Times 27051 – you need to be full of brightness

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Another one of those puzzles, for me, where you struggle along and take an age, then afterwards reviewing the clues you wonder why you found it hard. Perhaps I just wasn’t on the wavelength, or it’s because I was trying to watch the tennis at the same time. Nevertheless, a fine test, a few quirky but not hugely obscure words, and a GK leaning towards our transatlantic colleagues. 2d was a word I didn’t know but assumed it was a parallel term from PODCAST. My CoD was the elegant 3d. I don’t fully understand 12d. And it’s another pangram.

Across
1 Tax done by the book? (8)
OVERWORK – OVER = done, and a WORK can be a book.
6 Champion oarsmen eclipsing a slightly larger crew? (6)
FAVOUR – A crew of FOUR has A V = five included.
9 Very old date skins, hard leaves (4)
IDES – HIDES = skins loses its H.
10 One’s descent in a plane? (6,4)
FAMILY TREE – Humourous effort, a plane being a species of tree. Time was wasted on FLYING and FALLEN once the initial F appeared.
11 Sparkling set Americanism a Jordanian uses (5,5)
CANIS MAJOR – Nicely hidden words for the constellation, in AMERI(CANISM A JOR)DANIAN.
13 Relinquish saw erroneously picked up (4)
CEDE – I think ‘erroneously’ means it sounds like SEED which would be wrong, if used as the past tense of SEE, instead of SAW.
14 One would be respectful to this national anthemor mean (5,3)
STAND FOR – Double definition. I don’t quite understand the exact sense of the ‘THIS natioanl anthem’ bit. One would be respectful by standing for an anthem, but THIS and NATIONAL ANTHEM seem tautologous. Or am I making too much of it? EDIT as the first commenter below points out, the definition is “this” and you substitute it with STAND FOR.
16 He sang especially for God (6)
GANESH – Anagram of HE SANG, Hindu God, usually spelt GANESHA the one with the head of an elephant.
18 Substitute monarch posed with Zulu (6)
ERSATZ – ER = monarch, SAT = posed, Z for Zulu.
20 Fitting term’s test material around seminars at first (3,5)
MOT JUSTE – I believe an MOT test (acronym ofr Ministry of Tranport, originally?) is the UK equivalent of a vehicle’s Controle Technique here in mot-juste-land. JUTE is a sacking-like material, insert the S from seminars at first.
22 Britain’s ready for something to chew on (4)
QUID – Slang for the pound, and stuff you chew e.g. tobacco.
24 What French can put in report is entertaining on grand scale (10)
BANQUETING – QUE is French for what, (and for which, whom, that and than). So, put QUE and TIN (=can) and IN into BANG = report.
26 Enigmatic husband in extra large lace trousers (10)
SPHINXLIKE – Lace = SPIKE, as in a drink, trousers i.e. contains, H, IN, XL.
28 Chap appearing every so often in Kiev court (4)
IVOR – Alternate letters of k I e V c O u R t, a Ukrainian chap presumably.
29 Cream mostly containing syrup: there’s port here (6)
BRUGES – BES(T) = cream mostly, insert RUG = wig = syrup (of fig, CRS). Place in Belgium we keep meaning to visit for a weekend but not made it yet.
30 Interprets fresh comments on promotion campaign? (3-5)
LIP-READS – LIP could be ‘fresh’ i.e. cheeky comments, RE = on, ADS.
Down
2 Video maker misrepresented card votes (9)
VODCASTER – (CARD VOTES)*. Not a word I knew but it does exist.
3 In which DA gives consent (7)
RUSSIAN – &lit; DA being Russian for yes. No lawyers needed.
4 Steer celebrity away from European charity (5)
OXFAM – OX = steer, FAME = celebrity, loses its E. For the word play it ought to read ‘ … European away from celebrity’ really, but that would be gibberish.
5 Boy or girl one announcer holds up briefly (3)
KIM – MIKE is the announcer, loses E, reversed; a name for either gender. Or as many genders as there are these days.
6 Comprehensive reportedly encouraging sort of scholarship (9)
FULBRIGHT – FUL sounds like FULL = comprehensive; BRIGHT = encouraging, as in prospects; American international scholarship program begin in 1945 by Senator Fulbright, now with over 350,000 alumni apparently.
7 Palace the holders, having overcome Ipswich originally (7)
VATICAN – Not Crystal Palace FC, they don’t hold any trophies (yet); VAT and CAN are holders, insert I for Ipswich originally.
8 Crook in outlet in centre scrubbed intention (1-4)
U-BEND – UB is the central portion of scrUBbed, and END = intention.
12 Panellist — one of twelve nailing track — a lover of pop? (7)
JURYMAN – RY = railway, track; presumably ‘nailed by’ JUMAN? Is JUMAN a pop festival? Or is this something to do with the old Juke Box Jury? I think not. Someone put me in the picture please.EDIT see first comment below.
15 Musical devices featuring in hits by The Police (9)
FUZZBOXES – The cops in UK are sometimes called the FUZZ (why?) and hits = BOXES. A fuzzbox was / is a electronic pedal device connected to an electric guitar to make it sound ‘fuzzy’ or distorted. I wanted one for mine but I grew up before I could afford to buy it.
17 Wrong to disown a fine cabinet maker (9)
SATINWOOD – (TO DISOWN A)*. I spent too long looking for a bloke like SHERATON but it’s the wood, not the chap.
19 Going off end of April, stopping work for the summer? (7)
ADDLING – ADDING is work for a summer, insert L last letter of April.
21 Separate strands of investigation commonly acquire point (7)
UNTWINE – ‘UNT = ‘commonly pronounced’ HUNT = investigation, WIN = acquire, E point.
23 Part of boot for hiker? (5)
UPPER – Cryptic double definition. As in ‘hike up prices’.
25 Washington-Brussels summit on peace to finish (3,2)
USE UP – US – EU could be Washington / Brussels, P = summit on (first letter of) peace.
27 The trouble Chicago’s in (3)
ILL – Double definition I suppose; ILL = trouble, and Chicago is in Illinois.

