Times Cryptic 28718

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1. 20:47. Felt on my game and on the wavelength this evening. Needed a good chunk of time to carefully work out the lower-left corner, with its BITTER, MANX, ALIBI combination. BREATHER was my last one in, hard to parse.

2. For 26, the definition is just ‘Intimate’ (a verb rather than adjective in this case)

   1. Thanks. Duly amended.

3. I liked Breather and I really liked the nine cats – let me just pause to say “Wow” – and I found a couple of the synonyms to be OK, but only after I’d squinted a little. Nice Tuesday. Wow again. Thx jack

4. A clever puzzle, a lot of which passed me by as I bunged in the obvious answers. I did realize that intimate was a verb, but the anagram example completely passed me by. Both splendour and platitude were very tough, as I just couldn’t think of the right synonyms, although latitude was on the tip of my brain.

   Time: 47 minutes.

5. Epic fail here. Never heard of SUPER SET, but really just beaten by a better team on the day, Gary.

6. Excellent puzzle, which I found very tricky. Lots of well-hidden anagrams, including nine cats/instance, Victoriana and cognitive dissonance. Filling in bits and pieces here and there, occasionally stalling, until it all came together in a rush.

7. Started at the bottom with MIND’S EYE and all its crossers, and three-fourths of this was so easy it seemed I was going to breeze right through. But I eventually slowed to a crawl with several blanks still left in the SW (though I had ALIBI early). GIVE NOTICE I’ve always taken to mean giving a more forthright statement than INTIMATE seems to imply, but the anagram is very neat (as is “nine cats”!). BOX SEAT might have come more readily if I’d ever been in one. I finally guessed the wordplay part of MANX, which seemed the only possible answer by that time anyway, as it was my LOI. But BITTERN isn’t hard at all and yet it took me a while to spot the bird. It was a long day.

8. 25:44
   This was something of a struggle. Biffed MANX, VICTORIANA, & TAIWANESE, never parsed them. DNK NOSE-TO-TAIL but it was obvious with a few checkers. A SUPERSET needn’t be large: the set of all Disney dwarves is a superset, of which Dopey is a subset. Liked GIVE NOTICE–although like Guy I take ‘intimate’ to mean more ‘suggest’ than’ clearly state’ (“‘You’re fired!’ he intimated” sounds rather like Ring Lardner’s “‘Shut up!’ he explained”.) COD to ANAGRAM.

   1. I think it is fine to say a SUPERSET is large, even though it can be the same size as the set of which it is a superset. Trivially (in mathematician speak) the empty set is a superset of the empty set since it contains all the elements (none) of the empty set. And the empty set is not large, nothing is smaller.

      1. I don’t follow you. Is it fine to say the empty set (qua superset) is large? I didn’t say a superset is not large, merely that (as with the 7 dwarves) it needn’t be.

      2. Indeed, and mathematical groups are sets with certain operations, so are more than just sets, supersets or not. Does the set of all crossword quibbles contain itself?

9. About 35 for me, excellent puzzle I thought, even if I’ve never heard of people from Manchester being called Mancs. Thought ANAGRAM was totally brilliant once jacckt explained it, as were TAIWANESE, BREATHER, VICTORIANA and several others. GIVE NOTICE, SPLENDOUR and SUPERSET held me up at the end.

10. Had bed rest for 19d which made Manx impossible.

    COD anagram once explained by Jack.
    thanks

    1. I had BED REST for a while, but couldn’t make BEDR mean fight!

11. I loved this puzzle until I got to the last two and could neither see BOX SEAT nor MANX. I thought BED REST for a comfortable position, but couldn’t justify the wordplay except for EST for established. Then, after ages of coming up with nothing bunged in LAND for territory to put myself out of my misery. So no surprise when all that came up pink. So DNF.

    1. 22:52 Nearly a DNF for me too, as I usually give up after 20 mins of operose slog, though I eventually did work out that Manc must be an abbreviation for Mancunian, and a box seat must be some kind of comfortable sitting place. In my experience seats in theatre boxes are usually the same as those in the rest of the theatre, though I suppose the mere fact of being in a box makes the experience more comfortable. COD to the magnificent nine cats!

12. Having biffed AS PER, I was left with the SW corner after around 6 minutes – and THAT turned out to be a tricky proposition. I needed almost a minute to realise that spleen was resentment, but that allowed me to plod through the rest. It took me a little while at the end to realise that ‘intimate’ wasn’t an adjective.

    FOI BANG
    LOI GIVE NOTICE
    COD MANX (as an adoptive “Manc” it caused an audible groan)
    TIME 9:46

    1. I thought of ‘spleen’ right away. But then I needed more than a minute to stop looking for SPL– (half of ‘spleen’)–and to become conscious of what ‘half-hearted’ meant.

