Times Quick Cryptic 2220 by Breadman

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1. Much more familiar with MONIKER, sans the C, and took several seconds to think of the Indian city and realize OUTCRY was an anagram, crossing it, but I always have a nervous slowdown on the last two, after filling in the rest about as fast as I can write. Seems like a real Monday—just waiting to see the 15×15 blogged. (Was a bit lonely here Sunday. What was everybody doing?)

   1. I did my best!

      1. Indeed!

2. I finished this in 14:26 with at least three of those minutes on MONICKER my LOI. I was sure I was looking for a word for Thief. But I was also struggling with what to do with ‘second’. When in doubt, Tina, maybe think whether there are other meanings of words besides the surface?

   I nho ERNST nor ILLRYIAN but the wordplay/checkers were clear for both. I faffed around with an appropriate shortening of ‘younger’ but I got it right.

   I knew the geography stuff (always easier for me when it’s Asian instead of European) and got the religious clue right so great day for me.

   All in all a great Monday. Thanks all!

3. 15:12. REFUSAL, OUTCRY and MONICKER took the most time. Needed blog to fully parse OFF AND ON , NOEL, DIOCESE and BULL’S EYE-thanks. I thought first of Barabbas as name of second thief but circumstances forced me to abandon that bit of inspiration! P.S. Shakespeare’s Twelfth Night takes place in Illyria.

   1. Thanks. Yes I knew Illyria as the setting for Twelfth Night as that was where I first heard of it, assuming at the time that it was fictional. I had every intention of mentioning this in the blog but somehow it slipped my mind at the critical moment of writing about the clue.

4. I biffed BULLS EYE & FORTUNATELY, parsed post-submission; they both required some time to parse. For what it’s worth, “Twelfth Night” is set in Illyria. CHENNAI was my LOI; I was trying to think of a specific breed of dog before realizing that it was (CANINE)*. 4:55.

5. A medium puzzle, IMO. i quickly saw mead and nastier, and went on from there. As you get more experience, the correct answer starts to pop into your head, and you can either parse it or just put it in. This happened with lasso, off and on, and diocese. I only bothered to parse diocese, because I didn’t have much faith it was the right answer – but then I saw it.

   Time: 8:53.

6. Amazingly managed to finish this one despite a river AND a foreign city!

   MONICKER was my LOI as I have never, ever seen it spelled with the C. Learn something new every day! Also had never heard of LOB=SHY or a coconut shy. Confess I thought ILLYRIAN was what Tolkien’s elves spoke … *embarrassment*

   However, the clue that really got my brain hopelessly tangled was 16d. I’d put ASSYRIAN for 23a so I had _R_E_S and became absolutely certain that the low grades were EF and the exam was BRIEFS — maybe England’s version of the bar exam, I mused – and then realized that made the “stressful experience” BRIS … ! Forced myself to walk away from the puzzle for a bit at that point, hahahaha

   1. Hi five for the finish!

      I think ‘exam’ has almost always been either ‘oral’ or ‘test’ in these qcs so far so I always start with that first.

      I’m pretty sure Tolkien elves speak Quenya but I s2g if I see that in a crossword I will pitch a fit 😂

      1. Most of the elves in Lord of the Rings speak Sindarian. Quenya is spoken by a few of the Noldor.

         1. I love that someone knows this

7. Missed my train so did this leisurely in the cafe. NHO ILLYRIA – having read Twelfth Night seems like it might have helped – but clued fairlyish. Also NHO ERNST. Otherwise good progress after a slow start.

8. Started with MONICKER and finished with FORTUNATELY. No dramas. 7:29. Thanks Breadman and Jack.

9. 19 minutes with a chunk of the time in the SE.
   FOI: MEAD followed by MONICKER and all its hangers.
   LOI: ORDEAL.
   I spent several minutes on 23ac initially writing ASSYRIAN to one side then seeing no donkeys are involved and the young Scot was unwell. The parsing got me to ILLYRIAN.

10. 7’21” had BULLSEYE in then took it out as too obvious and thought ‘Rot’s primarily’ would mean ‘R’ had to be in there somewhere – put it back in with the ‘Y’ of OUTCRY in and needed the blog to explain the parsing.

    Held up at the last by ORDEAL – but shouldn’t have been.

    Thanks Breadman and Jackkt

11. 21 minutes for me.
    FOI Arson
    LOI Ordeal
    COD Appropriate
    Biffed BullsEye and Slob but having seen the explanations, both are clearer now.
    Good start to the week for me!

12. A good QC with enough food for thought on a Monday morning. I went through it smoothly leaving a hole for my LOI 1a. Under target by half a minute (within a second of Tina’s time) so I was content with that.
    Some good clues but a MER for YR (younger). I was helped by seeing the long answers very quickly opening up the rest of the puzzle. Thanks to both. John M.

    1. I also looked twice at YR/younger but I checked and it’s in the usual sources.

13. A quick solve was derailed by missing the anagram for OUTCRY and then not being able to get past ASSYRIAN, even though it wouldn’t parse (unsurprisingly). The penny finally dropped which allowed me to see what was going on with LOI ORDEAL, where I had been trying to fit test around something.
    Crossed the line in 8.16 with WOD to MONICKER and COD to APPROPRIATE.
    Thanks to Jack

14. 8:15 (which is my new PB!), with a number of clues left unparsed while solving.

    1. Pb! Pb! Pb!

15. I did remember “What country, friends, is this?” “This is Illyria, lady” for some highbrow points.

    On the other hand, I Ninja Turtled my way to CHENNAI, only knowing it through a Barmy Army song about Graeme Swann set to the tune of Champagne Supernova (“A Swanny super over in Chennai”, since you ask). Took a long time to see how LOI OUTCRY worked.

