Times Cryptic 29486

 

I found this very hard in places. I took 1 hour but used aids for my last one in and later found an error at 1dn.

As usual definitions are underlined in bold italics, {deletions and substitutions are in curly brackets} and [anagrinds, containment, reversal and other indicators in square ones]. “Aural wordplay” is in quotation marks. I now use a tilde sign ~ to indicate an insertion point in containment clues. I usually omit all reference to juxtaposition indicators unless there is a specific point that requires clarification.

Across
1 Be on mobile phone with old person preferring old-style landline? (8)
NEOPHOBE – Anagram [mobile] of PHONE O (old), then BE
5 Nick mostly outside playing piece of music (6)
SONATA – S~ATA{n} (Nick – the devil) [mostly] containing [outside] ON (playing)
9 Upright character enthralled by visits to nymph (8)
CALLISTO – I (upright character) contained [enthralled] by CALL~S (visits), TO
10 Tried hard with slow movement, but one’s dropped out (3,1,2)
HAD A GO – H (hard), ADAG{i}O (slow movement) [one’s dropped out]
12 Drunken wager in hotel bar? (8,4)
WATERING HOLE – Anagram [drunken] of WAGER IN HOTEL. One of many British euphemisms for a pub – a little more elegant than boozer!
15 Old star, no good in Oxford college (5)
ORIEL – O (old), RI{g}EL (star) [no good]
16 Plan a chemist worked out for carbon capture (9)
SCHEMATIC – Anagram [worked out) of A CHEMIST containing [for…capture] C (carbon). I checked that although ‘schematic’ is more usually an adjective it can also be a noun.
18 Walk round area with power to get vote (5,4)
STRAW POLL – STR~OLL (walk) containing [round] A (area) + W (with) + P (power).
19 The Parisian fellow is deceived (3,2)
LED ON – LE (‘the’ Parisian), DON (fellow)
20 A dear cat isn’t to be disturbed in garden plant (12)
TRADESCANTIA – Anagram [ to be disturbed] of A DEAR CAT ISN’T. I waited for all the checkers and then added the remaining anagrist to make something plausible. This has come up here on a couple of previous occasions but I can’t say I remembered it.
24 Each baked item has excellent crust (6)
APIECE – PIE (baked item) contained by [has…crust] A~CE (excellent)
25 Three characters in succession ’arass traitor? (8)
DEFECTOR – D E F (three characters in succession), {h}ECTOR (‘arass)
26 Socialist sets on opponents at the table (6)
ENGELS – E N (opponents at the table – East and North at bridge), GELS (sets)
27 Funny show inadequate, now sadly a disappointment (8)
COMEDOWN – COMED{y} (funny show) [inadequate], anagram [sadly] of NOW
Down
1 Something groovy — a hit on the radio (4)
NOCK – Aural wordplay [on the radio]: “knock” (hit). I had NICK.  I wasn’t happy with  my answer but it was all I could find to fit the checkers that satisfied at least part of the clue. Collins defines NOCK as: 1. a notch on an arrow that fits on the bowstring, 2. either of the grooves at each end of a bow that hold the bowstring. If I ever knew this I had forgotten it.
2 City workers’ industrial action has no limits (4)
OSLO – {g}O SLO{w} (workers’ industrial action) [has no limits]
3 One due to inherit fantastic wealth including a lot of land (4-2-3)
HEIR-AT-LAW – Anagram [fantastic] of WEALTH containing [including] IRA{n} (land) [a lot of…]. This rang a faint bell.
4 First sign of bitterness, say, with strong drink’s flavouring (12)
BUTTERSCOTCH – B{itterness} [first sign of…], UTTER (say), SCOTCH (strong drink). My AI assistant advises: The flavour originated in Doncaster, England, in the early 19th century. The most widely accepted history traces it back to Samuel Parkinson, a confectioner who began selling “Doncaster Butterscotch” in 1817. It became so popular that it eventually received a Royal Warrant from Queen Victoria in 1851.
6 Mammal round mountains endlessly (5)
ORANG – O (round),  RANG{e} (mountains) [endlessly]
7 Like a diet of alien, with a pungent spice (10)
ASAFOETIDA – AS (like), anagram [alien] of A DIET OF, then A. This would have been my last one in but I knew I wouldn’t know the word  so I cut my losses and reached for the Word Wizard. It has appeared before in a Sunday Times puzzle and 3 Jumbos, most recently in 2024, but I didn’t recognise it.
8 Teenager maybe soaring, having received financial help (10)
ADOLESCENT – A~SCENT (soaring) containing [having received] DOLE (financial help)
11 Artist, male, one facing challenge rendered circle (12)
MICHELANGELO – M (male), I (one), anagram [rendered] of CHALLENGE, then O (circle)
13 Put artist into mob to negotiate effectively (5-5)
HORSE-TRADE – SET (put) + RA (artist) contained by [into] HOR~DE (mob)
14 Left one quiet Berkshire town getting message silently (3-7)
LIP-READING – L (left), I (one), P (quiet), READING (Berkshire town)
17 Little creature struggled to walk, beginning to meander off in distance (9)
MILLIPEDE – LI{m}PED (struggled to walk) [beginning to meander off] contained by [in] MIL~E (distance)
21 Old learner heard to get top grades? (5)
EXCEL – Aural wordplay [heard]: “Ex” (old), “L” (learner)
22 Emperor, someone very funny cycling around (4)
OTHO – HO/OT (someone very funny} cycling around becomes the Roman Emperor OTHO
23 Measure of certain fish caught and smuggled (4)
CRAN – C (caught), RAN (smuggled). Collins: a unit of capacity used for measuring fresh herring, equal to 37.5 gallons. A word I learnt from crosswords many decades ago.

