William Chester Minor, a retired United States Army surgeon, was imprisoned in the Broadmoor Criminal Lunatic Asylum, near the village of Crowthorne, in Berkshire, England (Wikipedia). And as a bonus, the public school Wellington College is located near by!
    FOI Eats up
    LOI Espadrille
    COD John was On the nose with this one 😅
    Thanks for all the fascinating extras today, John – it was a really interesting blog. Thanks also to Breadman for a pleasant end to a variable week

    Edited at 2021-09-24 11:08 am (UTC)

    1. The Surgeon of Crowthorne was brilliant. Thanks for reminding me of it. Will look out for other books by Simon Winchester.
    2. Interesting story. Thanks. By the way I had an MGB GT for a few years in the 1980a. Great fun to drive.
      1. The Map that changed the world was fascinating. The original hangs on the stairs in The Royal Geographic Society HQ in London.


  27. I messed up what would have been a very satisfying sub-20 by biffing Swell (I had no idea what Apple was doing) for perfect, and then misspelling Chartreuse. That made Atelier impossible, until I spotted that an anagram of Elite was likely to be involved. Sorting all that out took me into the SCC by a couple of minutes. I have used the word Espadrille(s) in real life, which is more than can be said for Atelier. Overall, quite tricky in places, with loi Links my CoD, though On the Nose was pretty good. Invariant
  28. I can recommend The Professor and the Madman (even though it features Mel Gibson) if you haven’t already seen it.
    1. I wasn’t aware of it — thanks 😊 I shall look out for it on one of the zillion channels we have to scroll through to find much to watch these days!
      If you haven’t read it, I really recommend The Map that Changed the World about the geologist William Smith — another cracker from Simon Winchester 😊
  29. An enjoyable 17 mins from me. There were definitely tricky clues, but some I’ve seen many times before eg. 23ac “Chartreuse”, 15dn “Atelier” and 9dn “Espardrille”. Nan/Naan bread seems to be flavour of the month at the moment, keep seeing it everywhere.

    I thought this was quite a current crossword — what with 7ac “Links” in relation to the Ryder Cup and the 11dn “Nineties” (we’ve just celebrated 25 years of the Oasis concert of Knebworth which I, ahem, attended in my youth). At one point I thought Isaac Asimov was going to make an appearance at 12ac — especially as his Foundation starts on Apple TV + today (which was also mentioned in 21ac).

    Anyway — lots to like and a bit of relief compared to the previous days puzzles. I can now look forward to tomorrow with the printed pdf of the weekend crossword and a coffee.

    FOI — 1dn “Wellington”
    LOI — 8dn “Espardrille”
    COD — 17ac “On the nose”

    Thanks as usual!

    Edited at 2021-09-24 11:42 am (UTC)

  30. 3:25 late this morning. First time I’ve been under 3:30 for a while, however I feel this was the easiest QC over that period. At the same time, I thought there was a good range of clues, all well constructed.
    FOI 1 ac “winchester” and then nothing really held me up before I hesitated briefly before parsing 21 ac “ideal” and submitting.
    COD 7 ac “links” where there was a neat piece of misdirection, although I’ve come across the wordplay before.
    Thanks to John for a fascinating blog and to Breadman for providing a pleasant end to the week.
    Looking forward to trying Sawbill’s QC tomorrow.
  31. Threw in the towel after 30 minutes. Neither the long 1ac or 1d answered despite having most of the checkers in.

    6d TUTELAGE, 7ac LINKS, 13ac GANNET and 11d NINETIES were also incomplete.

    I spent far too long on 10ac INN, trying to convince myself that there was a word for a hotel in OSLO.

    A tricky end to the week I think, although having read the blog I’m not entirely sure why, the wordplay is fair and definitions are clear, on reflection.

    Have a good weekend all.

  32. Not firing on all cylinders quite …
    … as day 3 of a mini-holiday sees me definitely in a slower mood. 16 minutes in all, but all done and enjoyed. Main hold-up was 15D Atelier, which I vaguely recall is a real word but could not tell you what it means, and LOI 23A Chartreuse, which needed all the checkers.

    Many thanks John for the blog, and i look forward to the Saturday Special. A good weekend to all.

  33. Slower than yesterday at 16 mins but I’m not sure why. Nothing unknown in the vocabulary as far as I was concerned but one or two clues took a bit of unravelling. Never managed to parse LINKS or IDEAL (thanks John) but otherwise all ok. Nice puzzle, so thanks to Breadman.

    FOI – 8ac EATS UP
    LOI & COD – 17ac ON THE NOSE

  34. Apologies if someone has already asked or commented, but seeing NAN encourages me to ask if Breadman has a thing for bread like Oink for pigs.


    1. I haven’t noticed if bread regularly features in his puzzles but the setter’s surname is Warburton.
    2. Good question. I must admit I’ve not paid attention to whether that is so when I’ve solved Breadman puzzles in the past but a quick view of a selection of previous blogs doesn’t reveal any such proclivity.
  35. Not gentle at all, IMHO. A real struggle for me — maybe I was so badly wounded by yesterday’s tough one that I hadn’t the wherewithall to complete today’s with out a lot of biffing and resorting to aids. I think I’ll go and look for PWs Simple ones…
  36. I nearly put ON THE NOTE, but fortunately decided to do an alphabet trawl, and I had to trust to luck with ATELIER (unknown to me). Otherwise, all clues went in relatively quickly and all were mostly, if not fully parsed. Total time = 27 minutes, which is jolly good for me.

    Mrs R hasn’t finished her attempt yet, but I think she may have already gone past my time. This would mean I suffer a glorious 1-4 defeat this week (significantly better than my usual 0-5).

    Many thanks to Breadman and johninterred.

    1. As I pointed out somewhere above, we always referred to them as deck shoes, possibly to conjure up images of glamorous cruise liners. We also had plimsolls (or plimmies), which seems to be a word that is vanishing from common use.
      1. I’m not sure that espadrilles are quite the same as deck shoes – the former were traditionally slip-ons with canvas uppers and rope soles (although there are all sorts of fashionable versions these days), while the latter are more often leather, with rubber soles and laces. They look quite different in photos!
        1. It’s good to know there is a late shift that reads the comments posted later in the day. My routine (and brain) does not suit a morning solve, so it’s early evening for me.
  37. Three days in a row now which have included something I have never heard of, clued by an anagram. Thankfully, just like yesterday’s Bantustan, there weren’t many options for ATELIER, so I finished in a reasonably rapid 16:35. Not sure where I dredged ESPADRILLE from and CHARTREUSE came to me remarkably quickly too given I’m not a drinker. Not that you’d know it, doing things like forgetting to post this several hours ago. Oh well. Thanks Breadman and John.

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