Time: 30 minutes, more or less, interrupted by a phone call from my brother
Music: Stan Getz, Reflections
I just happened to notice that this was a Bank Holiday puzzle, and was fearing the worst. Fortunately, it was quite easy except for a couple of entries. Even if you are familiar with ‘lemma’ in logic or mathematics, you may not know its secondary meaning of a subject heading. And if you are an ‘overseas solver’, you may be hard pressed to come up with ‘Roedean’. How did I do it? Fortunately, I am enough of an Anglophile to have heard of the gorgeous young ladies with posh accents who might be found emerging from a Chelsea tractor in Mayfair.
Most of the puzzle was quite easy, and the defintions are obvious enough to allow a lot of biffing. That’s pretty much what I did with some of the longer clues.
Now for a bit of policy, odious as that is. We are here to discuss the crosswords in the Times of London. Any sort of discussion arising from the actual clues and answers is pretty much fair game. However, off-topic comments on politics and other such controversial subjects are not required, and egregious offenders will be told in no uncertain terms to stop. I believe many of the commenters are under the illusion that this is a private little club of fifteen or twenty people, but TfT is in fact read by thousands. Before you post, please consider whether what you have to say is on-topic and of interest to the general solving public.
Across | |
1 | Nasty odours — that’s disgusting bread! (9) |
SOURDOUGH – Anagram of ODOURS + UGH! | |
6 | Course of a good person holding firm (5) |
ASCOT – A S(CO)T | |
9 | Slippery customer in group that’s dancing (7) |
REELING – R(EEL)ING. | |
10 | See maiden being put off by head of faculty in school (7) |
ROEDEAN – RO[m]E + DEAN. I’m not sure if solvers who have never heard of the school could get it from the wordplay – comments? | |
11 | Victor appears to be most important in call (5) |
VISIT – V IS IT, where ‘victor’ refers to the NATO alphabet. | |
13 | Greek tyrant insidiously bad, one beginning to lash out (9) |
DIONYSIUS – Anagram of INSIDIOUSLY – I – L[ash]. Many solvers will biff, especially if they know Greek history. | |
14 | National figure in America needing staff (9) |
STATESMAN – STATES + MAN. | |
16 | The old man needs two assistants (4) |
PAPA – PA + PA, i.e. Personal Assistant, a UK-ism that nearly everyone knows by now. | |
18 | Fusses about drink (4) |
SODA – ADOS backwards. | |
19 | Overworking, Carol catches what can be caught (9) |
STRAINING – S(TRAIN)ING. Surprisingly, I got the envelope easily, but couldn’t think of TRAIN for longest time. | |
22 | Study of chin is agreeable (9) |
CONGENIAL – CON + GENIAL. A play on two different roots. The ‘genial’ ithat means ‘amenable’ comes from the Latin ‘genialis’, ‘festive’, while the ‘genial’ that means ‘pertaining to the chin’ comes from the Greek ‘geneion’, ‘chin’. | |
24 | Lexicographer’s beginning with novel headword (5) |
LEMMA – L + EMMA, crosswordland’s second most favored novel. | |
25 | Trance is back, one knocking son out (7) |
REVERIE – REVER[-s,+I]E, a simple letter-substitution clue. | |
26 | Follower of artistic style, pop, as it changed (7) |
DADAIST – DADA = anagram of AS IT. | |
28 | Yen after study to make dosh (5) |
READY – READ + Y, a bit of a chestnut. | |
29 | Boy clear and always poetic, becoming an imitator of Shakespeare? (9) |
SONNETEER – SON + NET + EER. |
Down | |
1 | Hears confession of hers: is Rev ultimately devious? (7) |
SHRIVES – anagram of HERS IS [re}V – I hope everyone knows the word. | |
2 | Cat not wanting piano as musical instrument (3) |
UKE – [p]UKE, oh, that meaning of ‘cat’. | |
3 | Bitty food melts away, isn’t to be eaten (8) |
DAINTIES – D(AIN’T)IES. | |
4 | Encouraged to be purified with head obscured (5) |
URGED – [p]URGED – two letter removal clues that are almost adjacent, and it’s even the same letter! | |
5 | A funny brother, exceptional person who has “a whale of a time”? (9) |
HARPOONER – HARPO + ONER. I tried to make an anagram of ‘brother’, and I’ll bet you did too! | |
6 | Primate I listened to repeatedly (3-3) |
AYE-AYE – sounds like I, I, a popular primate in crosswordland. | |
7 | Male circle is broken with female finally out in priestly system (11) |
CLERICALISM – Anagram of MALE CIRCLE IS – [femal]E, a clue well-suited for biffing. | |
8 | Fish — is one netted in that country? (7) |
TUNISIA – TUN(IS I)A, a nicely deceptive clue where many solvers will look for a fish as the answer. | |
12 | Scrutinise noise over a Roman way somewhere in Europe (11) |
SCANDINAVIA – SCAN + DIN + A VIA. | |
15 | Avoid accepting points — there’s obscurity here (9) |
MISTINESS – MIS(TINE, S)S – where one point is on a fork and the other one is on the compass, winning COD from me for clever wordplay. | |
17 | Man maybe cut short in trick move (8) |
DISLODGE – D(ISL[e])ODGE. Curiously they have never used Henry Cabot Lodge in these sorts of clues. | |
18 | Dog kept by wise person is better protected (7) |
SECURER – SE(CUR)ER. | |
20 | Hard worker needing good support in the house? (7) |
GRAFTER – G + RAFTER, a word that has entirely different meanings in the UK and the US. The Times is a UK newspaper, so we get the UK meaning. | |
21 | Shop to take risk with minimal light? (6) |
BETRAY – BET + RAY, one ray being presumably not much in the way of illumination. No point in wagering a fish, I suppose. | |
23 | Optical device functioning gets one fooled (3,2) |
LED ON – LED + ON, in different senses. | |
27 | Rocks in circle, odd ones invisible (3) |
ICE – [c]I[r]C[l]E, one escaped from the Quickie. |
Don’t remember coming across SHRIVES before, although I’m sure it’s not the first time it’s made an appearance so I probably have. Didn’t know the other meaning of GENIAL either, but I assumed it must mean chinny.
