Times Quick Cryptic No 1669 by Breadman

Not the easiest of Quick Crosswords today, I think, with quite a range of general knowledge needed including a Japanese healing technique, an anti-ship missile, a medicinal herb, a film director and geography from around the world. 23A was my LOI, correcting my wrong spelling in 4D.  In all it took me just under 6 minutes – about a minute longer than average. Some nice clues – I think 22A is my favourite. So thank-you Breadman. How did you all get on?

Weekend Quick Cryptics. Thanks to all who provided comments on Phil’s crossword 2 weeks ago. He has persuaded me that we can continue to provide them on a regular basis, so this week it is my turn. You can find my “Summer Holidays Quick Cryptic” here, if you would like to have a go.

Definitions underlined in bold italics, (Abc)* indicating anagram of Abc, deletions and [] other indicators.

Across
1 Defrost fruit after time (4)
THAWT (time) HAW (fruit).
3 Perhaps Martin’s partner in sports car is hard to shock (8)
ASTONISHASTON (other half of Aston-Martin) IS H (hard).
9 Dismissal is indicated by this angry-looking oddball (3,4)
RED CARDRED (angry-looking) CARD (oddball).
10 Rich cake a part of breakfast or tea (5)
TORTE – Hidden in [part of] breakfasT OR TEa.
11 Fundamental part of fabric is absent, on reflection (5)
BASIC – Reverse [on reflection] hidden [part of] in fabriC IS ABsent.
12 Dead old detective backed missile (6)
EXOCETEX (dead, as in an ex-parrot with beautiful plumage) O (old) TEC (detective) [backed] -> CET. The anti-ship missile first used in anger in the Falklands war. The name is apparently French for “flying fish”.
14 Coach identifying film from 1990s (13)
TRAINSPOTTINGTRAIN (coach) SPOTTING (identifying).
17 Type of train exits eastern line (6)
DIESELDIES (exits) E (eastern) L (line). I thought “DIES” for “exits” was a bit odd, but Chambers has “Die (Literary)” for exit, so I guess that’s OK then.
19 Free kick is regularly providing natural therapy (5)
REIKI – Have I got this wrong or has the setter? I think it’s meant to be alternate letters [regularly] of fReE kIcK Is but the I comes straight after the K. It is one of the two letters of “is”, but I’ve not seen the sequence change between words in a clue before. Whatevs. Reiki, if you didn’t know, is “a Japanese technique for stress reduction and relaxation that also promotes healing. It is administered by ‘laying on hands’ and is based on the idea that an unseen ‘life force energy’ flows through us and is what causes us to be alive.”
22 Pure dairy product British avoided (5)
UTTERbUTTER (dairy product) without the B (British) [avoided].
23 Sailor briefly in middle of spacious Corsican location (7)
AJACCIO – How’s your mediterranean geography? This one held me up a bit as the name was slow to surface in my memory. It’s JACk (sailor) without the k [briefly] in [middle of] spACIOus. Ajaccio is the largest settlement on Corsica.
24 Shifted tinker up toll road once (8)
TURNPIKE – (tinker up)* [shifted].
25 Beg Republican entering to hand over money (4)
PRAYR (republican) [entering] PAY (hand over money).
Down
1 Amount of data Rab found on Yankee kept by French head (8)
TERABYTERAB Y (Yankee is the NATO phonetic alphabet word for Y) inside [kept by] TETE (head in French).
2 Mountain range also echoes peripherally (5)
ANDESAND (also) and the outside letters of EchoeS [peripherally].
4 US filmmaker somewhere in New South Wales having fish (6,7)
SYDNEY POLLACKSYDNEY (somewhere in New South Wales) POLLACK (fish). I quite often eat the fish, but I’ve always seen it spelt POLLOCK… so that’s what I put initially until AJACCIO was solved.
5 Perform better than unpopular party (5)
OUTDOOUT (unpopular) DO (party).
6 Middle Eastern air’s affected priest (7)
ISRAELI – (air’s)* [affected] ELI (crosswordland’s favourite priest).
7 Did some gardening, brick-carrier saving energy (4)
HOEDHOD (brick carrier) outside [saving] E (energy).
8 Calf moving about on bird of prey (6)
FALCON – (Calf)* [moving about] ON.
13 Lip in severe pain, bringing medicinal herb (8)
AGRIMONYRIM (lip) [in] AGONY (severe pain).
15 Top celebrity left one in tears when working (1-6)
A-LISTERL (left) I (one) [in] (tears)* [when working]. Who decides who is on the A-list and what basis do they use, I wonder?
16 Seaman, mostly crazy, legendary strong man (6)
TARZANTAR (seaman) ZANy (crazy) [mostly].
18 Band roles reversed (5)
STRAP – PARTS (roles) [reversed] -> STRAP.
20 Suffer at home with scoundrel (5)
INCURIN (at home) CUR (scoundrel).
21 Depart from South American capital, short of oxygen (4)
QUITQUITo (capital of Ecuador)  [short of], i.e. without the O (oxygen)

