Times Crossword Club problems

I’ve had no problems over the last month, but have seen reports from others, mostly about 404 errors (often called “bird on a box” from the image used for them on the Times site). If you have the computing nous to delete timesonline cookies, that apparently solves the 404 problem in many cases.

19th Feb 7:30 GMT


After a couple of weeks of success, I’m back to the “what kind of sub would you like?” question, combined with “Not PeterBiddlecombe – logout”. Back to the back door entry methods for me. I could get back in within an hour or two.

15th Jan 9:00 GMT


As of yesterday, Race the Clock users can get their usernames back, though this is short-term fix rather than a robust solution. Apparently four temporary help desk staff have been drafted in to help with the registration problems.

5th Jan 9:00 GMT


There are still reports of access problems from some users. I can get in, but my RTC ID seems to switch periodically between my new ‘forename’ ‘PBID’, (chosen for uniqueness) and ‘mbe’ which Tony Sever attributes to the result of a common C programming cock-up applied to the string ‘Peter Biddlecombe’

3rd Jan 11:00 GMT


At present, I can get in with an ID that had its password reset by someone on the Times Helpdesk. But I can see plenty of evidence that others are still having trouble.

1st Jan 22:00 GMT


It’s down again – lots of club pages in browser history raise an error message from Firefox about broken redirection. IE does no better.

24 December 13:15 GMT


The site is now back up – for me, at least.

Mon 24 December 11:00 GMT


Access seems worse than ever today – nearly all URLs for the Crossword Club part of the Times site except the bulletin board now lead to a ‘Welcome to News International’ page. This includes the direct links to puzzles that worked through all the hassles of the last 10 days or so.

Although this is very frustrating, please do not use it as an excuse to put up scanned copies of puzzles in comments. This is breach of copyright.

Mon 24 December 9:30 GMT


The dodge mentioned in the comment below seemed to work yesterday, but not today – I ended up as “mbe” on the RTC list. But that seems better then being BC_HA_BA3CA0E8…. – which seems to be the fate of those who take th most obvious route to RTC. Comments on Tony Sever’s blog suggest that some people have been able to choose their own handle on the RTC page. Chaos!

Sat 22 December 9:45 GMT


Although I can log in, the identification stuff is flawed. If I look at the Race the Clock pop-up, I’m shown as “Welcome back, Peter”, not as my old userid, or even as my e-mail address. As the new registration details don’t seem to include my old userID, the only option for identifying me is my e-mail address, which I don’t want revealed on the site and which would be too long for the space available. My guess is therefore that Race the Clock will remain out of action until usernames can be restored to the registration information from which they were removed.

Tue 18 December, 18:10 GMT


The story so far (from memory, so dates may not be exactly right):

Last Wednesday, with no warning, the system for registration and log-in for Times Online services was changed – there are various other services requiring registration, though not necessarily payment, and it seems that changes were made to unify the registration and log-in process for all of these at the same time. To make the change, the Crossword Club log-in page had to be shut down. For reasons that aren’t very clear, the introduction of the new system took until some time in the afternoon of last Thursday. The implementation for the Crossword Club site was flawed, so people had problems logging in, although ‘back door’ routes to various parts of the site did work. At some time on Friday the need to log in was removed for the Crossword Club site, so that people could get access to the services they pay for. But this meant that any aspect of the pages requiring a user ID (Race the Clock contest, prize puzzle submission online) was broken.

At present I can sign in, though it’s not yet necessary to do so. I don’t know how many others can do so. The Crossword Club front page says that normal service should be back by the end of the week.

Why this has been so difficult, I can’t say. It’s irritating and makes you wonder about the planning and testing involved in the work done. My guess is that the Crossword Club staff may have had little say in this. Frustrating as it all is, please don’t use this post as a chance to add your own “what a bunch of amateurs” comments – this has already been done elsewhere and doesn’t need repeating. Please keep your comments to news about changes that I haven’t yet noted, or corrections of any information I’ve got wrong. I’ll add anything new I discover to the bottom of this message, with a date and time. Message layout changed later – latest stuff now at the TOP.

Tue 18 December, 17:25 GMT

16 comments on “Times Crossword Club problems”

  1. RTC correctly recorded userid & time. However, you must..

    “Click here for details of how to submit entries for crossword competitions, and the prizes to be won”, results in correct userid rather than “welcome..”

    Submission still not working.

    1. I can log in but it prompts me to subscribe.
      Surely this is wrong? I’m already subscribed.
  2. Once again the crossword site is inaccessible. This morning when I clicked on http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,254,00.html I was taken to http://www.newsint.co.uk/ and when I tried to access the crossword site at http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/games_and_puzzles/ I was then presented with http://www.newsint.co.uk/again.

    In computer parlance, this is an infinite loop!

    Paul W.

    PS As problems are ongoing, is there anyway of making this thread more prominent?

