Times 26,621: IT Support

Another superbly well-crafted puzzle about which, tragically, I have left myself not enough time to wax properly lyrical about this morning! So it’s going to have to be an “over to you lot in the comments” special.

Suffice it to say that the surfaces were immaculate throughout and there were some absolute corkers amongst the clues: I was very taken by the economy of 14ac but surely 3dn has to pip all others to the COD post with its brilliance? Thanks setter, and I hope you weren’t actually having the internet troubles while composing this puzzles that 1ac + 26ac, plus various other answers passim, might suggest!

Across

1 Swimmer is seen in a little water, say, with nothing on (5)
CISCO – IS seen in CC [a little water, say (cubic centimetre, in liquid measurement)], with O [nothing] on
4 Hurry with business lunch, then go back around end of afternoon (4,5)
COME ALONG – CO MEAL [business | lunch] + GO reversed around {afternoo}N
9 Stopped working, being penniless and sad (5,4)
BROKE DOWN – BROKE [penniless] + DOWN [sad]
10 TV programme shows very good French department (5)
PILOT – PI LOT [very good | French department (in the SW)]
11 Very minor reverses in amateur play (6)
LEEWAY – WEE [very minor] reversed in LAY [amateur]
12 Unmarried priest given stick entering church (8)
CELIBATE – ELI [priest] + BAT [stick], entering CE [church]
14 Study noise of birds from Northern Europe (12)
SCANDINAVIAN – SCAN DIN AVIAN [study | noise | of birds]
17 No practical sort, he rushed about, getting bright red reportedly (12)
THEORETICIAN – HE with TORE [rushed] about + homophone of TITIAN [bright red “reportedly”]
20 Charles when speaking secures wig (8)
CHASTISE – CHAS [Charles] + homophone of TIES [“when speaking” secures]
21 Commotion near centre of Preston, close to university (6)
UNREST – NR {pr}EST{on}, close to U [university]
23 Comic book craze I abandoned for good (5)
MANGA – MANIA [craze], with the I “abandoned” in favour of G [good]
24 Sports ground: area certain people set foot inside (9)
ASTRODOME – A SOME [area | certain people], with TROD [set foot] inside
25 Noticeably shrewd, admitting foreigner a short time later (9)
SALIENTLY – SLY [shrewd], admitting ALIEN [foreigner] + T [a short time] later
26 Computer device rejected in some domiciles (5)
MODEM – hidden reversed in {so}ME DOM{iciles}

Down

1 Mystic scholar seen in taxi with top celebs? (8)
CABALIST – CAB [taxi] with A-LIST [top celebs]
2 Warehouse employee brought up as handle becomes weak (8)
STOREMAN – reverse of NAME ROTS [handle | becomes weak]
3 For the solver, a piece of cake (the canapes sound revolting) (4,3,4,4)
OPEN AND SHUT CASE – (THE CANAPES SOUND*) [“revolting”]
4 A rail company motto: “every second counts” (4)
COOT – CO [company] + only every second letter of {m}O{t}T{o}
5 Reform overdue after fellow pulled the strings (10)
MANOEUVRED – (OVERDUE*) [“reform…”] after MAN [fellow]
6 Job seeker might show this past record of hard work? (11,4)
APPLICATION FORM – APPLICATION is hard work, FORM is past record, so you could have APPLICATION FORM
7 One labouring principally in Middle Eastern territory? (6)
OILMAN – I L{abouring} in OMAN [Middle Eastern territory], &lit
8 Channel crossing’s final part, say (6)
GUTTER – the “final part” of {crossin}G + UTTER [say]
13 Politician in a flash becoming unreliable (10)
INCONSTANT – CON [politician] in INSTANT [a flash]
15 Do we hurry up, touring old film studios? (8)
PINEWOOD – DO WE NIP [do | we | hurry] reversed, touring O [old]. Pinewood Studios out west of London.
16 Newly-trained 2 now working (2,6)
ON STREAM – (STOREMAN*) [“newly-trained”]
18 Rogues sleep under canvas on board ship (6)
SCAMPS – CAMP [sleep under canvas] in S.S.
19 Mostly cursed large weed (6)
DARNEL – DARNE{d} [“mostly” cursed] + L [large]
22 Guy is steady, regularly so (4)
STAY – {i}S {s}T{e}A{d}Y, taking every second letter

56 comments on “Times 26,621: IT Support”

  1. Oh dear. Slightly embarrassed to reveal my error but in the interests of full disclosure let’s just say that I mistyped the vowel in the third word of 3d, transposing two letters found adjacent on the keyboard. I feel like I’ve defaced a thing of beauty! I do hope it’s nothing Freudian.