72 comments on “Times Quick Cryptic No 1669 by Breadman”

  1. 40+ years in Japan and I’ve never heard of REIKI; fortunately, a setter had some time back and I was able to recall it. Never noticed the alternate letter problem; evidently, neither did the setter. 6:07, but with SIDNEY; given the possibility that Mr. Pollack spelled it Sydney and the certainty that the city does, I have no idea why I went for I.
  2. DNK Ajaccio, had heard turnpike but thought they were US freeways?? Knew reiki but puzzled by irregular clueing. Hoed into torte – but didn’t spot the diesel. Sydney was a gift for us Aussies 😀 Thanks Breadman and blogger

    Edited at 2020-07-31 01:43 am (UTC)

  3. I found this to be fairly straightforward – I knew Reiki but couldn’t justify it from the clue.
  4. Time wasn’t terrible but pleasure was a bit lacking today. Also I had a pink square for SRRAP – I’m letting me off though as I’d never have done it on paper. My ignorance was once again exposed, NHO of Sydney Pollack and although I knew Sydney and New South Wales were in Australia I didn’t know one was in the other – NSW’s first association is the cricket team. Didn’t know Ajaccio, thought AGRIMONY was a bit unfair, it could only be AGONY but the checkers meant LIP could be literal to give AGLIPONY, which is no less likely than the answer! Knew TURNPIKE from years living on the Piccadilly Line (including some time one stop up at Wood Green), EXOCET from being a schoolboy during the Falklands War and REIKI as a friend is a practioner – missed that the spacing was off. Enjoy the sunshine, see you on Monday.
  5. Just as I thought I had turned the corner and I was getting into a run of targets achieved this one knocked me way off course with a technical DNF, needing aids for three answers in the SE corner, AGRIMONY, REIKI and AJACCIO (all unknown to the LJ spell-checker incidentally, as my draft posting is a sea of wavy red underlinings).

    Admittedly I should have got AGRIMONY because it has come up several times before, but for some reason it has failed to stick in my brain and I didn’t even remember it having looked it up. I got as far as AGONY from wordplay but couldn’t think of a three-letter word for ‘lip’. Of course if I’d had the I-checker I’m sure it would have made a difference, but the undoubtedly faulty clue at 19ac to a word I never heard of prevented that.

    At 23ac it was clear that the name of a place in Corsica was required but I was hampered by not knowing a single one of them. I had ACIO form wordplay but couldn’t think of an abbreviated word for ‘sailor’ to fill the gap. Having looked it up, the irony was not lost on me!

    Edited at 2020-07-31 04:59 am (UTC)

  6. I suspected that this was a NINA (is that when all the letters of the alphabet are used? I thought there was a glossary of terms somewhere here but couldn’t find it). When I start to see X, Y and Z appear, I am always suspicious. So that drive me quickly to Quito, Jack and Pollock (foolishly biffed Poitier but knew it was wrong and needed to place a k in fish). Also wanted to put SARI (South American, SA, capital RIO without O!). Had lots of fun with this today. Thanks Breadman and John.
    1. When all the 26 letters are used, it’s a pangram. The glossary is way up on the right, below the calendar.
      1. Thanks. Strange. On my Android phone there is no selection below Calendar on the list. Readability, Join this community, Stop following, Filter and Calendar.
        BTW was this a PANGRAM?
        1. Almost, but not quite – there is no V, but all the other letters which makes it a Lipogram.