    1. As far as I can tell, we don’t have a way of nailing a particular post and its comments to the top of the page. I’ll post a pointer to this page.
  3. I’m completely unable to login.

    Varying tactics including using Google’s cached versions of the login/registration pages achieve a variety of results including a notice that my account requires activation from an email that is, as far as I can tell, wholly fictitious.

    I’m not going to bother contacting them whilst they’ve still got the ‘login and registrations are screwed’ messages up. Once they come down, then I’ll start chasing.

  4. I have been experiencing much the same problems as others. Back-door links worked then they didn’t then they did. Was looking at a registration form at some point the day after they first tried the new reg process and then nowt. Might notify my bank as it amounts to fraud ; just a daily assurance that everything is being done to…, reparations will be made..our computers log everything you know would suffice.
  5. Re: registration our NI ref: [[[1566278N]]]Compact Header|Full Message View”Questions, Technical” <technical@timesonline.co.uk>

    Dear cannon alan

    Thank you for your email. I must apologise for the delay in replying but we only received your email today. We can only assume there must have been server problems which caused this unfortunate delay.

    I would be grateful if you could advise if you are still having problems. If you do require our assistance please do not hesitate to contact us again.

    Kind regards
    Daniel Shuter
    Online Customer Liaison Department

    readers email address: ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    <—- Original Message —->
    Hi
    I am crossword member originally registering as AlanJC.
    I have no idea what i should be registering as now.
    Please advise either to this email address or to
    alanjcannon@email.com
    Reading the bulletin board it has become obvious
    that only another newspaper would capable of reporting
    an expose of what can only be described as a scandal
    as internal communication on yours seems to be
    non-existent.
    I as do others i think
    REALLY
    would like to know what has been going on.
    It isn’t classified information surely.
    yours alan j cannon

    __________________________________________________________
    Sent from Yahoo! Mail – a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

    “Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail”

    The Newspaper Marketing Agency: Opening Up Newspapers:

    http://www.nmauk.co.uk

    This e-mail and all attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately. Do not use, disseminate, store or copy it in any way. Statements or opinions in this e-mail or any attachment are those of the author and are not necessarily agreed or authorised by News International (NI). NI Group may monitor emails sent or received for operational or business reasons as permitted by law. NI Group accepts no liability for viruses introduced by this e-mail or attachments. You should employ virus checking software. News International Limited, 1 Virginia St, London E98 1XY, is the holding company for the News International group and is registered in England No 81701

    To which i replied the following on Thursday aft 3rd

    [Error: Irreparable invalid markup (‘<hi […] i)>’) in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

    Re: registration our NI ref: [[[1566278N]]]Compact Header|Full Message View”Questions, Technical” <technical@timesonline.co.uk>

    Dear cannon alan

    Thank you for your email. I must apologise for the delay in replying but we only received your email today. We can only assume there must have been server problems which caused this unfortunate delay.

    I would be grateful if you could advise if you are still having problems. If you do require our assistance please do not hesitate to contact us again.

    Kind regards
    Daniel Shuter
    Online Customer Liaison Department

    readers email address: ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    <—- Original Message —->
    Hi
    I am crossword member originally registering as AlanJC.
    I have no idea what i should be registering as now.
    Please advise either to this email address or to
    alanjcannon@email.com
    Reading the bulletin board it has become obvious
    that only another newspaper would capable of reporting
    an expose of what can only be described as a scandal
    as internal communication on yours seems to be
    non-existent.
    I as do others i think
    REALLY
    would like to know what has been going on.
    It isn’t classified information surely.
    yours alan j cannon

    __________________________________________________________
    Sent from Yahoo! Mail – a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

    “Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail”

    The Newspaper Marketing Agency: Opening Up Newspapers:

    http://www.nmauk.co.uk

    This e-mail and all attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately. Do not use, disseminate, store or copy it in any way. Statements or opinions in this e-mail or any attachment are those of the author and are not necessarily agreed or authorised by News International (NI). NI Group may monitor emails sent or received for operational or business reasons as permitted by law. NI Group accepts no liability for viruses introduced by this e-mail or attachments. You should employ virus checking software. News International Limited, 1 Virginia St, London E98 1XY, is the holding company for the News International group and is registered in England No 81701

    To which i replied the following on Thursday aft 3rd

    <Hi Daniel

    Yes i am still unable to access the Times Crossword Club website and as a paid-up member with user name of AlanJC, my expectation is, as you have my details linked to this moniker and thus be informing me
    i) when the registration will be reinstated,
    ii) what reparations the company will be making for the interruption of
    service.
    All the best alan j cannon

    ps
    alanjcannon@email.com as well this address should appear in your records just in case there is some doubt as to my identity.
    >

    No reply as yet but then it is the weekend now and it’s probably not the right department. My reply above is a final draft of a much longer and crazed email. Trying to leave the problem alone especially as i am experiencing pc problems galore myself. Still going to consult the bank as i believe the fraudulent act has been already committed; it’s probably too late for apologies and claims of ignorance.

