Times 25,199 – Hotel good, food good, sun shining,……

Solving time 20 minutes

About average level of difficulty with no real obscurities. 5D is strange and I can’t help feeling I’m missing something subtle. I also don’t really understand the cryptic to 8D

The end of June 2012 marks the 50th anniversary of my learning to program the ICL 1301 computer, which was when I learned about Alan Turing. June 23rd was the 100th anniversary of his birth and I can’t let it pass without an acknowledgement to him and his immeasurable contribution to our lives without which this blog would not be possible

Across
1 CANNES – sounds like “can” to the French; Nice in France;
5 WHISTLER – (the swirl)*; James Whistler 1834-1903 who painted pieces of music and mothers;
9 OLD,WINDSOR – (lord)* surrounds WINDS-O; over=O (cricket – what else?); Thames-side village near Windsor;
10 FOIL – F-OIL; fine=F; sun lotion (perhaps!)=OIL; fencers cavort on a piste;
11 STRATEGY – STY surrounds (great)*; does the Euro Area have one?;
12 GEYSER – GREY-SE then move R=queen to the rear; as featured in Yellowstone National Park;
13 JACK – two meanings 1=sailor; 2=small ball used as a target in bowls;
15 ULTERIOR – UL(s)TE(RIO)R; the most interesting motive;
18 REST,HOME – REST-HO(M)E; (the) excess=(the) REST; not where I want to end up;
19 BOAR – BOA-(freeze)R; Tamworth no doubt;
21 ENAMEL – LE(MAN)E all reversed; what the hygenist cleans;
23 EQUALISE – cryptic definition; park=slang for football pitch;
25 UNDO – hidden (Ness)UN-DO(rma);
26 GREGARIOUS – GR(I-RAGE reversed)OUS(e); bitch=moan=grouse;
27 ASSIGNEE – ASS-GI reversed-NEE; charlie=slang for fool;
28 EL,NINO – (l)E(y)L(a)N(d)I(i)-NO; quinquennial movement in the South Pacific;
 
Down
2 ALLOT – (sh)ALLOT;
3 NEWMARKET – NEW-MARKET; also a famous centre for horse racing;
4 SINGER – SIN-(pon)G-E-R; Isaac Merritt Singer 1811-1875 who invented the Singer Sewing Machine;
5 WISH,YOU,WERE,HERE – insincere message people sent before texting was invented;
6 IRRIGATE – (b)IR(d)-R(e)IGATE;
7 TUFTY – TU(F)T-Y(oga); following=F; road safety conscious squirrel;
8 EMILE,ZOLA – ALO(Z)E-LIME; what is an aloe-lime?; French writer and saviour of Dreyfus;
14 APENNINES – A-PENNI(N)ES; N from (woma)N;
16 REBELLION – (beer)*-ILL reversed-ON; last resort of slaves, peasants and poll-tax payers;
17 HOOLIGAN – HO(OLI)GAN; OLI from (s)OLI(d); golfer Ben Hogan 1912-1997; idiotic follower of football;
20 CURATE – two meanings 1=pastor 2=manager of museum;
22 MAORI – I-ROAM reversed; author=I(?);
24 SPURN – S-PU(R)N;

40 comments on “Times 25,199 – Hotel good, food good, sun shining,……”

  1. Jimbo re Turing
    You will much enjoy the Guardian’s most recent prize crossword (Puck on Saturday).
  2. To start on-topic, I found this to be a stiffy.
    Ok, now to go off-topic.
    Jimbo you’ve got me beaten by 3 years. I started on the ICL/Ferranti Orion in ’65.
    Mike
    1. Back in those days people shared information quite readily so I associate the Orion with the Prudential Insurance and a certain amount dissatisfaction. The Pru I think went on to be big IBM users.
      1. The Pru – you’ve got it in one. I did 2 years on the Orions (we had two of them) then a year on the up and coming 360/30 before moving on to pastures greener. The Orions were so unreliable that we had engineers permanently on site.
      2. Jimbo, did you use the VME platform? I work on the DWP computer systems, and we still use ICL(Fujitsu) mainframes on a VME platform – the only one left I believe. It’s under a support contract until 2020 something.
        1. The 1301 was the generation of machine before the ICL 2900 series when virtual machine environment was a twinkle in somebody’s eye. A word machine it ran an instruction set that was entirely mathematical (37=bring to arithmetic register; 42=store out of arithmetic register; and so on). It had a utility to load the program and then off you went, even leaving you to control the tapes, card readers and printers through your own software. Great fun!
          1. Jimbo

            Thanks for taking the trouble to reply. I am in a mainframe as we speak – compiling and installing code for the JSA (Job Seekers Allowance) system. I don’t time the crossword, preferring to enjoy the scenery, but finished today’s during a dull tele conference. Cheers.