          Edited at 2020-07-31 08:15 am (UTC)

          1. Just for fun, I thought I’d see if I could squeeze the V into this grid….
            If REIKI becomes RADII
            Then INCUR can become DACHA and
            PRAY can become NAVY or WAVY or VARY.
            Voila!
            1. I too started looking for a pangram when the Q and Z were in, and it certainly helped me biff 23A Ajaccio, which I would not have got otherwise and never did parse. But as has been noted, we are missing a V. I believe this is the second time Breadman has done this (ie 25/26) and one does have to wonder why.

              Cedric

              1. I’ve said this before : there is a tendency for certain compilers to try for a pangram and fail by a whiskey, but I also believe the “failure” can be a deliberate ploy to trap the unwary into trying to squeeze in the missing letter(s) into the clues they haven’t yet solved.
              2. Just as well I didn’t know it was a near miss Pangram/Lipogram as it helped a lot to assume it was! Didn’t parse Ajaccio but had been sailing between Porto Cervo and Bonifacio in the long and distant past and had planned to sail up to Ajaccio but decided to go to Porto-Vecchio instead. Paid off today!
        2. On my kindle and my android phone, the extras, inc the glossary, are nea the bottom of the opening page of the blog – hope that helps.
  7. A curious mixture of write ins and absolute head-scratchers for me. The REIKI miscluing had me doubting myself despite being familiar with the practice, I was relieved to know AJACCIO as working that out from the wordplay may well have defeated me and I spent a long time staring at AG_I_ONY trying to think of three letter words for being rude, before the penny finally dropped.
    DIES and TEC were new to me and I couldn’t work out who Martin was in 3a until reading the John’s excellent blog – although with hindsight that should have been obvious.
    Having said all of that I enjoyed the challenge and finished in a respectable 13.21 with LOI AGRIMONY and my COD goes to TURNPIKE.
    Thanks to John
  8. Unusual words for a quick cryptic, AJACCIO, REIKI, AGRIMONY, EXOCET spring to mind. Thought this was somewhat too hard for a quickie, particularly in light of the general knowledge required for AJACCIO
  9. I’m a massive fan of all the setters and bloggers – amazing job done by all. And enjoyed most of this toughish challenge. But Ajaccio? And a mistake in a clue. Not the Editor’s greatest day.

    10 mins give or take for all but Ajaccio. The towel came out after a few more minutes

    Thanks John and Breadman

      1. And I now see Ajaccio was a write in for my brother making this a Very Unsatisfactory Day 😀
  10. I honeymooned in Corsica so Ajaccio a write in. Not the most well known town / city in France it has to be said. Very surprised to be in top half of the leaderboard (for now) 11:48.
  11. A tough end to the week. I was immersed in this and, once again, found my time was longer than I thought at just over 21 mins. I share the difficulties mentioned above so won’t repeat them. I liked AGRIMONY (DNK so I had to check it was a plant), TARZAN, TERABYTE, and ASTONISH (my COD). LOI EXOCET. Thanks to both. John M.
  12. Thanks johninterred. No thanks breadman. If I want to do a general knowledge crossword there are plenty on offer. Three of these were interlinked so there was no way in – I actually managed exocet but couldn’t justify tec for detective and with respect still can’t . Reiki was at least accessible from the cluing. Irritated 🙁

    Edited at 2020-07-31 08:46 am (UTC)

      1. Sorry but I can’t think of any situation where it would be used. its not used in slang anywhere to my knowledge. Plain clothes – sweeny di cid there are lots out there but tec ???? No way
        1. You need to read old American crime stories- “tec” is a standard usage. Just shows that time is never misspent no matter what teachers might say! So well known to me that it didn’t occur to me to think about it.
          1. Thanks for the info – old and American says it all – I’m buying a 21c copy of the (London) Times. Credit to you but I’m not impressed.
            1. The word is used by GBS in the opening scene of “Pygmalion”. A bystander notices Henry Higgins making notes of Eliza Doolittle’s speech and says,”There’s a tec takin’ her down.”

              Sorry to be so late. A couple of events have put me very behind.

              1. thanks for staying with it! I would still maintain that it isn’t and has never been in common parlance in the UK
                1. “Never”? You’re arguing with George Bernard Shaw? That’s some cheek, lad.
                  1. GBS died in 1950 – my point is that in my best part of 70 years the word wasn’t and isn’t in common use this side of the pond. Show me otherwise otherwise I’m content to stand my ground
                    1. Btw the key word is common – I wasn’t saying not at all. It isn’t used enough to mean anything to a Brit. A ‘techy’ has some meaning in IT
                    2. Your ground keeps shifting, though. I was taking issue with the assertion that the term “isn’t and has never been in common parlance in the UK.” Now we’re talking about the past several decades. Yes, dictionaries sometimes mark it as “dated”; it seem to run across it every few weeks, though, in a crossword.

