Saturday Times 25825 (28th June)

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Solving time 14:44, although would have been quicker if I hadn’t wasted a bit of time at the end trying to justify HURRICANE for 5dn! Mainly very straightforward wordplay peppered with a few obscurities (I’d heard of the Mon but UDI for 1965 declaration went in on trust – I was only 2 years old then).

1 Small blue vehicle certainly not one of the fleet (9)
SLOWCOACH – S(mall) + LOW (blue) + COACH (vehicle).
6 Thunder keeping son very close (5)
BOSOM – BOOM (thunder) around S(on).
9 Mo was in first place – that’s caused amusement (7)
TICKLED – TICK (mo) + LED (was in first place).
10 In wet weather two hundred ducks replacing one animal (7)
RACCOON – RAIN (wet weather), with the I replaced by CC (two hundred), OO (ducks).
11 Bread bin finally found by a family member (5)
NANNA – NAN (bread) + (bi)N + A.
13 Make a feeble attempt to be heard regularly (9)
TRIWEEKLY – sounds like “try weakly”.
14 Copy starters in Abruzzo – really authentic type of pasta (9)
CARBONARA – CARBON (copy) + first letters of “Abruzzo – really authentic”. Surely carbonara is a type of pasta sauce, not a type of pasta!
16 Workman‘s mitt (4)
HAND – double definition.
18 Kid may be picked up in river (4)
TEES – sounds like “tease”.
19 Be sensible before taking time outside (3,6)
SEE REASON – ERE (before) inside SEASON (time).
22 Avoiding work, Yankee Doodle initially goes in for sport (9)
SKYDIVING – SKIVING (avoiding work) around Y(ankee) D(oodle).
24 Police holding an artist (5)
MANET – MET (police) around AN. Édouard Manet (1832-1883), French painter.
25 China’s claim, perhaps, in Muslim leader’s office (7)
IMAMATE – “I’M A MATE” (Cockney rhyming slang, China plate = mate).
26 Goddess found in area close to shore (7)
ASTARTE – START (found) inside A(rea), (shor)E. Greek name for the Babylonian goddess Ishtar.
28 Infernal sort of complexion (5)
RUDDY – double definition.
29 Horrified reaction when spectre wanders around empty house (3,6)
THE CREEPS – (spectre)* around H(ous)E.

1 Diabolical cast in a play (7)
SATANIC – (cast in a)*.
2 Imaginary creature coming in for criticism (3)
ORC – hidden in “for criticism”. One of the bad guys in Lord of the Rings.
3 Drink up after reformer drops in for a brandy (8)
CALVADOS – SODA (drink) reversed after CALV(in) (John Calvin (1509-1564), French Protestant reformer). French apple brandy.
4 African leader’s 1965 declaration? Time for inspection (5)
AUDIT – A(frican) + UDI (1965 declaration?) + T(ime).
5 Retreat from Moscow’s beginning with what’s left outside (9)
HERMITAGE – M(oscow) inside HERITAGE (what’s left). My LOI, as I couldn’t get past HURRICANE from those checking letters for a long time.
6 Angel cake primarily eaten by its creator (6)
BACKER – C(ake) inside BAKER (its creator). Great clue.
7 Baroque tune shocks a composer (11)
STOCKHAUSEN – (tune shocks a)*. Karlheinz Stockhausen (1928-2007), German composer.
8 Affluent Asian people look at diamonds (7)
MONEYED – MON (Asian people) + EYE (look at) + D(iamonds). The Mon are an ethnic group from Burma and Thailand.
12 Domestic servant involved in murder, say (11)
NURSERYMAID – (in murder say)*.
15 Metal splits away on the wagon? (9)
ABSTINENT – TIN (metal) inside ABSENT (away).
17 Extremely troublesome boss promoting a driver (8)
TEAMSTER – T(roublesom)E + MASTER (boss), with the A moved up. Could be a driver of animals, or in the US a truck-driver.
18 They’re regularly consuming wine that’s more delectable (7)
TASTIERThey’re around ASTI (wine).
20 Headbangers, say, in middle of Kansas (7)
NUTTERS – UTTER (say) inside NS (middle of Kansas).
21 One showing vigour after publisher’s first breach of copyright (6)
PIRACY – I (one) + RACY (showing vigour), after P(ublisher).
23 Pleased with smoke finally clearing (5)
GLADE – GLAD (pleased) + (smok)E.
27 Regret, Swann’s way? (3)
RUE – double definition, the second as French for “way”, and ref. the first volume of Proust’s In Search of Lost Time (or Remembrance of Things Past, depending on which translation you prefer).

