Times Crossword 25,655 – Skegness? Not this time..

Solving Time: About 20 minutes, roughly average for a blogging day though it felt quicker. The need to parse everything slows you down a bit. Overall I thought this was good clean fun, not particularly hard, with only one or two slightly unusual words, and some very neat clues.

We may see some quickish times today, though still a bit early to say, perhaps. Maybe I am just a 20dn 13dn today..

cd = cryptic definition, dd = double definition, rev = reversed, anagrams are *(–), homophones indicated in “”

ODO means the Oxford Dictionaries Online


Across
1 sockeye – lettuce = COS, rev., + essential = KEY and (vitamin) E, a useful antioxidant
5 cockpit – mate = COCK + very good = PI + Time. The wellington in question being Barnes Wallis’ wonderful geodesic bomber design, and not the boot as I initially thought..
9 on the spot – actor = THESP, in O + NOT, the def. being “Where it’s at?” A clever clue
10 poser – a = PER, (as in a/per person), containing mOrSe. Tricky!
11 sweet – sounds like “suite,” as in The Peer Gynt Suite for example
12 cyclamate – C(Y) + CLAM + ATE, Y being an unknown. Sodium cyclamate is an artificial sweetener, widely believed to be a carcinogen but in the absence of proof, still on sale in most countries, though it is banned in the USA. Why bother banning it, when proven carcinogens like tobacco are legal?
14 break ones heart – holiday = BREAK + *(NORTH SEA + E), the E coming from completE. Another well-constructed and misleading clue
17 as the case may be – a cd, those being the two options available for a case taken on an aeroplane
21 apathetic – one’s = I in A PATH + others = ETC. Cleverly worded clue, the insertion indicator being “Taking part in”
23 lager – girl = GAL rev., + bEeR
24 sapid – fluid = SAP + I + Drink. Today’s vocab-enlarging opportunity.
25 grounding – I suppose this is a dd, a grounding in a subject is rudimentary knowledge and an aircraft, for example, would be hampered by grounding.. I might have preferred (eg) “boat” to high flier, myself
26 address – A + D + DRESS, the def. being treat as in negotiate or, well, address oneself to
27 surfeit – SURFE(D) + IT

Down

1 scouse – S + CO + USE.. Scousers being Liverpudlians
2 cats ear – *(SEAT) in CAR. Another neat clue – not a plant I was familiar with (but this is true of most plants), fortunately the wordplay is clear
3 eventuate – still = EVEN + tense about = TAUT rev., + gamE
4 expectorant – in the club = up the duff = bun in the oven = pregnant = EXPECTANT, containing men = OR. A medicine designed to make you cough, though why anyone would want it is unclear to me. Is unaided coughing really that difficult?
5 cut – TUC rev.
6 cuppa – copper = CU + PP + A. Another neatly worded clue, it’s nice that the number of pennies required is spelled out
7 passata – PASTA containing it = SA = sex appeal.. “it” and “sa” surely are long extinct in the wild, surviving only in captivity, here in crosswordland
8 torrents – hills = TORS containing burst = RENT
13 clever clogs – Can + handle = LEVER + obstacles = CLOGS, the def. being an &lit. With such a smooth surface, it seems a good one
15 headliner – HE + bill = AD(vertisement) + band = LINE + Revue
16 Malaysia – postgraduate = MA + sounds like “lazier”
18 trapped – without money = (S)TRAPPED
19 big-time – broadcast = EMIT + rock = GIBraltar, both rev.
20 bright  – Bottle + suitable = RIGHT
22 hedge – Husband + nervous = (on) EDGE. At first I thought this a poor clue, thinking it should be edgy not edge. Then I saw that the H is “on edge”..
25 gas – hidden in makinG A Stew

Author: JerryW

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41 comments on “Times Crossword 25,655 – Skegness? Not this time..”

  1. This is the sort of puzzle that I am pleased to finish, correct and unaided, in under an hour. Which I didn’t quite manage, coming in in 14 minutes over the hour with the long across (17), EXPECTORANT and, finally, the hyper-cunning ON THE SPOT bringing up the rear. New words for me were CYCLAMATE, SAPID and PASSATA, while I was very slow onto the verbal sense of SURFEIT. Pick of a fine crop for me was CLEVER CLOGS, an expression one used to hear more than one does now.

    I was amused by the MALAYSIA homophone clue, as, on my frequent visits to the land of Madasahattir, I always smiled inwardly at their TV ads that referred to the country in this, to me, rather pedantic way. Then, on a recent visit, I noticed that they’d switched to my more ‘Anglo’ prounciation, ‘Malaysha’.