                      My point was that if GBS put the word into the mouth of a regular Joe on the street in one of his plays, he must have deemed it in quite common usage at the time.

                      1. Your are right that GBS would not have used a word which meant nothing so I must concede that and it would be churlish of me to do otherwise. I would say, however that the meaning is very clear from the line so it wouldn’t need to be in common use. I do think for a quickie that setters should be wary of words which are dated and especially of words which in the 21st century only ever crop up in cryptic crosswords.
                        1. A playwright usually wants their characters to sound natural, with a vocab fitting their station.
                        2. You don’t want to let this go do you? . – perhaps GBS being Irish had absorbed a bit of Americana – I’m speculating – so are you. My basic point holds – it’s 2020 more than 100 years after that play. OK I can find it more recently in American fiction. I think it was too obscure but it wasn’t the worst clue that day.
  13. Unusually for a Friday I finished all but three. I put in REIKI without noticing the (presumed) error until it was flagged up.

    Thanks to all.

    Diana

  14. … with rather too many obscurities for it to be fun. And outright errors too I think. I missed the mis-cluing in 19A Reiki; I had R.I.I from the checkers so put it in without thinking too hard, but I was another caught by pollack/pollock and spent a wee while wondering about places in Corsica beginning with O. I thought setters were meant to indicate mis-spellings?

    Also 24A Turnpike – is this not “only in USA”? And do setters not usually highlight non-British usage?

    I have commented above on the one-letter-short-of-a-pangram, which does seem an odd target for the setter to set himself!

    All in all, a puzzle which leaves me scratching my head a bit. 12 minutes in all.

    Thanks to John for the blog, interesting as always, and I very much look forward to the weekend special. A good weekend to all.

    Cedric

    1. I thought ‘turnpike’ was originally English and was taken to the USA with the settlers. Wiki tells me it was first used in 1663 for a section of the Great North Road Road in Herts., Beds., and Hunts. Just for info. 😉

      Edited at 2020-07-31 09:46 am (UTC)

    2. POLLACK is a perfectly acceptable spelling of the fish, not a mis-spelling, even if POLLOCK seems to be more common now. Its Latin name is pollachius pollachius after all!

      Edited at 2020-07-31 10:16 am (UTC)

      1. Thanks to both for the replies! I understood “turnpike” to be a tollgate in British English, which led to “a turnpike road” for a road with a toll, which then led to the shortening “turnpike” but the last only in the US.

        As for the alternative spelling of the fish, fair enough I suppose, but I think the balance of voices on this thread suggest it usually has the O. Setters can of course use less common spellings but I see that as more a 15×15 game than QC land!

        Cedric

  15. By far my best time of the week at 30:38, except, unfortunately, I had AGLIPONY for the the unknown herb at 13d and ASALCIO for the Corsican location. I’d like to think I have a reasonably good general knowledge of world geography, but if Ajaccio is somewhere in the back of my mind, it didn’t present itself in time. It may have done if I had noticed the near-pangram, mind (maybe Breadman is aiming for a set of 26 lipograms). I was probably lucky to get as close as I did to that one, as I spelt POLLACK with an A without thinking about it, but having had the alternative spelling pointed out, I realise that is the one I am most familiar with for the fish. I did wonder about the irregular “i” in REIKI, but I had heard of it so it had to be. According to Wikipedia it was only developed in Japan in 1922, so hardly an ancient therapy. I don’t think I’ve come across TEC for detective (it’s usually DI or CID it seems) so I’m glad to have learned that one, and to be reminded of jack for sailor. Anyway thanks as usual.
    1. I agree on the fish spelling! I took a lot of time on that part of the puzzle because I doubted myself.
  16. I started really quickly and the LHS of the grid was all done in under 4 minutes. Then I ground to a halt. The REIKI cluing really annoyed me particularly as the final I was a checker for AGRIMONY which I guessed. The two clues that finished me off though were EXOCET (backward tec!) and AJACCIO neither of which were helpfully clued. I guessed AmAtCIO for the Corsican location. Not a good week.
  17. DNF on AJACCIO (in a QC? seriously? – I guessed ASALCIO); 2K for the rest. What with that, AGRIMONY and the REIKI cock-up, this was a Meh Day. I confidently predict that John’s weekend puzzle will be a lot better than this one!