37 comments on “Times Cryptic 29486”

  1. DNF
    like Jack, I put in NICK faute de mieux, although looking at the definitions now, I think I vaguely knew NOCK; not that I’d ever have thought of it. I also put in NERO (one-r cycled), which of course put paid to DEFECTOR. Biffed TRADESCANTIA (knew the person, dnk the eponymous plant) and ASAFOETIDA (thought it was a herb).

  2. 17:03. Thank goodness we’ve moved on from obscurities like WATUSI to familiar everyday words like ASAFOETIDA and TRADESCENTIA! Think I’ll celebrate with a CRAN of herring.

    Good challenge today, liked OSLO. Thanks setter and Jack.

  3. I had never heard of NOCK, my POI—before I worked out the NHO TRADESCANTIA. Two plants clued by anagrams, damn!—but I knew the other one. CRAN as a measure of herring was a NHO too; Collins says the origin is unknown, but there is a French word spelled the same that seems related to “measure,” via “notch.”

    1. I believe that a flick knife is known in French as a “couteau à cran d’arrêt”, presumably because the locking mechanism includes a notch.

  4. Serious question: Is there some Cryptic Tournament of Champions coming up soon over there across the pond? I’m not used to seeing this much gobbledygook on Monday and Tuesday until September.

  5. Liked this one. I wouldn’t recognise a tradescantia, not a native species, but i did know the word. Similarly asafoetida, an ingredient of Worcester sauce. No, it was the little words that held me up, nock, Otho (nho) and cran. Good stuff.

  6. 22.34 but held up in the NW corner where I needed aids for BUTTERSCOTCH and NEOPHOBE (both LOI and COD). Pleasing and elegant puzzle.
    Thanks J and setter.

  7. DNF doing the old Eric Morecambe with all the right letters in the wrong places for the spice and the flower. Like others I had NICK as no other alternative came to mind, and I had OTTO (“toot”? nah…) though I did know him as a Holy Roman Emperor.
    Thought I did well with everything else but without the GK it was too much of a lottery for me.
    Thanks Jackkt and setter

  8. 49 minutes. Two hard ones to start the week. I somehow knew TRADESCANTIA and ASAFOETIDA but the ‘Emperor’ OTHO was an NHO, for which I went down the same route as Kevin and Guy with an initial NERO. The four-letter words were no write-ins; I recognised CRAN from previous appearances but submitted NOCK with fingers crossed, not being certain if the last letter was a K or an H.

  9. Same as Jack and others, an incorrect NICK and an aided ASAFOETIDA. I think unknown emperors should be banned from cycling but I did get him. I’ve usually grown TRADESCANTIA indoors. COD to LIP-READING. Thank you Jack and setter.

  10. DNF, with an incorrect NICK, a stupid ORIOL (got the bird and the college mixed up, and had forgotten the star), TRATESCANDIA (guessed the middle T and the D wrongly) and an invented ITWO rather than the unknown OTHO (‘someone very funny’ could be ‘wit’, it sounds like he could have been an African emperor).

    – Took ages to construct the unfamiliar HEIR-AT-LAW, and even when I got it I initially thought the land in question was Eire, until looking at the anagrist helped me realise it was Iran
    – Can’t recall seeing ORANG without ‘utan’ very often
    – Would have misspelled MICHELANGELO were it not for the checkers, anagrist and enumeration
    – Had no idea how MILLIPEDE worked
    – Trusted the wordplay for the unfamiliar CRAN

    Not a good day for me, but thanks Jack and setter.

    COD Watering hole

  11. I am getting the impression that the Times has no interest in appealing to young people. This is such a frustrating crossword. There are about 10 pieces of obscure knowledge which I don’t have and/or vocabulary that someone born after 1990 would never use. I don’t think I know anyone my age who could have finished this. Is that the target?

    NOCK is very obscure, and clued by a homophone of a word which has about 20 synonyms. TRADESCANTIA is a complete unknown, even though I like gardening. Nobody young refers to someone funny as a ‘hoot’ (my mum does…).

    I completed this in 29:37, but had two errors. I misspelled TRADESCENTIA (E rather than A), and I guessed the emperor might be Otto. There was a Holy Roman Emperor called Otto, and Toto (cycling) seems like a clown. I found it therefore a bit unfair, into the bargain.