          2. Jimbo,
            If my memory serves me correctly the 2900 was preceded by System 4 if you were from north of Watford (ie. Kidsgrove or West Gorton) or 1900 if you were from Bracknell. When I started in Bracknell in 1973 we worked on a New Range (as it was then called) simulator, made out of bits of 1900s and VME was known as Supervisor B – other operating systems were available but all got scrapped! Other than Tony Sever, are there any other old ICL employees out there?
            1. Not quite as simple as that, Ron. I first worked on the 1900 series in Putney back in 1965 and on System 4 in Acton (Minerva Road) in 1971 – which is when I took the opportunity to relocate to Ealing (and have lived there ever since). Several of the System 4 guys I was working with went on to work in Bracknell on Supervisor D which became VME/K (and was then shelved). I met them again in 1975 on my first VME/B project, writing in SFL, which they regarded with some disdain as “Staple For Learners” (Staple being SFL’s predecessor). Later I switched to smaller machines, including the DRS 20, and eventually moved on to UNIX and C and (eventually) Java. There was a lot of other stuff in between too. All in all, an interesting career.

              Edited at 2012-06-26 10:30 pm (UTC)

              1. I started in the Home Office in 1972 and worked on ICL 1900s for several years, initially using GEORGE2 but mainly GEORGE3. Happy days.

                Steve Williams

            2. You’re correct about the 1900 of course. I didn’t work for ICL, I was a user but back then cooperation with Putney was very close. I wrote some of the subroutines that ICL used as standard software. I recall one to convert punch cards from one format to another for example and the work we did in the actuarial field was hot stuff in those distant days
  3. … as I had gaps at EQUALISE, HOOLIGAN and CURATE. Should have got the last of these, but don’t think I’d have thought HOOLIGAN=tough even if I had seen the wordplay (never heard of Hogan). I didn’t know the park=pitch ref, but maybe with all the footie going on I should have got this one. I also had a ? at ‘old’ for pennies.

    Re Turing: my sons and I are looking forward to visiting the exhibition that opened last week at the Science Museum in London. Anyone been yet?

    http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum/galleries/turing

  4. Time messed up and long: brain definitely needs a reboot, as I’m currently solving in a kind of fog. Just about every clue (except HOOLIGAN, which I needed a break before blog to see) felt as if it should have been danced through. I either just couldn’t see the construction (BOAR, EL NINO, APENNINE)) or got fixated on what had to be there: “she dog” in 26a, Ma in 2d, “author rambles” giving an S in 22, SUOMI perhaps. In the last, I failed to imagine the conjugation of the verb to be normal; in crosswords it’s almost always not.
    Not much fun, but my fault, I think, not the setter’s.
    CoD to UNDO – it appealed to my apparent need for simplicity.
  5. I found this rather harder than average, getting what I thought was home in 85 minutes. Like England in the penalty shootout against Italy, ‘ex nunc’ went in with little confidence at 28, I then found that this was a Latin phrase used in the law, meaning ‘from now on’ – this corresponds to the Italian miss – before I came here to confront the sad reality of yet another defeat – the ‘Double Ashley’ miss.

    At 17, I could think of Jones, Snead and Locke, but typically the one old golfer that was needed didn’t come to mind. At 20, I considered CURATE but was stymied by thinking it must be a charade rather than a double definition. COD to TUFTY.

  6. 26m. I found this quite tricky, and didn’t really enjoy it. I thought the cryptic definitions a bit weak, and things like “area round London” for SE or “residence” for REST HOME a bit vague. Nothing wrong with it, just a taste thing I suppose.
    I was a bit puzzled by “old money” for “pennies”, although I suppose the old ones were.
    1. Interesting comment about pennies. I associate pence with our current coinage and pennies with pre-decimal – not sure why!
      1. On further investigation Chambers says that “pennies” refers to “material objects”, whereas “pence” are “units of value”. So on that basis the setter is in the right. On reflection I think I may have been influenced by the common use of “penny” for a US cent.
    1. Neither does “Half a Sixpennies”. And for me, neither does the ubiquitous one pence, even on the lips of BBC newsreaders.
  7. Slow, slow, slow! Always thought “El Nino” was two words; so that was a bit of a bugger towards the end. And … is it a current exactly? US Oxford has:
    “an irregularly occurring and complex series of climatic changes affecting the equatorial Pacific region and beyond every few years, characterized by the appearance of unusually warm, nutrient-poor water off northern Peru and Ecuador, typically in late December” [my emphasis].

    Without checking guessed NEW WINDSOR at 9ac until the impossibility of AVERT at 2dn dawned.

    Not a good morning; but a very good puzzle.

  8. jimbo, tzaneria, I got started with Pegasus in ’55, later to Honeywell, and inevitably the 360.