    FOI THAW, LOI (that was correct) AGRIMONY, COD ASTONISH.

    Thanks Breadman and John.

    Templar

  18. A frustrating day with my slowest time for a QC for ages at 24 minutes. I knew REIKI but the answer didn’t fit the clue, so hesitated over that. NHO AJACCIO, so no chance without using aids. EXOCET and AGRIMONY were ok (I was actually in the Falklands in 82 so the former was a write-in).. I eventually finished with a remaining spelling mistake in the film maker, after discovering AJACCIO which fixed the other one – who spells Sidney with two Ys? Not my finest hour!
    1. Looked up map of Corsica and mysterious remembered Agrimony. Once had a pleasant Reiki treatment even, but stupidly failed on Israeli.

      Thanks for blog.

  19. After 30 mins had everything apart from 23ac and 13dn and in the end DNF.

    As I was working through it I couldn’t believe the amount of GK needed. NHO of Ajaccio and only vaguely recall Agrimony from previous puzzles. But the capital of Ecuador? Japanese therapy? Thankfully I knew my US directors and 90’s films.

    I don’t mind a tough puzzle, but this felt more on par with the 15×15 for knowledge required. Not really that enjoyable.

    FOI – 10ac “Torte”
    LOI – DNF
    COD – 1dn “Terabyte”

    Thanks as usual

  20. Atlas, Samson, or Hercules maybe – but I don’t consider TARZAN to legendary. It’ll be James Bond next if we allow such nonsense to persist.

    THIS WAS WAY TOO COMPLICATED FOR A QC !!!!

    Fortunately, my years of 15×15 and Mephisto, plus my RAGBAG of GK, see me 5th on the leaderboard (I suspect two above me are neutrinos) as I fairly flew through it, but as a QC it displeased me.

    FOI THAW
    LOI ASTONISH
    COD AGRIMONY (though some will share my acrimony)
    TIME 3:58

    1. Abramowitz and Margaut are neutrinos, the others ahead of you aren’t. I agree with you about Tarzan, and (and with others) about the difficulty level.
  21. Had some lucky guesses today. Reiki went straight in without noticing the clue error. Dragged Ajaccio out of my memory but did not parse it. Decided aglipony looked wrong and went for agrimony as it rang a vague bell. No problem on the spelling of the fish – but forget to re-read the clue and bunged in Sidney. Heigh ho!

    Thanks blogger and setter
    Penny

  22. Not a good end to the week. I knew Exocet, and had come across Reiki, but had never heard of Agrimony nor Ajaccio, so the O starter (Pollock) was neither here nor there. Poor choice of clue for a QC, Editor. CoD to 3ac, Astonish, for briefly letting me wonder how Ann (Bryce) would fit into the answer… 😉 Invariant
  23. Done in 2 sittings. I knew Ajaccio as the birthplace of Napoleon.
    Noticed the reiki error. Not sure I would pay someone to wave their hands in the air.
    Struggled to get away from Sidney poitier.
    LOI aglipony/agrimony. Poor clue.

    COD trainspotting. Hard to forget the Begbie glass throw and the toilet scene!

  24. All but 17a done in 10 minutes, but then spent a couple more trying to think of -i- for ‘end’, including V to complete the pangram. When eventually Vin gave me the answer I was glad to have finished and submitted without typo check – so inevitably there were a couple.
  25. This was a 27-minute struggle for me and I had to biff AJACCIO and AGRIMONY but it’s comforting to know that these were problematic for other bloggers.
    Too many GK clues for a QC imho but thanks to Breadman for the challenge.
    I was also confused by the misdirection at 19A but didn’t think it could possibly be REIKS.
    There were a few easy ones along the way though – TORTE, BASIC and UTTER – and I have chosen TERABYTE as my COD for its satisfying structure.
    Thanks to John for his informative blog and for providing us with another weekend puzzle.

    Edited at 2020-07-31 01:32 pm (UTC)

  26. Knew most of the GK including Ajaccio but initially put in Reiks as per my understanding of the wordplay. Changed it to the known Reiki but Agrimony stumped me.