67 comments on “Times 27051 – you need to be full of brightness”

  1. I found this hard too. JURYMAN seemed the obvious answer, but I couldn’t figure out how the clue worked for the longest time. It is JUN(e), one of twelve, with the railway line, RY, and a lover of Pop, MA.

    A few of the clues seemed deliberately made more difficult with the addition of extraneous words. For VATICAN, the clue starts “Palace the holders.” What is that supposed to mean? Is “palace” a verb? There are two holders here, but they are not the only two in existence, so why the definite article?

    For KIM, “one announcer holds up briefly,” why “one”? It looks like it should be something like DJ or MC, backward, with an “i” in the middle. Is this the reason for “one,” deliberate misdirection?

    “Trousers” for “contains” was a step too far for me.

    Quite enjoyable, otherwise.

    As for STAND FOR, I think we’re supposed to substitute the phrase for “this” in the clue, so it reads:
    “One would be respectful to STAND FOR national anthem…”

    I didn’t know what was going on with the “rug” equaling “syrup”!

    Edited at 2018-05-30 05:26 am (UTC)

    1. I believe a microphone is “one announcer holds up” as a whole in 5.
      1. Well, microphone is “one announcer holds”, then up reverses that, right?
    2. Wow. Thanks Guy, I see your thinking on 12d, RY and MA inside JUN for one of twelve. But in that case it’s a poor clue because there is nothing saying why you need to drop the E from JUNE.
      STAND FOR well explained.
      1. I had the same parsing as Guy for JURYMAN and no misgivings because JUN is a standard abbreviation of the month.
    3. I thought “Palace the holders” was fine in the context of the incredibly misleading clue. (Crystal) Palace would be the cup/title holders if they beat Ipswich Town in the relevant match.
      1. Really?! Good grief. Well, it could have been an American sports reference, and I still wouldn’t have gotten it.
  2. I parsed JURYMAN just fine – the one that was still puzzling me as I clicked submit with all my fingers and toes crossed was 21d, where I just couldn’t see how WINE was “point”, surely a misprint for “port”? Though of course there was a d’oh! moment shortly afterward.

    Furniture almost proved my undoing once again as I had SATINWOOD in for a while for 17dn, though fortunately le mot juste was not too long in coming. Mmm, stainwood davenports.

    Reading through the blog I hadn’t fully understood 14ac’s parsing, so thanks all, and I had no idea why RUG was syrup, presumably you flattered someone by rugging them, eh. VODCASTER is a silly word though I guess I might just be jealous because Magoo is an eminent one.

    A challenging crossword then for sure, with many potential sources of confusion, but a rather brilliant one I thought, in various places.