    Lovely puzzle, shame about the solver!

  2. A much more lively and engaging puzzle than yesterday’s, with wit and sparkle. 4ac is my gem of the day, telling its credible story while effortlessly presenting a perfectly good harmonious cryptic.
    My first stab at 3d was “over and done with”, despite seeing the likely anagram, which messed up the SW corner. But an overall <25 minutes, all enjoyable stuff.
  3. 40 minutes but at the end used aids to checked if DAMNEL might be a word, and finding it isn’t I came up with the correct alternative which now seems vaguely familiar. MANGA was unknown but the wordplay was clear. Nevertheless having two intersecting obscurities was perhaps a little unkind. COD 1ac for reminding me of 1950s tv, “Oh Pancho!”, “Oh Cisco – let’s went!”.

    Edited at 2017-01-13 09:27 am (UTC)

  4. Very enjoyable puzzle that was testing without ever being a monster. Liked the construction at 7D.

    I also had DAMNEL initially for 19D but on looking it up found it was wrong and had to think again and then had a vague memory of DARNEL from somewhere

    1. That’s what you get for skipping Sunday School, Jim: not only would you have been told that the tares (weeds if not King James Bible) in the parable were darnel, your Sunday School teachers would always have substituted darned for damned when you tested them on evolution and such. 😉
  5. Nice puzzle but continued my form of getting one wrong this week. I didn’t know the definition and couldn’t parse 1A so went with CASIO. I guess I was kind of close going for a tech company. I still don’t know who or what CISCO is as when I Google it all I get is the network company, so can someone enlighten me please?
      1. Thanks for that. CISCO sounded like a mythical name to me so I was looking for some sort of water nymph. Having found it now it’s less exciting than it sounded!
  6. Another who was taken straight back to the halcyon days of kids TV.Great puzzle one where I kept feeling the game was up then like a car with a low battery the crank turned.LOI 21!COD 14 35min with a darned google.
  7. A very enjoyable 40 minutes with LOI COOT, FOI SCANDINAVIAN. The NE was the trickiest today, partly because I couldn’t get round to filling in the APPLICATION FORM. Story of my life. Never heard of the fish but the cowboy was well known in my childhood and the network equipment supplier much later in business, so felt happy to biff it. Nice to see the volume unit as the cc. The world was just changing from cgs to mks when I did my Physics degree. Good to see Preston mentioned too, the great trainspotting place of my youth, with Semis, Prinnies, Scots, Pats, Jubs and Mickeys steaming through Skew Bridge, before anoraks were invented, when we wore windjammers.There was a poem I half remember about Ashton Park there. “Please keep off the grass, And let the ladies pass.” Anyone help me with the rest?
    1. I’m replying to myself since no-one else gives a bugger. I have the answer via Google. It’s a childhood chant for a 2 ball game. The scousers have it too, but they use Sefton Park. “In Ashton Park, the only remark, is please keep off the grass, and let the ladies pass.” I think it was from my Mum rather than sister so it’s a century old at least. Now can you pretend it was quite interesting?

      Edited at 2017-01-13 12:29 pm (UTC)

      1. Below is an unspammed contribution from the Toff, who apparently does give a bugger (my, we are being “adult” today). On edit: above…

        Edited at 2017-01-13 01:00 pm (UTC)