13. St. Agnes’ Eve—Ah, bitter chill it was!
    The owl, for all his feathers, was a-cold;
    The hare limp’d trembling through the frozen grass, …
    (Keats)

    Very enjoyable tussle for 40 mins over brekker and beyond – but finally done up like a kipper by Manx/Box Seat.
    Nine Cats was worth the effort on its own.
    Ta setter and J.

    1. Dear Myrtilus, please forgive the intrusion but I have lost track of a poem you cited earlier this year and wondered if you could help. It was, by the sound of it, a 20th century poem and it made reference to music and other delights no longer being the same now that ‘she’ was gone. It was a lot less lame than that description sounds. I made a note at the time to look it up but failed to do so quickly enough and have, of course, now lost the note. I tried the old slog through past blogs without success. Do you recall the poem and if so can you tell me what it is? Regards, Lindsay

       1. Hi
          I think it was (Music I Heard, Conrad Aiken).

          PS IMO, The first two lines are great. Maybe the first verse is good. But it does get a bit ‘lame’ after that.

          1. Thank you! That’s it! Now that I’ve read the whole thing I tend to agree about the later verses, but I’m delighted to have the opportunity to read the full poem and will do my best to hang on to it this time if just for the sake of the magnificent opening. Thanks again, really appreciate it. LO

14. 23’04” LOI BOX SEAT, because I wasn’t sure about the SEAT. Didn’t understand the NINE CATS till it was explained here, so thanks. Is SPLEN half-hearted SPLEEN? But EE is not the centre, or heart, of the word. Or do we take ‘heart’ to mean here ‘a bit of the inside’?

    1. I think we take ‘heart’ to be LE, and half of that is L (or E, of course, but not today), so SPLEN. If the half-hearted word were ‘splen’, then heart would be L. At least I think that’s how it works.

       1. DOH!! Of course. Me being thick.

       2. Yes, thanks for clarifying that, Kevin, and I have added an underline in the blog which I hope makes it clearer there too. I should have taken this into account previously, but although I had the correct parsing marked up when I solved the puzzle I overlooked my note when writing the blog and just assumed that EE was the ‘heart’ with no further explanation being necessary.

15. I got the answer ANAGRAM but still perplexed about nine cats. Could someone spell it out/elucidate me please

    1. NINE CATS is an anagram of INSTANCE.

16. 17:44. So far this week I’ve been back to my usual pattern of getting stuck on one clue at the end. Today’s was GIVE NOTICE, where like others I was misled by thinking intimate was being used as an adjective. With just the consonants to fit in, I thought I was probably looking for an unknown Latin phrase.

    ANAGRAM was excellent.

17. 43 minutes with LOI MANX after I finally twigged BOX SEAT. I am most definitely not a Manc. It’s not as if any trains go there. COD to ANAGRAM. My strap line is ‘the last Victorian, the first baby boomer’, so I suppose I still do see VICTORIANA as memorabilia and not as antiques. Good puzzle and quite tough. Thank you Jack and setter,

18. DNF but no complaints. Excellent. ANAGRAM is exceptional.

19. Just under half an hour. Didn’t know that bromide can mean a PLATITUDE and thought ANTIBES was somewhere in the Caribbean, but otherwise this was fairly straightforward. Took some time to see GIVE NOTICE, as for a while I was trying to get ‘vice something’ to work. Thanks to the commenters above for explaining the ‘half-hearted’ bit in SPLENDOUR, which I was going to query.

    FOI Duo
    LOI Platitude
    COD Breather

    1. ANTIBES went in happily because of Graham Greene’s love for the place, and for his happy/sad short “May We Borrow Your Husband” set in the Antibes off season. I think I thought it was in Portugal – until today!

       1. I thought it was in the Caribbean, probably confusing it with the Antilles.

20. 47m 36s
    COD: ANAGRAM. I would say that if you have nine cats you may well find yourself in the cute/quirky segment of the nightly news.
    Thanks for the blog, Jack.

21. No time as several interruptions though I would guess around 50mins. Sped through most of this and thought I was on for a good time . I then got completely bogged down in the SW. Once I finally saw SPLENDOUR, the penny dropped re GIVE NOTICE and BOX SEAT and LOI MANX followed fairly QUICKLY.

    Liked ANAGRAM and NOSE TO TAIL.

    Thanks Jack and setter.

22. Superb puzzle with the worldie ANAGRAM as the jewel in its splendid crown. Thank you classy setter, and Jack for the unravelling of the NHO bromide/platitude. I was delayed for ages by guessing NEGLIGE which made VICTORIANA impossible until the penny finally dropped.