    17d was LOI for me – tried to do something with Langer for ages.

    The pangram was helpful!

    1. Pegasus – a valve machine. Some sort of scientific application presumably rather than commercial data juggling
  9. 49 minutes. I took ages to get started on this one having missed getting off to a flyer by thinking “WISH YOU WERE HERE” on first reading when the grid was blank and then rejecting it out of hand.

    Progress was not helped by misspelling APENNINES (yet again!) and thinking 20 had to start with RUN.

    Because of recent reading I had Rex WHISTLER in mind at 5ac: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_Whistler

    Didn’t know the piste / fencing connection.

    All in all quite a tricky offering, I thought.

  10. 15 mins and 30 secs (I have started timing accurately!) WOuld have been quicker but for some reason I didn’t read 21a properly and put KENNEL! Not too tricky apart from that.
  11. Not a puzzle to try in front of the tellie after a long day. I didn’t quite believe 5d either, thinking the Y in you was the result of some kind of replacement that escaped me. Apart from that some very nice clues. COD to IRRIGATE just ahead of MAORI.
  12. Abject failure today – gave up with half the grid blank, mainly the bottom half. Couldn’t even find some of the definitions: tough/Hooligan; spring/Geyser; current/El Nino!. Thanks for explaining everything Jimbo. I didn’t help myself in the NE corner by confidently thinking the author was Emily somebody-or-other.

    BTW El Nino is the nickname of Fernando Torres (Spanish footballer) and Sergio Garcia (Spanish golfer).

    I’m amazed some of this learned crowd haven’t heard of the legendary US golfer Ben Hogan, aka The Hawk (!!) – arguably the best striker of a golf ball ever and one of only five men to have won all four major championships (US Masters, US Open, British Open, US PGA), several after a near-fatal car crash in 1949. His winning of the US Masters, US Open and British Open in a calendar year (1953) is unequalled.

  13. 25:18 here – just what I didn’t need today after being up all night doing a live software release, then having to work all day too (and do another release). Still, it looks like it went a bit better than last week’s RBS/NatWest debacle 🙂

    I was also going to mention the Guardian Saturday puzzle, but I see Barry got there first.

  14. About 20 minutes, ending with HOOLIGAN, which I thought was a very good and difficult clue. I don’t remember seeing the ‘within the bounds’ device before, or similar. The SE area was the more thorny for me, but I do appreciate the EL NINO clue as well, nicely done, despite the seemingly invented ‘leylandii’ word that fairly screamed out to take alternate letters, but with puzzlement as to where to begin. Regards.
  15. Done erratically at different times but it got itself together in just under the hour in total. Oddly tricky I found. (One tends to drop into cluespeak – could be a short story there.) Surprised at the assignee meaning. I was out of touch on several here, e.g. looking at Runcie for the minister for far too long. In all rather a fine number methinks.
  16. About 30 minutes, I liked this puzzle, SW corner was last to go in, took me a while to see why it was MAORI. Tough for hooligan? Nice clue but loose def. Why all this rambling on about mainframes of 40 years ago? Keep it on Facebook.
  17. 12:00 here for a most enjoyable puzzle. I wasted a bit of time agonising over REST HOME (like keriothe, I found the clue a bit vague) and FOIL (I’ve may well have come across a fencing “piste” before, but if so I’d forgotten about it).

    You beat me to the 1301 by just over six months, Jim, as I started programming it (in machine code) in January 1963. Those who’d like to know more about this wonderful beast should follow this link. It brings it all back. Happy days!

    1. Happy days indeed Tony – one of the most satisfying times of my life. Thanks for the link. Did you go to Bradnam(?) Manor near High Wycombe to learn or was that just users?
      1. Bradenham Manor. I think it was probably just users. I only went there once, on a marketing course in the 1990s (I think), and certainly at that time it was much more swish that Moor Hall, Cookham, which is where I spent my first two weeks working for ICT (the first week wiring plugboards for tabulators – the T in ICT – reproducers and the like, and the second learning 1301 machine code).

        I think I probably went on a couple of other courses in my career, but generally we were just given a manual (or told to buy one and claim it on expenses) and left to get on with it.

  18. DNF. Failed to get HOOLIGAN, but managed the rest after a struggle. I should have spotted Ben Hogan after all the PG Wodehouse books I read as a teenager, but only Harry Vardon sprang to mind. Didn’t manage to parse MAORI and failed to recognise second meaning of CURATE, though it is pretty close to CURATOR, so I should have guessed it. Thanks to Jimbo for the expanations. No time as I had at least 3 goes at it over the day. LOI was FOIL. I was working with OKRA for a while(Sun God RA?) Quite enjoyed the puzzle once I got going.
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