  3. 55 minutes, and pleased with that given the wide range of vocab and interesting clueing. Glad I’m exposed to enough podcasts to spot VODCAST, and that I have a couple of WOD FUZZBOXES in this very room, though I’ve not used them for a while as I’m concentrating on acoustic blues at the moment…

    Also grateful to’ve read enough US novels to have heard of FULBRIGHT; think it probably came up in a Michael Chabon somewhere.

    FOI 3d RUSSIAN LOI 22a QUID (thankfully “see a ‘U’, try a ‘Q'” finally came to my rescue.) COD hard to choose, but perhaps the very well-hidden 11a, or 19d for the “work for the summer” device…

    Thanks to setter and to Pip for struggling through this one for us!

  4. Very tough, but I enjoyed it a lot. Couldn’t parse 12 and didn’t know (remember) rug=syrup, but figured out the rest.
    A double-pangram. Is 3dn an &lit, or just a cryptic definition? Is there something else going on?
  5. I thought this one of the best crosswords I have ever done. Virtually every clue had something special. I laughed out loud at MA as a lover of pop! Too many brilliant clues to mention. Oh thank you fine setter – I am in your debt – and I start the day with a spring in my step.
  6. 55 mins with yoghurt, etc.
    Nothing used up or worn out about this one. And it was a bit of an Odyssey.
    And it is a Double pangram (if that is the right term for using all 26 twice!).
    I loved it. Brilliantly mixed vocab and true originality.
    Mostly I loved: the 4/5 oarsmen, Syrup! Ha, DA, the holders, US-EU and COD to the elegant Banqueting.
    Thanks superb setter and Pip

    PS I see Isla has already called out the double. Have we had one before? Jack might know.

    Edited at 2018-05-30 07:25 am (UTC)

    1. Many double pangrams, over the years. Over in the other place they recently had a quintuple-pangram. 5 of each letter, in a 15 x 15 grid.
      1. Thanks both. Quintuple, incredible. I just googled it. Not easy cluing: Hajj, Raqqa, Syzzygy, etc.
    2. I don’t keep detailed records of the 15×15, but a quick google revealed we have had double pangrams on at least three occasions: 23788 in November 2007, 24716 in December 2010 and 24810 in March 2011.
  7. I tend to agree with Guy’s feeling of discomfort with some of the clues here, and once again my solving time was off the scale.

    But unlike yesterday when I was on blogging duty, I didn’t feel the need to battle to the bitter end without resorting to aids, using them for the god at 16ac and for my LOI at 6ac. The latter would have proved impossible anyway as I didn’t know the scholarship at 6dn so had plumped for ALL (comprehensive),BRIGHT (encouraging) which gave me an incorrect checker for 6ac. I realise now that I had overlooked “reportedly” in the Down clue, but in the desperate heat of battle my answer had seem perfectly possible. Having parsed it retrospectively I think the wordplay at 6ac was a bit much, almost as much so as that at 13ac. Give us a break, for goodness sake!

  8. 32′ (with one letter wrong online), enjoyed this a lot. Remembered GANESH after an incident many years ago when a statue wept milk. JURYMAN, KIM, caused problems with wordplay as noted by others. Thanks pip and setter.
  9. Forgot to say, we had VLOG from derived from ‘blog’ not long ago so it was no great leap of imagination to derive VODCAST(ER) from “podcast(er)”.
  10. 48 minutes with LOI UNTWINE after I at last found a MOT JUSTE for 20 across. I’d just biffed in BRUGES in desperation. Is it really a port? I’ve never heard of a wig being called a syrup. Is that rhyming slang for syrup of fig? I just had KIM as a mike shortened backwards. Amazingly, I knew VODCASTER, having employed one in a totally unsuccessful book promotion. The medium certainly wasn’t the message. I had also vaguely heard of FUZZBOXES. COD to RUSSIAN by a short head from CANIS MAJOR, a deliciously long hidden, and SPHINXLIKE. I’m of the age where I would expect to see Hamilton Burger’s name next to DA. My Mum would always disparagingly refer to mint sauce from a jar as ERSATZ. Thank you Pip and setter.
    1. Hi I thought I had explained it was CRS, syrup in the blog! But 2 jumps from syrup to wig to rug is a bit cheeky I think.
      1. Sorry, Pip, you did. I missed the bit in brackets. I thought the double leap a bit naughty too, although not knowing the CRS not coming naturally to me didn’t help. Mrs BW, born in Leyton, does know the expression.
      2. As mentioned already I have some strong misgivings about a number of things in this puzzle but the ‘syrup/rug/wig’ device didn’t even register. Surely it’s commonplace for a coloquialism or slang word for something to clue another such word?