    2. As an engineer, from a “normal” country (i.e. not UK, or USA where they refuse to use cheese-eating-surrender-monkey units), I’m disappointed that you’re appointed, as it were, with cc. It’s DBE to the max – a cc is a volume, not a volume of water. And relatively large as well as relatively small – a cc of gold is quite a bit, while a cc of cosmic dust is infinitesimally insignificant. A cc of water is a lot when it’s contamination in your hydraulic system.
      Done under Verlainesque conditions (after a few wines) with poor results: CISCO unfilled, DAMNEL wrong, gave up with also INCONSTANT missing. But very much enjoyed, more than yesterday.
      1. DBE? Disadvantaged Business Enterprise? Double Bond Equivalent? Dame of the British Empire? Damn(or Darn-see below) British Engineers? Something only my kids would know? I guess the first is the most likely but it is a while since us Brits did pressure in poundals per acre. I did all my university Physics in metric systems, although I can still remember that 1 horse power equals 550 foot pounds per second from schooldays. I take your point that the cc didn’t have to be water in the clue, and I thought the same myself. But it could be water and I think that’s how it works in crossword compiler land.
        1. Definition By Example I guess.

          I personally think it’s fair game because it’s “a little water, say” – a drop of something liquid. Defining it as just “a little water” would definitely have been a no-no.

          Edited at 2017-01-13 02:58 pm (UTC)

  8. I should probably declare myself hors de combat and nurse this cold with Lemsip and hot baths rather than trying to do crosswords today. I gave up after an hour and ten with, in hindsight, a few gettable clues left. It didn’t help that I knew neither CISCO nor “Lot”.

    In the end, I’d have failed due to an invented “damnel”, anyway. Ah well. I enjoyed what I managed.

    Edited at 2017-01-13 11:06 am (UTC)

  9. The art of the comic in Japan 23ac was my COD
    FOI 5dn MANOEUVRES

    My LOI was COOT which took forever – well put me over the hour. Out v.late at El Elefante.
    19dn DARNEL was known – a rye grass with narcotic properties.

    I was misled by 2dn as I thought it was STOCKMAN initialy – the STOCK was not the handle after all.

    WOD CISCO

  10. 19′ but with DAMNEL, how is one meant to know, US solvers may find this easier, no one in the UK says DARNED, except re needlework, and with no other indicators……

    On a positive note, liked the long clues, and also COOT.

    May I please recommend today’s QC and blog?

    1. The use of ‘darn’ for ‘damn’ was normal in the fifties in the UK, Rob. It was considered more polite, as ‘blooming’ for ‘bloody’ was.That’s not such a consideration in this world of textspeak acronyms where the word seemingly used by most begins two letters further down the alphabet.
  11. Darnel rang a vague bell with me, certainly to the point where I would never have dreamed of choosing “damnel” over it. Looking it up it would seem that it makes an appearance in King Lear (which I did for my A-Levels):

    Alack, ’tis he. Why, he was met even now
    As mad as the vexed sea, singing aloud,
    Crowned with rank fumiter and furrow-weeds,
    With burdocks, hemlock, nettles, cuckoo-flowers,
    Darnel, and all the idle weeds that grow
    In our sustaining corn.

    So there you have it people, maybe if you spent less time COMPLAINING and more time doing the TLS puzzle every week this would have been an open and shut botanico-literary case!

    Edited at 2017-01-13 11:50 am (UTC)