15 comments on “Saturday Times 25825 (28th June)”

  1. an enjoyable 8 mins-ish. (Timer didn’t work but Mr CS reckoned it was under 10 mins from start to finish).

    Thanks for the blog – oh to be only 2 in 1965!

  2. 13 mins, and from what I can remember I felt that this was a very straightforward puzzle. ASTARTE was my LOI.
  3. Easy this. I did like 5dn, very neat clue.

    I was 11 in 1962 but not paying much more attention to current affairs than a 2 year old would. It’s called “history,” and does not all have to be experienced personally 🙂

    1. From school history I don’t remember us getting much more recent than Henry VIII…but anyway it was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek, like your comment 😉
      1. My schoolboy history concentrated on the Stuarts but as any reader of 1066 And All That knows, after the Great War, History came to a .
  4. Enjoyed this one – about the right level of difficulty for me (albeit that makes it a walk in the park for the senior pros). Stretching but attainable.

    Particularly liked IMAMATE, CALVADOS and AUDIT. I was 10 in 1965, and UDI became a catch phrase at school when one of my more waggish – and sophisticated – classmates announced we should be declaring UDI against Latin: funny how these things stay with you, occupying valuable shelf space in the finite memory available…

    Found today’s even more straightforward, so if any Quickie aficionados happen to be reading this, I suggest you have a crack at it – it (for me) was around the same difficulty as one of the more challenging Quickies.

  5. Around 50 minutes though I’m becoming more relaxed about timing the weekend puzzles so that may have included any number of diversions and distractions along the way.

    I certainly lost time having written in CLA(S)P at 6ac though the definition doesn’t quite stand up on close inspection. Didn’t know MON or understand the Swann reference at 27.

    I wish I could have gone without hearing of UDI in 1965 and probably for about two years before and 10 years afterwards. Reports inevitably spoke of Ian Smith “declaring UDI” which always struck me as a somewhat tautological construction.

    Edited at 2014-07-05 09:38 am (UTC)

  6. Didn’t take too long, but a clever puzzle, I thought. Particularly liked NURSERYMAID and RUE.

    The only Mon I know occurs in Black Country dialect (Ow om yer owd mon?)

    There’s an apocryphal tale about Sir Thomas Beecham’s opinion of whether or not STOCKHAUSEN could be described as a composer, isn’t there?

    I’ve come across the pun in 13 before as the punch line of an old joke: “Tri-weekly, try weekly, try weakly.”

  7. 14m. I remembered UDI from at least one past crossword. It’s a bit obscure really: I suspect it’s very rarely taught in schools these days so if you weren’t alive at the time your chances of having heard of it are pretty slim.
    I agree that CARBONARA isn’t a type of pasta any more than Alfredo or Bolognese.
  8. SOED defines pasta as: A type of dough made from durum wheat flour and water and extruded or stamped into particular shapes… Also, an Italian dish consisting largely of this and usu. a sauce. L19.

    1. That’s fair, because if you say you’re ‘having pasta’, some sort of sauce is implicitly involved (or you’re having a very dull meal), but I don’t think this is the same as saying that CARBONARA is a ‘type of pasta’.
  9. Excepting only that I agree more with Nick (a nice puzzle for those of us with less experience) than with Sue (a bit longer than 8 minutes here); Carbonara is a sauce, not a pasta but the clue still led unambiguously to the answer; old enough to know UDI but my State-side education meant I had to look it up after the solve, (a nugget I am now glad to have); and for the same reason I never learned English rivers – so thought it was TEE, not TEES (or are there both?). A long way of saying that I guessed tee+n = a slightly unparsable kid, for an error. thanks for the blog

    Edited at 2014-07-05 02:09 pm (UTC)

  10. I interpreted “type of pasta” for carbonara as shorthand for “type of pasta dish”, same as bolognese would be.

    BTW, Tommy Beecham when asked whether he had ever conducted Stockhausen is reputed to have replied “No, but I think I trod in some once”.

    1. If you wanted to say ‘type of pasta dish’ why wouldn’t you say ‘type of pasta dish’ (or indeed just ‘pasta dish’), since ‘type of pasta’ means something else? At the very least it would be confusing.

      Edited at 2014-07-05 07:50 pm (UTC)

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