    So I’m afraid this doesn’t meet my criteria for fun.

  12. 30 mins. Much more enjoyable today, the NHOs being somehow less intrusive. CRAN and OTHO were fairly clued, VHO NOCK and the legalese. Also NHO NEOPHOBE but that was great fun.
    As boltonW says TRADESCANTIA is better known in the UK as a houseplant but there are hardy species.
    ASAFOETIDA means foul wind and is aptly named, avoid it.
    Good puzzle that could have been even better with Sawbill’s WATERING HOLE clue. Thanks jackkt and setter.

  13. Gave up on the hour with 5 unanswered. I’ll let you guess which ones. Not enjoyable, too many unknowns clued as anagrams or bicycles!

    Ta jack.

  14. Pleased to have got through this without aids, in about half an hour, only to find a DNF I had OTTO not OTHO. Thinking TOTO the clown (sort of) recycled. Seems as good to me as the NHO emperor, there were a few OTTOs who were emperors. The spelling of ASAFOETIDA took a bit of thought although I knew the smelly spice. And knew what a NOCK was. The plant was a plump-for once all the checkers were there.

    1. Fully agree on OTTO – I think that’s an unfair clue. I had VHO OTTO and TOTO, but not OTHO and HOOT would never occur to me.

  15. Until recently I felt I was making a good fist of progressing to the 15×15 from the QC. Thursdays and Fridays were always a disaster, but the rest of the week’s crosswords were very rewarding. Has there been a change in editorial policy? The last few weeks have been quite dispiriting.

  16. 21.22. So age has its benefits, apparently, though I would suggest doing the Mephisto on a regular basis might also be an asset. Age also means that recondite plants have to be recovered from the mists of a faltering memory. It can also mean that you think CALLIOPE was the nymph and MICHELANGELO has another A.
    OTHO was my tentative entry after OTTO failed; anyone after I CLAVDIVS is rather hazy.
    I’ve archered, so NOCK was not an issue.
    Is there anything of current significance in having a dismembered Iran as part of a clue? Perhaps our setter was intending Iraq to avoid controversy. I have to admit that having discarded hEIR[E]-at-law, I didn’t properly check.
    Sympathies, Jack, on enduring such a grid laden with pitfalls.

  17. 34:00 Tough but worth the effort. Both NOCK or HEIR AT LAW new to me. TRADESCANTIA and ASAFOETIDA have been gleaned from crosswords past and CRAN from a pub quiz. COD NEOPHOBE (shared with Sawbill’s WATERING HOLE)

    Thaks to Jack and the setter

  18. Finished in about 50 minutes but only with aid for the spice. Once found, it did seem as though it should have been somewhere in what remains of my memory but was definitely beyond recall. NOCK was ok by me. CALLISTO was a bit of a BIFF, as was OTHO.
    Surprised that the Snitch was not higher. Agree that the general standard has been more challenging of late.
    Thanks to setter and Jack.

  19. Had NERO, then OTTO — before finally deciding that “He’s a TOOT” is not current English, whereas “He’s a HOOT” is. CRAN does indeed mean NOTCH in French. That’s got to be intentional — the NOCK/CRAN pairing. Loved 1 across. Many thanks. All done in 20’38”.

  20. Somehow I knew all the tricky words like ASAFOETIDA and TRADESCANTIA, and the short ones that could easily have tripped me up were all more or less OK. I knew NOCK because I once knew someone with that surname and found it in a dictionary. CRAN was known through crosswords. OSLO came fairly quickly after I’d decided that Trik wasn’t a city. So an unusually smooth solve.

  21. My thanks to jackkt and setter.
    I found it V hard, cheating quite a lot and still not finishing.
    10a Had a go, DNF, added to Cheating Machine. In retrospect this is good.
    16a Schematic. As a noun I don’t equate it with plan, but it could be a working drawing at a push.
    20a Tradescantia. Mum was fond of these but I didn’t know how to spell them. Had always assumed tradIscantHia because that’s how she said it.
    1d Nock. Mum and Dad both did archery a bit, so easy given n?c?.
    2d Olso, clever.
    7d NHO Asafoetida. Not pleased to find this. Cheated of course.
    22d Otho must have come up before because he is in C.M. and I would have said NHO but clearly just forgotten.

  22. 27:30 – tough. CRAN unknown and ASAFOE-thingy finally anagrammed into submission towards the end. Seems to be an unusually tricky start to the week.

  23. DNF. Mostly easy, until 4 final unknowns. CRAN clued easily, Considered NICK for NOCK in a cricketing sense – he’s nicked it/he’s hit it, so he’s out – but that was same spelling not a homophone so it had to be an obscurity. Guessed T and D correctly in the NHO (forgotten!) plant. But then failed on OTHO – he was a hoot, maybe a toot as well? Don’t know my Roman emperors but guessed there were more than one or two from Germanic areas called Otto. Oh, well.

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