    1. I’d like to claim I knew it from King Lear, which I also studied at A Level. The truth is I recognised it as a name, chiefly US I think, and guessed the name might come from a plant.
  12. 38 min, with NE corner recalcitrant – 4dn held me up for a long time, but once found, rest fell quickly. Knew 19dn, but 1ac went in from wordplay and checkers.
  13. 13:58 fishing with the unknown CISCO. Very good puzzle with only 3d biffable really, with so much more only gettable by piecing together the wordplay. For instance I quite enjoyed the way COME ALONG revealed itself when I started backwards with GNO.
    1. COME ALONG was my FOI, also unspinning neatly from the GNO, and correctly suggesting that this was going to be a very enjoyable puzzle. Of course I wouldn’t learn about DARNEL or CISCO for another 45 minutes or so.
  14. Over an hour I think with lots of breaks for customers. Too many DNK’s for me – had to look up DARNEL, CISCO and CABALIST (to my shame, just couldn’t see it). However I did get 16d before 2d…
  15. Didn’t know CISCO was a fish, but constructed it anyway. If only I had a pound for every Cisco router I’ve installed over the years! I knew DARNEL from the parable of the sower, whose enemy came and adulterated his field with the stuff. MANGA rang a very faint bell. Liked the 2 way reference for 2d and 16d. That helped me a lot with 2d. FOI was BROKE DOWN. I really struggled to get a foothold in this puzzle. MANGA and STAY were my next two, then it was like pulling teeth until I finished with COOT after 49 minutes. Quite a challenge. Thanks setter and V.
  16. It’s been a week where all my guesses seem to have gone awry. Put me down as another DAMNEL, after PRESEND earlier in the week. Oh dear. And I have read my Bible all the way through – clearly without memorising the flora and fauna!
    1. It would have been tares in the KJV, and only a very few, more fringe, versions – Darby, Young’s – would have given darnel. Most others give just weeds, though thistles and cockles have also been spotted. So you’re excused for missing it, unless perchance you were brought up in the Plymouth Brethren mode.
  17. Thought I had 2 finishes in one week, but thwarted at the end.
    Loved Scandinavian, it does exactly what it says on the tin for a newbie..
    Roin
  18. 24 mins. I struggled a bit with this one and limped home with a vaguely familiar DARNEL after CHASTISE. Only the SE went in relatively quickly. I’d have completed the LHS a lot quicker if I’d solved the excellent 3dn as fast as I should have done, but it took an age to realise it was an anagram.
  19. I didn’t finish because I didn’t know CISCO. I also didn’t see (still don’t) how ‘bright red’ emerges from ‘Titian’ (or ‘Tician), but the answer was clear. In the end I had to go to the aids for the former, so a DNF. But a very nice puzzle, nonetheless. Regards.
      1. I’ve ben alive for a long time but have been unfamiliar with Titian hair. Thanks Matt.
  20. DNF but not too unhappy. Of three completely unknown words, or word senses to be more precise (actually four if you count the Titian in the unpractical chap), I got all but one right from wordplay (the mistake was DAMNEL, of course, but I’m in such good company I don’t mind). I always thought Cisco was a software company, and neither coot nor rail a bird and certainly not the same kind of bird. Live and learn.
  21. 9:24 for this enjoyable, well-crafted crossword, another fine example of the setter’s art. For once I was pretty much on the setter’s wavelength – much more so than for several other recent puzzles anyway.

    John Masefield was Poet Laureate throughout my schooldays, and his poems (Cargoes, Sea-Fever, and so on) used to be very popular. They included Nicholas Nye, which starts “Thistle and darnell and dock grew there …”. I’d forgotten that he’d spelled “darnell” with a double “l”, but I had no difficulty bunging in DARNEL at 19dn.

  22. 25, so about par. 1d FOI, but spent some time doubting it, since I’ve only ever seen it spelled ‘kabbalist’. Still, the word play was inarguable. 4d LOI for lack of twitcher knowledge. Setter obviously a nature fan. 17 biffed. COD 6d. Enjoyable.
  23. …took me back to the glorious Flann O’Brien:
    “Characters should be interchangeable as between one book and another. The entire corpus of existing literature should be regarded as a limbo from which discerning authors could draw their characters as required, creating only when they failed to find a suitable existing puppet. The modern novel should be largely a work of reference. Most authors spend their time saying what has been said before – usually said much better. A wealth of references to existing works would acquaint the reader instantaneously with the nature of each character, would obviate tiresome explanations and would effectively preclude mountebanks, upstarts, thimble-riggers and persons of inferior education from an understanding of contemporary literature.”
  24. 25, so about par. 1d FOI, but spent some time doubting it, since I’ve only ever seen it spelled ‘kabbalist’. Still, the word play was inarguable. 4d LOI for lack of twitcher knowledge. Setter obviously a nature fan. 17 biffed. COD 6d. Enjoyable.
  25. Apologies for what seems a very amateurish question but could someone shed light on how 10a parses? I don’t see how “very good French department” works for PI + LOT

    Any help much appreciated as it’s driving me partly insane.

    1. PI is a bit of a crossword staple, meaning “very good”, short for “pious” I believe, and clearly not actually used in the wild since before *I* was born. But some devices are just too useful for crosswords to abandon them.

      LOT is just literally a French department: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_(department) Which I certainly didn’t know before doing this puzzle!

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