ROEDEAN no doubt a relief to those who balked at REPTON.
Edited at 2018-08-27 04:11 am (UTC)
v.(intransitive) a slang word for vomit
That, on the view and knowing of these contents,
Without debatement further, more or less,
He should the bearers put to sudden death,
Not shriving-time allowed.
Again, ‘shriving’ meaning absolution.
Edited at 2018-08-27 07:28 am (UTC)
.. though being irreligious this is not my strong area
amazing how many times studying the MoV for O-level Eng Lit has come in handy for solving (but not for anything else)
More important than just knowing SHRIVE, is to register that that is why the expression is “short shrift”, not “short shift”!
Edited at 2018-08-27 10:32 pm (UTC)
5ac I was surprised by the lack of comments on 5dn HAPOONER – ‘a whale of a time”! Most unpleasant.
FOI 1ac SOURDOUGH
COD 17dn DISLODGE with respect to 15dn MISTINESS
WOD 13ac DIONYSIUS a cruel and heartless tyrant
Has it been pointed out that 10ac ROEDEAN is a gals only school?
SHRIVE probably faded after the Reformation, the confession before God being more important than the priestly absolution.
19’07”, with, as noted, a while on the shrugs. Thanks vinyl and setter.
DNK there was a word for ‘of chin’.
And DNK ‘that meaning of Cat’ – what meaning of cat? What am I missing?
Thanks setter and Vinyl.
PS I hope the breakfast information is not too off-subject. It helps set the solving scene.
PPS I’ve eventually found Cat as definition number 24 in Collins. Well I never.
Edited at 2018-08-27 08:23 am (UTC)
People don’t have cats. Cats have staff.
Like others, tried to solve ROEDEAN from the wrong end and with upside-down wordplay. ??EFTON, anyone?
“Something to be caught” for TRAIN was awfully vague (take that either way).
Oh, and roger, V, wilco. Good point, well made.
Edited at 2018-08-27 07:28 am (UTC)
I entered UKE more in hope but would like to know where ‘that meaning of cat’ can be found. I can’t see any relation to ‘puke’ in Collins Online, Chambers Online or ODO.
Liked BETRAY but COD to MISTINESS.
Also in Collins on-line, meaning 24.
Edited at 2018-08-27 09:16 am (UTC)
Edited at 2018-08-27 09:40 am (UTC)
See must be one of the crossword words with the most possible outomes – from Ely to Chester to Rome. I am afraid that I have only heard of Roedean school from a rather naughty song about Roedean girls that I must have learned as a teenager from Hereford (another See) Rugby Club.
As a very poor mathematician, who abandoned the subject at the earliest opportunity, I had managed to avoid LEMMA for nearly 65 years, only to encounter it two days running- it appeared in yesterday’s Sunday Telegraph. Thankfully I managed to retain the information for the required 24 hours.
Had to rely on wordplay for SHRIVES and LEMMA and didn’t know the chin meaning of genial.
We must have had Dionysius before or I’d never have heard of him.
FOI ASCOT
I also shared all or most of the previously discussed unknowns, but none of them held me up and my 11:39 was biff-free.
Wasted time trying to anagrind “in group” at 9A.
Trains can be caught here in Northern Rail territory only when they’re not cancelled, or when they’re on yet another strike.
Nice to see “oner” appear again so soon, and despite its non-PC sentiments HARPOONER is my COD.
Thanks for the usual excellent blog. Off now to Google “Henry Cabot Lodge”.
HARPOONER is a sort of interesting random juxtaposition with LODGE too. Henry Cabot used to have a Greek Revival house on upper Main St. in Nantucket (before it became hedge fund haven) and could often be seen in the summer sitting on his porch reading the paper. His house was opposite the 3 Bricks which were built by Joseph Starbuck, whaling merchant, for his three sons. 12.07 P.S. I hope my hedge fund comment doesn’t transgress. I have been known to make the odd unflattering remark en passant about the current occupant of the White House but will cease and desist.
A sort of H Rochester Sneath in reverse.
A sort of H Rochester Sneath in reverse.
I struggled with this after a late start, feeling dim having been up before dawn to go and do something very bureaucratic. I can’t say more without being political.
It took me over half an hour although had I been constantly awake it might have been faster. Or not. FOI Tunisia, LOI Straining, took an age to see the ‘catch a train’ idea although it’s very fair really. Excellent puzzle, especially for a Monday.
I liked REVERIE and I know an ex-girl who actually went to Roedean.
Thousands of TfTT readers, eh? Scary. They probably stay away on Wednesdays.
These puzzles are supposed to be somewhat difficult.
It’s only if you don’t know either one that you’re really stuck.
Edited at 2018-08-27 06:31 pm (UTC)