        Not that you raised it, but I also have no problem with ‘trouser’ as a containment indicator.

        Edited at 2018-05-30 05:59 pm (UTC)

  11. Brilliant crossword. All done and dusted in a very modest 47m with only juryman remaining unparsed. So thanks for the elucidation on that. This really was one of the best, for me, for a long time. Thank you setter,commenters and Pip!
    1. Plusjeremy has admirably blogged today’s quickie: check your browser, or more likely ignore the date/time at the head of the blog as it’s from NYC
  12. Needed to cheat to finish, as I was still travailing after an hour. The unknown fuzzboxes in particular did for me. Couldn’t get past ‘fuzzbelts’.
  13. Got in under 40 minutes (just) on this stunning puzzle (well, I came away reeling, anyway). My last one in was IDES, of all silly things: too many words to abbreviate, knock the middle out of, take the outside letters away from and soon. Only got it when the brilliant RUSSIAN fell, Слава Господу.
    I don’t think I was helped anywhere by spotting the (double) pangram, but it added to the pleasure and to the sense of wonderment.
    Thanks Pip and team for unravelling JURYMAN: I gave up trying to parse it (working though my list of Hebrew tribes, apostles, zodiacs was time consuming and useless) and settled for a 12 person jury.
    BRUGES is well worth an extended visit, and is of course a port, since it includes Zeebruge within its full borders. Not very helpful to wheelchairs: the cobbles everywhere shook ours literally to bits.
    Well done Pip, and everyone who strove to the end. Bravo setter.
  14. [Done with 3G connection over my old iphone4 in camper, now looking out across the water to the Skelligs.] May I add my plaudits to the setter for a really super crossword. Yes, the extraneous words in the clueing were a little awkward, but they served the purpose in misleading us. I much admire the double-pangram, though I didn’t realise it was a double until I came here. Previous commenters have pointed out exactly the twists and turns that cost me 90 minutes of solving time. I think I’ll pick SPHINXLIKE as my COD for its balance of precision with trickiness (no dodgy, hand-waving word play there).

    Great puzzle, thank you.
    Excellent blog, thank you.

  15. Thx it was nowhere to be found but came up on recent entries – interestingly 7.30pm yesterday 🙂
  16. Another tricky one, with some devious clues – for me, 3d is just on the right side of the line (because it raised a smile), whereas 10a just the wrong side.

    I didn’t help myself by going for STAINWOOD for a while, plus tentatively FUZZBEATS and, for a thankfully brief period, PRAGUE. SPHINXLIKE was the LOI after 13m 40s.

  17. Very chewy but, like our blogger, not entirely sure why in retrospect – mark of a good puzzle, I suppose. Defeated by VODCASTER, which I have never heard of, apparently backformed by people who see the need for such words, from podcast.

  18. As PG Wodehouse would have put it, this was quite the thing to lay on a fellow with a thick head. However, I found it a thoroughly rewarding challenge, and thought 3dn the best of the bunch; I love a good penny-drop moment. I can also add my approval of Bruges.
    1. Guy’s comment on trousering being an odd containment indicator, reminded me of Plum’s output, of which in my youth, I was an avid reader. One would of course trouser the spondulix after a successful day at the races!
          1. I think trouser as a verb is marvelously descriptive. And as a containment indicator it is very inventive. I liked it!
  19. Finished in some sort of unacceptably long time but the feeling at the end was like finishing a particularly unhelpful Telegraph Toughie; relief not achievement. 14ac is as odd a clue as I can remember – some sort of throwback to a previous age and none the better for it. No, sorry, for me there was too much deliberately on-the-edge-of-unfair difficulty and not enough of the wit and style we are so fortunate to be spoilt with nearly every day.
  20. As an ex Russian speaker, was very embarrassed to discover the cryptic for 3d. Indeed it was the NW that got me totally befuddled, and added another 20 mins to the 40 I’d already used up. Saw VODCASTER and rejected it as ‘sounds wrong’. All in all, a right bamboozler.
    1. 3dn was my LoI. I’ve just spent a few days in Russian-speaking territory and only have 4 words of Russian. To not recognise one of them just a week after relying on it as 25% of my vocabulary says something none-too-flattering about my ageing brain…
  21. A Machiavellian production with, as Vinyl and Jack have noted, a few clues bordering on the unfair, especially, I thought, the double indirect at 29a. Nevertheless, I managed to blag my way through, with only JURYMAN not completely parsed in 49:41, so I’m not going to dis it as I quite enjoyed the challenge. I’m sure it’s not everyone’s cup of tea though! FULBRIGHT was hovering on the extreme outer reaches of my ken. SPHINXLIKE raised a smile when I saw how it worked. VODCASTER was unknown but derived from podcast. As noted already, RUSSIAN was a superb effort. Thanks devious setter, and thanks Pip for unraveling it all.
    On edit: And I notice not a single green on the personal snitchometer!