  6. Can access the site but can’t get into Mephisto. Keep being thrown all around the site. Jimbo.
    1. I can get to the puzzle but have to log in again just before seeing it, which is rather absurd. Here’s the direct link which may get you there.
  7. As an experiment i thought i’d try and re-enrol for a month @4.95 but mistook the instructions thinking you had to sign on for the Times online @10.00 first. The result being i became a Standard member for the year and as most will know is not really bothering with. Then i noticed you could switch to Premium and be refunded so i did that. However you are not refunded if you go for the month long deal or at least that is how it seems. Maybe i have to ask somebody but i can’t take any more rebuffs for a while. So now i am a standard member and Premium member and i’ll be watching to see how the repayment procedure goes after a month. The site works as well as it ever did but what happens to the time left on the old registration remains to be seen. al2njc(AlanJC)
  8. Dear cannon alan

    Thank you for your email.

    ajcauk@tiscali.co.uk
    I have refunded the premier crossword and standard crossword that you
    created.

    ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    premier crossword club working – I have refund £5 due to problems This
    is now your only crossword account.

    Regards
    Glenn Hatch
    Online Customer Liaison Department

    readers email address: ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    <—- Original Message —->
    Dear Glenn

    Yes i registered through ajcauk@tiscali.co.uk for the Standard
    and monthlong Premium as the the other email was already
    used.

    Yours alan j cannon
    —– Original Message —-
    From: “Questions, Technical” <technical@timesonline.co.uk>
    To: ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    Sent: Friday, 25 January, 2008 3:49:17 PM
    Subject: Re: Re: registration our NI ref: [[[1592744N]]]

    Dear cannon alan

    Thank you for your email.

    I have checked your account and can see the premium crossword club
    membership on account
    ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    but nothing relating to the standard crossword club – did you set up a
    new registration for this on another email address?

    Regards
    Glenn Hatch
    Online Customer Liaison Department

    readers email address: ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    <—- Original Message —->
    Dear Jane

    Thank you for manually activating my old account last friday
    which seems to be working okay as far i can tell. However earlier
    that day by way of an experiment i registered as Standard member
    not entirely intentionally so i decided to switch to the month long
    offer
    on Premium. I didn’t see your email below until later in the week.
    I notice the latter account recognises me as the same user as the
    re-activated old account. The upshot is that i am now a Standard member
    and a Premium member twice over. It would great if you could cancel
    the redundant newly acquired accounts and refund me if that is
    possible.
    I haven’t picked up what the directive might be regarding
    re-imbursement
    for the interrupted service this past month; i know many were affected
    and
    there is still some bad feeling about it all. Look forward to any
    illumination
    you might be able to shed,

    All the best Alan J Cannon

    —– Original Message —-
    From: “Questions, Technical” <technical@timesonline.co.uk>
    To: ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    Sent: Friday, 18 January, 2008 5:23:27 PM
    Subject: Re: registration our NI ref: [[[1592744N]]]

    Dear cannon alan

    Thank you for your email, I’m sorry to hear you have had difficulties
    logging in and accessing the site.

    Please be advised that your account has now been manually activated by
    us and you can now log in with your email address and password.

    To ensure that the correct page displays, please click the refresh icon
    on your browser toolbar. If the correct page fails to display,
    previous pages may have cached on your computer. PC users, please hold CTRL
    and click F5 to refresh the page while ignoring any cached versions of
    the page. Mac users, please hold the Apple key and click R.

    If you do require further assistance please do not hesitate to contact
    us again.

    Do not respond if no action is required.

    Kind regards
    Jane Reynolds
    Customer Liaison Department

    ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    18/Jan/2008
    <—- Original Message —->
    Hi

    Although some members have been able to access the crossword club
    i am still unable to. Please advise.
    My original handle is
    AlanJC
    this email address is
    ajcauk@yahoo.co.uk
    I registered from the email address alanjcannon@email.com and is a bona
    fide
    working account.
    What further information might you require to reinstate my membership?
    This is not the first time i have emailled concerning this matter.
    I did have an exchange of emails with Daniel Shuter but i have the
    conviction
    built up from some years of experience that it is corporate policy to
    not reply
    beyond the cursory ‘we are doing all we can’ etc. message.

    yours alan j cannon

  9. Today i find that every quick crossword I access does not match the numbers on the grid with the clues e.g. clue number 10 across has six letters but the grid shows 10 in the second box of that line (across) and incorrect number of boxes. I have reinstalled, opened and closed, rebooted, all to no avail.
    Help!
    1. If this is the crossword club version, the description seems to match a known issue. Try adjusting the zoom level in your browser – 100% or less should work.

      Peter Biddlecombe, Sunday Times Crossword Editor

  10. I can’t seem to open the cryptic through the club page today, only through the normal newspaper page. Is anyone else experiencing problems?

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