    Despite not finishing I liked this puzzle. First in Thaw and last in the unlikely and wrong Aglidony.

  27. Maybe the heat makes my brain work better – either that or chewing on a (still unfinished) fish-themed Guardian puzzle all morning made this see easier. I had all the GK except for AGRIMONY, which I felt was more likely than AGLIPONY. Didn’t notice the REIKI error.

    Rare sub-K at 5:54.

  28. This looked more like a general knowledge crossword than a cryptic, as noted by several others. Luckily I had all the GK required for this and I completely failed to notice the mis-clueing at 19ac. I thought it was a pangram as I was solving it but never checked at the end to see if it was or not. All finished in 12 minutes or so for my fastest time of the week.

    FOI – 1ac THAW
    LOI – 6dn ISRAELI
    COD – Good clues quite thin on the ground today I thought. I liked 21dn QUIT for the smoothness of the surface and the fact that Ecuadorian capital is at high altitude so you might be short of oxygen!

  29. I rolled back the years to the old days of air travel and recalled Ajaccio as a destination from Luton on easyJet.
    I wrote in reikS as per the clueing. But didn’t know the herb anyhow. Does it cure Covid-brain? Sounds like we all need some. Johnny
  30. Like Vinyl, Breadman certainly had my number today. 14:50 to very carefully come home with AJACCIO and EXOCET gotten very carefully from wordplay to make sure I didn’t spell Mr Pollack incorrectly and incur any pink squares! And AGRIMONY was just a good guess.

    Edited at 2020-07-31 01:20 pm (UTC)

  31. Also, forgive me if someone has pointed this out already but the number of the puzzle is 1669.
  32. Much too hard for a QC. Needed multiple aids to finish. NHO Ajaccio or the film director or agrimony and not being able to fit LIP into the AGONY was a problem. Also frustrating to have a clueing error and a nearly but not quite pangram
  33. Held up by reiki, even though I knew agrimony. 9:45.

    Anyway, thanks for Summer Holidays. 15d was new to me – I’d have always used an ‘i’.

    1. Yes. It is a less common word with a slightly different meaning. The “i” version means cruel and without feeling, whereas the correct answer means not homo sapiens. It’s not a great word. but needs must when trying to complete a grid! At least it’s not REIKI or AGRIMONY.
  34. Posting very late today, despite doing this mid-morning. I didn’t find this as difficult as some, coming in under 10 minutes, but I agree that the vocab was quite tricky for a quickie. I’m another one who didn’t take much notice of the spelling of REIKI, but AJACCIO and AGRIMONY went in fully parsed. I think the GK did help me TBH. But for some reason, it took me ages to see 1a. Maybe my brain was melting at that point!

    FOI Astonish
    LOI Thaw
    COD Nothing really jumps out although I was pleased to work out TERABYTE purely from wordplay
    Time 9 and a bit minutes

    Thanks Breadman and John – looking forward to the weekend fun!

    I see there’s a new Penny on the block! Welcome

  35. Just managed to complete today’s 15×15, though I didn’t do it in one sitting or time it. I hadn’t heard of quite a few of the words, but a fair bit of it was quite easy and it was all gettable from wordplay, so it might be one to have a go at for anybody trying to make the step up.
  36. Top half went in easily, then it became slower. DNK 13d agrimony so had to use an aid to complete puzzle. 23a was dredged up from memory – having spent a few years travelling for business, especially Europe, i guess it was lodged in subliminal memory from scanning departure boards but I’m cured of travelling for leisure so have never visited. 19a I took as reik as alternates plus the first of ‘is’ and worried no further. FOI 1a Thaw LOI 13d Agimony after checking. COD 12a Exocet with no questions asked as happy with tec as short for detective.
  37. Did this late after being out golfing all day. Frazzled is the word I would use to describe myself. The sun was merciless!. Anyway, I did this in 10:13, but with ASALCIO, not having remembered AJACCIO from a 15×15 it turned up in some while ago, I think. Have come across REIKI before so didn’t look too closely at the clue and missed the error. Wrote in POLLACK automatically. My accustomed spelling! A bit of a stretch for a QC in my opinion too. Thanks Breadman and John.

    Edited at 2020-07-31 10:06 pm (UTC)

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