    COD FORTUNATELY, time 08:04 for 1.7K and a Decent Day.

    Many thanks Breaders and Jack.

    Templar

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16. Enjoyed this and enjoyed the 15 x 15. A very good Monday. Thanks all.

17. I found this quite a hard start to the week, so wasn’t surprised to drift into the SCC via the nho Illyrian – it looked slightly more plausible than Illyoian, but still a guess. Monicker was another that took time to see. Overall, I thought Breadman was trying too hard to squeeze in some unusual cluing styles, but my CoD vote still goes to one of them: 20ac, Diocese. Invariant

18. Enjoyable puzzle. Fast to start with then stuck temporarily on LOsI ORDEAL and ILLYRIAN.
    Must admit there was a lot of biffing before parsing. FOI INDUSTRIOUS.
    Thanks vm, Jack. Actually you can get used to Retsina and eventually enjoy it, if you drink enough.

    1. My strategy with Retsina was to imagine I was going to be swallowing a mouthful of turpentine and then when the actual wine hit my tastebuds it wasn’t half bad.

       1. 😀

    2. It was drinking too much of it once many years ago that put me off it for life. Up till then I’d had the occasional glass and thought it okay if not exactly to my taste. Even the thought of it now makes me feel ill.

19. 17 mins…

    Overall, I enjoyed this and a good start to week after last Friday’s disaster.

    Hesitated over 23ac, as I didn’t know it, but the checkers were kind and I couldn’t see what else it could be. Liked 12dn “Off And On”, 10dn “Fortunately” and 11ac “Industrious” – some good ikea-like clues with amusing surfaces.

    FOI – 8ac “Arson” – a classic
    LOI -1ac “Monicker”
    COD – 9ac “Refusal”

    Thanks as usual!

    PS. Couldn’t access the blog for the weekend cryptic from John, not sure if it’s a technical hitch or just me.

    1. The link from here to the weekend cryptic just had an error in the URL. (A mistake I’ve made many times myself!) You can find it here: https://reinterred.blogspot.com/2022/09/weekend-quick-cryptic-59-i-cant-see.html

       1. I have just checked and see what you mean. I have contacted John and I am sure that he will sort it out.

       2. Apologies for that. I neglected to check the link in the extract that is shown in the blog list. Now corrected.

20. I thought this quite gentle. No problem with ILLYRIAN, remembered from crosswords past. I did pause for a bit over BULL’S EYE until I eventually equated ROT with BULL. After completing my first pass of clues, having all of the checkers in place, APPROPRIATE and REFUSAL went in without reading the clues again. Thanks Breadman and Jackkt. 3:44.

21. Needed a little help with some of the clues, otherwise completed with no real problems.

22. 11 minutes and a half for me, having seen MONICKER on reading the first clue, and then getting all the descenders for a very quick start. ORDEAL was LOI, ILLYRIAN from the very clear wordplay, and just a small pause over the spelling of CHENNAI. Many thanks both, and thankfully my brain is still functioning after a weekend Navy reunion (55 years) which made some excessive demands on me.

23. It wasn’t so much ASSYRIAN that tripped me up but trying to fit BABYLONIAN in that stumped me! I’m definitely getting *clever* at separating the two words at the start of the clue, eg canine barking I immediately thought what if barking is the anagrind? This blog is really helping my skills so, as well as hearty thanks to jackkt and Breadman, thanks to all contributors on here.

    1. You’re getting the hang of it – great news! It’s fun once everything starts to fall into place, isn’t it 😊

       1. Trouble is, as soon as “everything starts to fall into place”, it all falls out again.

          1. 🙂

          2. 😅

       2. 👍🏼❤️

24. “FORTUNATELY, baby, I’d already joined the force” (Jack Bruce :’Never Tell Your Mother She’s Out Of Tune’)

    And FORTUNATELY I was happy to shrug off the C in MONICKER, while ILLYRIAN jumped off the screen at me on the second pass through the clues.

    Crazy artists here once (7). I’ll get use to these PC names eventually.

    FOI SLOB
    LOI APPROPRIATE
    COD DIOCESE
    TIME 3:39

25. 5:21

    For a while I thought I was going to be slower on this than the 15×15 as nothing came to me on the first five acrosses other than ARSON but it all fell into place in the end, albeit a little over target time.

    I did want to thank the setter for some really good clues, notably for MONICKER, REFUSAL INDUSTRIOUS, FORTUNATELY and ORDEAL. It must be trickier to come up with clever clue ideas for the QC than the 15×15.

26. With all but one done in under 10 minutes, I nearly put PUNCHY at LOI 14a. But of course it does not parse. A minute or so of reflection got me to OUTCRY, the only clue I really struggled with today.
    So 11 minutes in the end. And I have time today for the 15×15.
    COD to OUTCRY. Good puzzle.
    David

27. Very happy with my time of 16:23, a good few minutes of which were spent on ILLYRIAN. I initially invented ILLYSIAN and so wished Sian was a Scotsman’s name… Needed the blog for BULLSEYE, and all the checkers for MONICKER, my COD. Very enjoyable. Thanks Jack and Breadman.

28. 10 mins
    Nice puzzle.
    Thanks, jack.

29. Upper end of target for me. No problem with ILLYRIAN, it was APPROPRIATE that took me a while, and was my LOI, even with all those checker.

    Favourite was probably FORTUNATELY.

    6:19

30. I was sailing along quite nicely after about eight minutes when I got to my last two 1ac and 14ac. OUTCRY took me far longer than it should as I failed to form a simple anagram for a while, and MONICKER seemed to take me an eternity to solve. Made it in the end in 13.09, but not really with it today. Hoping for better on the 15×15.

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