  2. I lost my way after a good start and took about 45 minutes, though I think I may have nodded off for a moment or two. I didn’t understand 9ac fully, not having noticed THESP for “actor”, nor 22dn, having missed the “on edge” device. Does “weep” actually mean “break one’s heart”? EVENTUATE was the final killer.

    1. I wondered about that, and reckoned ‘She broke her heart over him’ can just about be substituted for ‘She wept for him’.
    2. I agree with jackkt – am not sure that “break one’s heart” works. OED has it in a transitive sense only (to break s/o’s heart), I don’t think it’s something you can do to yourself.

      There is a Kipling “Just So” story (from memory I think it’s “The Crab that played with the Sea”) which has a pun on Malaysi = lazy.

      I’m not sure that an expectorant is a soother! In answer to jerry’s question it loosens congestion in the lungs and enables the sufferer to expectorate (lit. “out of the chest”) the phlegm.

      1. The intransitive sense is given by Collins in its definition, ‘to grieve or cause to grieve very deeply’.
      2. Chambers has this too: “to die of, or be broken down by grief of disappointment”.
        If you take an expectorant, it’s presumably because what you are trying to dislodge is bothering you, so if it does its job you would be soothed, no?
  3. Nice puzzle. 18 minutes but a wrong guess at SIPID. Some you win … I should have trusted the wordplay, which was solid throughout and got me confidently to CYCLAMATE, my other unknown.

    I enjoyed MALAYSIA, CLEVER CLOGS and POSER especially.

  4. I don’t think a Wellington bomber can be sid to have a cockpit, rather than a flight deck, can it?
  5. 18m. I don’t usually pay any attention to surfaces but I couldn’t help noticing that this is a particularly smooth bunch. A rather elegant puzzle.
  6. 29/30 today with Grounding missing. Tentatively had Greenwing for that until I got Clever Clogs.
    Didn’t understand On The Spot or Sweet so thanks Jerry for explaining those twp.
    Although Address was FOI the rest of the SW corner (Trapped, Sapid and Hedge) took a long time to unravel.
  7. 22 mins and I had to unpick a lot of the wordplay before I was satisfied with some of my answers. I thought this was an excellent puzzle.

    GROUNDING was my LOI after the excellent &lit PASSATA. I didn’t think twice about the COCKPIT/Wellington association once I’d parsed the clue, even though “flight deck” might be more technically correct.

  8. 25m – PASSATA LOI, as not known, so only got from wordplay.
    Haven’t decided whether to volunteer yet, as I don’t often have good ideas for clues.
  9. A nice, tricky, solve, coming in at a bit over the hour, despite a touch of the lurgi (or lurgy) which keeps me at home today. Liked POSER, and BIG-TIME, but got those fairly early on. Kept quite a few blank to the very end, as wasn’t convinced by my solutions, either because I’d not parsed properly – e.g. HEADLINER, CLEVER CLOGS, or because I just wasn’t sure before all the checkers were in place – AS THE CASE MAY BE. My LOI, and COD, EVENTUATE.

    I’d initially been irritated by what I had thought were some excessively woolly clues, but now realise that there was brilliant word-construction at play which defeated my lurgi-addled attempts at parsing. Well done setter, more please, preferably when I’m better! And now back to the hot drinks …

  10. As Jerry suggests, one of those intricate puzzles where fully parsing every answer takes quite a bit longer than just coming up with likely looking answers. Plenty of blind alleys as I initially tried to justify SWELL, HEDGY, a food I invented called PASTITA, and the new adjective APATHETAL, so sub-20 minutes felt quite pacy in the end.
  11. A smidge over 20 minutes but like all the best people I went for SIPID at 24, feeling rather pleased to have discovered that insipid had an antonym.

    Cyclamate was my LOI as a guess after the penny eventually dropped on the marvellous clever clogs. At 15 I thought it was just band=headline so thanks to Jerry for spotting that it was another fine &Lit.

    I actually heard someone use “eventuate” in a meeting the other day and just assumed they’d made the word up. Maybe they did and just got lucky, but hats off either way.

    1. feeling rather pleased to have discovered that insipid had an antonym.

      That was exactly my thinking. And we were right, but we were obviously thinking of Late Latin rather than the earlier Classical …

      Origin of INSIPID
      French & Late Latin; French insipide, from Late Latin insipidus, from Latin in- + sapidus – savory, from sapere to taste

  12. Like Penfold a smidge over 20 minutes, but I obviously wasn’t one of the best people as I had SAPID early on.
  13. I agree with the blogger’s opinion re carcinogens, there are one or two anomalies in policy around the globe depending on how much tax revenue there is at stake, it seems to me. And if we could tax meat, then there really would be tax revenue at steak. Or bring back witch-burning… no, I’ll stop.