    Edited at 2018-05-30 03:56 pm (UTC)

  22. Well, a mixed reception on the site today for this one, either brilliant or not good at all. I’m in the middle, as ‘palace the holders’ made no sense to me at all, VODCASTER quite unknown, but the RUSSIAN DA was very clever. Syrup utterly unknown too. Took around 45 minutes. Regards.
  23. 24:16. Well I really enjoyed this one. Some of the surfaces are a bit wonky perhaps but I never notice surface readings when I solve anyway.
    I couldn’t for the life of me figure out how JURYMAN worked: I gave up trying in the end and just crossed my fingers.
  24. Phew. This was exactly an hour of hard work for me and the lump of gristle which I use as a brain these days. Everything felt just slightly off wavelength for me, in the same way it does if I switch from the Times to the Telegraph. However, I can’t fault most of the clues. Regarding 7d, I just shrugged and assumed that the comma was only there as a confuser, and that it should be read as “Palace; the holders [vat, can] having overcome Ipswich initially”. On the other hand, that leaves us with a “the” that seems out of place. In any case, I think the same construction could have been turned into an eleganter clue.

    My CoD goes to CANIS MAJOR, for managing to camouflage itself so well; as with 7d, though, I think the clue still had a few rough edges. BRUGES had me puzzled for a while, and must have been even more puzzling for anyone not familiar with both of the slang terms for “wig”. JURYMAN was a bit too convoluted, and I decided that parsing it retrospectively wasn’t worth the effort.

    LoI was 3d. Na Zdorovie.

  25. ….and surrendered after 25 minutes. Good decision, as 25 HOURS wouldn’t have led me to SPHINXLIKE. I also missed BRUGES, where I saw “wig” and frantically rechecked UPPER. “Rug” totally passed me by.

    I biffed VODCASTER on the basis that it couldn’t be “podcaster” and nothing else works.

    FULBRIGHT was a total unknown. I dropped out of school at 16.

    COD RUSSIAN

    One whinge : it’s “mum and dad”, “ma and pa”, or “mom and pop”, so 12D didn’t quite work for me.

    Two DNF in a row, so off to bed with no supper tonight.

  26. 36:16 and pleased to finish without aids. Took ages to see why 3d, my LOI, was RUSSIAN. Very clever. Didn’t understand JURYMAN or BRUGES so thanks for explaining those, Pip. And thanks to the setter for a great set of clues and, as others have noted, the double pangram.
  27. Oof! Clean bowled, middle stump, virtually no runs on the board. Hats off to setter, blogger and most of the posters here today. I feel much as Joe Root’s England must have at Lord’s last week.
  28. About 20 mins – can’t be exact as I fell asleep for a bit. Didn’t think it was too bad, but the snitch says it’s a pickle.
  29. A dastardly puzzle this one. I needed an hour at lunch to get through most of it and then another 5 or 10 mins after work to polish off 1ac, 9ac, 2dn, 3dn (big PDM that one) and 5dn. I had some misgivings about parts of this as I was solving, perhaps the clunkiness of some surfaces or the convolutions and contortions of some of the word play? But I have just read back over the clues (with the helpful blog and comments in mind) and find that for me, it all works / can be made sense of. A tough challenge and one which I’ll respect without actually loving it.
  30. Apologies if someone has already shed light on rug/syrup, but just in case: syrup is short for syrup of fig (wig) in cockney slang and rug is a wig synonym.
    Regds
  31. Wow .. Truly fascinating. I see no real connection in any of the so called cryptic clues. I guess it says a lot for my narrow mindset … perhaps .. or they are simply too remote to bother with .. Jury’s out!

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