23. Last week we had a query about puzzles getting harder through the week: if that’s true, we’re in for an interesting few days. I don’t think this was a stinker, but it was very, very good and demanded concentrated effort (“for a Tuesday”). The SW sector almost defeated me, with MANX, BOX SEAT and BITTER resisting strongly. BITTER deceived me into taking the tip of T(alon) from a bird, and I only stumbled on it when I somehow thought of BITTEN and tried to justify it.
    I’m not wholly convinced by the half-hearted SPLEEN: normally the half-hearted ruse relates to two identical letters in the middle of a word.
    Not being versed in (is it still?) “modern” maths, SUPERSET took ages to arrive, and hasn’t yet arrived in Chambers.
    Add my voice to the chorus of approval for ANAGRAM. Well played setter, and well blogged Jack!

24. 50:52 for an enjoyably tricky one, perhaps spending too much time teasing out the parsing. NHO Mancs but it had to be MANX. I assumed “nine cats” had to be an anagram but didn’t understand what for, so thanks for the explanation. Good one. I also liked BREATHER, TAIWANESE and SPLENDOUR.

    I assumed the BOX SEAT on a horse-drawn coach. Collins has “in the box seat” meaning in the best position, but does not seem to explain the derivation

    1. Yes it’s a phrase I often use and has nothing to do with a seat in a box in the theatre.

25. 30 minutes all told, but I did think I was going to get a great time until I hit the wall 3/4s of the way through.
    VICTORIANA took me far too long, as did ANTIBES.
    Last in was GIVE NOTICE thanks to trying for ages to make some sort of Latin concoction as I never knowingly make life easy for myself.
    Oh well, some nice clues with ANAGRAM and BREATHER the standouts.
    Thanks to the setter and blogger.

26. 34:49
    Tough going but well worth the effort, Stand out clues were GIVE NOTICE,ANAGRAM and MANX. Held up by trying to think of some chemical bromides.

    I’m never sure if SPANIARD is now regarded as offensive – as I believe JAP is. And what about TURK?

    Thanks to Jack and the setter.

    1. Leaving offensive slang aside, what would a native of Spain be called other than a Spaniard?

       1. A good question. “A Spanish person” I suppose. Spaniard does avoid having to distinguish between men and women (“What is a native of England, or of France, called?”). I think the reason I ask the question is because the word Spaniard, for me, somehow invokes memories of buccaneers and the Spanish Armada and thus I assume it might have been derogatory.

    2. You’d better believe ‘Jap’ is offensive! Is, and always has been.
       There is a tendency in English (noted by Quirk & Greenbaum, don’t ask me for a citation) to prefer adjectives to nouns of nationality/ethnciity: he’s Jewish/*a Jew, Dutch/*a Dutchman, Swedish/*a Swede. Spanish/*a Spaniard, etc.

27. Saw that 3D was a cryptic definition, and had the T and E crossers at the end, so went for “layette”, which obviously made SPANIARD and BANG impossible until I realised my error.

28. DNF
    Only my fifth attempt at a 15×15, and one I probably should have avoided after just relatively recently mastering the QC.
    Solved a meagre 5 clues and, after stepping clue by clue through jackkt’s excellent blog, only managed another 6 ‘on my own’.
    Respect to all you 15×15’ers!
    Thanks again jackkt.

    1. Stick with it Jack. I can’t speak for anyone else but when I first started a few years ago I struggled massively and I’d have been happy with solving a few clues on a tougher crossword. With time and experience you get better at dissecting the clues and this blog is a huge help.

       1. Thanks for the encouragement Rowlie!
          The blog was a huge help with the QC – and I can see it’ll be essential for me for the 15×15 😊

          1. Stick at it skipper, I’ve been doing these for about 7 years and this was on the hard side for me. Read this blog every day and the explanations from this superb community will help a lot. Lots of us on here would have been happy with half a dozen clues on a hard crossword when we started.

             1. Thanks Grumpy – very much appreciated, I’ll do exactly as you suggest 😊

29. 33 minutes, with the last 2 in MANX and BOX SEAT taking the last 5 minutes of that, I had a total brain fail there. Thanks for the blog, I didn‘t know the MANCS thing.
    AFAIK a SUPERSET doesn‘t have to be large, if A is a superset of B it just means A contains B.
    Great puzzle
    Thanks setter and blogger
    Steve

30. I thought this was terribly difficult and it took me 75 minutes, with electronic help for SPLENDOUR because I had reached a stage with two to go and was irredeemably stuck. Really quite easy, was fixated on poor = dismal. Everyone seems to be full of praise for ANAGRAM, and it defeated me for quite a while and then when I saw it it was obvious. But it doesn’t seem original: I sense that I’ve seen it before somewhere, certainly the nag and ram bit. A very good crossword despite its causing me such trouble.

    1. Not original in so far as the answer anagram being clued as a reverse cryptic, seen it a few times before. But the anagram chosen to clue it was exemplary, sent a frisson of delight up my spine. When I finally saw it.

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