    52 minutes, two or three unknowns holding me up in a good but tricky solve.

  14. A shade under 23 minutes for one that, with some quirky and well disguised definitions looked and behaved as trickier than it actually was.
    I can’t believe any genuine Wellington bomber pilot would use the term “flight deck” (obviously, if he does, he’s not a genuine….). I wouldn’t call it anything else either.
    Most sweeteners – Aspartame in particular – have a strongly bitter taste for me, so I won’t be getting cancer from any of them. I just put up with totally harmless sugar.
    Thanks to Jerry for spotting the thesp, which I didn’t. LJ seems ok now after being virtually inaccessible this morning. I wonder if that’s why there are so few neutrinos on the leader board as yet?
  15. The Italian casserole, which is “it” in Italian food. Put it in, never looked back, and since I didn’t know cyclamate I fell at the last. Hey ho.
    1. No, definitely SAPID, which means “full of flavour”. In the wordplay how would you justify “sip”?
      1. ‘Taking fluid’ with the whole ‘Sipid’ meaning pleasant. An appealing passing but sadly just wrong!
  16. Nice puzzle. CLEVER CLOGS, POSER and MALAYSIA particularly good. All correct in just over 53 mins, but only because I wasn’t clever enough to think of “sipid” as an antonym for “insipid” and thus stuck in SAPID, which rang a vague bell and seemed to satisfy the wordplay.
  17. Considering that I am just returned from our former colony, MALAYSIA, there’s no excuse for that being my last one in. I blame it on the jat leg.

    I fell for “sipid”, not knowing “SAPID” and trying to shoehorn “sip” into it. Ah well; win some, lose some, as we say here in the bloodbath. I’m far too tired to tackle anything complicated until my body clock catches up, so it’s as well I spent half the day standing around in theatre up to my wrists in a nice warm thorax. I’ve now had the chance to change into evening attire, and am kempt and hevelled.

    Failed also to parse PASSATA, I agree with our blogger – “it” and “sa” belong to a bygone era. I believe the term these days is “fit” (or, in Norfolk, “still warm”).

    Quick note for our blogger – most things cause cancer, including good old fashioned sugar (though it’s more likely to cause diabetes, or to add to your accumulation of dud glycosylated proteins). There was a very nice paper about 15 years ago where someone had tried to identify as many as possible of the small molecules (ie, not proteins or nucleic acids etc) in a fresh strawberry. Of those they identified, most had of course never been tested in any way. Of the ones that had been tested, about 40 percent were considered toxic in one way or another, and about half of those were known or suspected carcinogens. Plants want you dead, and have had millions of years to think about it.

    1. I once saw one of Dr Ben Goldacre’s entertaining lectures on the lighter side of epidemiology, based around things which the tabloid press had confidently claimed caused and/or cured cancer (often both, almost simultaneously).
      1. Two interesting supplementary facts on cyclamate:

        (a) Its sweet taste was discovered by a chemist who, having rested his cigarette on the bench where he was working, discovered that it tasted sweet. Those were the days.

        (ii) The original discovery of possible carcinogenesis involved giving rats a quantity of cyclamate equivalent to a human drinking just over 100 litres of diet fizzy drink per day.

        1. That’s the one. I especially remember his scornful description of “Dr Gillian McKeith – or, to give her full medical title, Gillian McKeith.”
          1. I once sent Gillian McKeith one of my stools in the post…

            …not for her to analyse or anything… I just don’t like the woman.

  18. Hell’s teeth. Something over the hour and glad to finish. Must be tireder even than I thought, and rolling as it is. Two days till the end of term…
  19. 40m here but in the SIPID camp. I guessed PASSATA but couldn’t make it fit so I’m guessing that an &lit needs no indicator; it just is in some cases. Pleased to get as far as I did however as there was some clever clues. Many thanks to the blogger as there were a few that I couldn’t deconstruct but left in faute de mieux.
  20. Didn’t find this as easy as our respected blogger, but enjoyed the puzzle, with some excellent clues. I did not know passata, but got it from the wordplay. I’m glad I wasn’t the only person to wonder whether there was such a word as ‘apathetal’, and also pleased that I didn’t chance it, eventually seeing the light. Thought that the ‘thesp’ element of 9a was worth the admission money.
  21. 20:53 for me, having never really found the setter’s wavelength.

    I agonised for ages over PASSATA, which came up in No. 25,917 (2 August 2011) with a similar but rather more helpful clue (“Tomato sauce? It fills ravioli etc (7)”), but which I’d almost completely forgotten about, though there was the faintest of faint bells ringing.

    Edited at 2013-12-12 01:01 am (UTC)

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