Quick Cryptic No 2814 by Orpheus

Oof, that was a toughie. After my first pass through the acrosses, I had filled in exactly six squares. At my normal target time of 15:00 I had well under half the grid filled in. I ended up finishing in 29:23, but I used aids so that makes this a technical DNF for those that keep score. Personally, once they get as hard as I found this, I say “go for it” on the aids.

There was some general knowledge that I didn’t have (one of the two poets and the historical Greek port), some that I kinda-sorta had (I did know “awn” for a bristle, but “awned” was new to me), and some clues that just sent me in entirely the wrong direction.

I think this is the hardest puzzle I’ve been the blogger for. I’m pretty pleased that I finished, but that was one heck of a challenge. I really hope that I’m not the only one to feel this way!

Definitions underlined, synonyms in round brackets, wordplay in square brackets and deletions in strikethrough. Anagram indicators italicised in the clue, anagram fodder indicated like (this)*.

Across
1 Trouble involving Republican poet’s fellowship (11)
BROTHERHOOD – BOTHER (trouble) including R for Republican, plus HOOD, a poet.

As I expect many other people have also found, “Hood Poet” is the fourth studio album by American rapper Polo G. (Wikipedia) However, I’m reasonably sure that Orpheus was referring to Thomas Hood (1799-1845).  Nope, I’d never heard of him either.

8 Function a northern group originally held in shelter (7)
TANGENT – first letters [originally] of A Northern Group in TENT (shelter).

That’s the tangent function from trigonometry: opposite over adjacent according to SOHCAHTOA, which has never quite left my head.

9 Giant bird primarily attacking nestlings (5)
TITAN – TIT (bird) + first letters of [primarily] Attacking Nestlings.
10 A fat file I arranged to band together (9)
AFFILIATE – (A fat file I)*
12 End of a motorway going west (3)
AIM – A + M1 (motorway), reversed [going west].

Only the motorway is reversed. I too wondered if “IMA” was a word.

13 Easy-going girl touring eastern part of UK (6)
GENIAL – GAL (girl) around [touring] both E (eastern) and NI (Northern Ireland – part of UK).

Very sneaky!

15 In Kent, oddly, it’s a young animal (6)
KITTEN – (Kent)* including IT.

For the longest time, I was convinced – convinced, I tell you – that this couldn’t possibly be KITTEN because it was clearly an anagram of “in Kent”. I felt so smug about all the people who would just be bunging in KITTEN without properly counting the letters. What is it they say about pride and falls?

17 A long time in Berkshire college — wasting time! (3)
EON – EtON, a college in Berkshire, without a T for time.
18 Acerbic worker, say, beside dyke (9)
TRENCHANT – ANT (worker, say) next to [beside] TRENCH (dyke).

To be honest, I’d always thought of dykes as the opposite of trenches: they are built up while trenches are dug down. Turn on “safe search” before checking. 🙂

20 Outstanding old air force formation (5)
OWING – O (old) + WING (air force formation).

I nearly convinced myself that a VERT was the name for one of those fancy flying formations in displays done by the likes of the Red Arrows.

22 Slowly father enters Greek port (7)
LEPANTO – LENTO (slowly, from music) with PA (father) included [enters].

I had faintly heard of the Battle of Lepanto. But Lepanto as a port – nope. Didn’t help that it doesn’t appear in Wikipedia’s “List of Greek ports” page either.

23 Brassed off retired man made noise like pig crossing lake (11)
DISGRUNTLED – SID (random man) reversed [retired] + GRUNTED (made noise like pig) including [crossing] L for Lake.
Down
1 A couple of females propping up bar in Scottish town (5)
BANFF – F for female twice, under [propping up] BAN (bar).

That’s the verb sense of ‘bar’. I wasn’t 100% sure there was a Scottish town called Banff, but I reasoned that the Banff in Canada could well be named after another instance. And so it was.

2 Negotiated about broken plate (9)
OVERLEAPT – OVER (about) + (PLATE)*

Hmm. I’m OK with “over” being a synonym for “about”. “Let’s talk about it” and “let’s talk it over” mean the same thing – the word order shifts, but I think that works. Where I have a problem with this clue is that I have never heard of the word. If I had avoided something by jumping over it, I would have “leapt over the [fallen chair, whatever]”. I can’t imagine a circumstance where I would use the word “overleapt”, even though it’s obvious what it means.

3 Hired assassin decapitated poet (3,3)
HIT MAN – Walt WHITMAN [decapitated].

American poet (1819 – 1892). I had heard of him, but the answer was biffed and then parsed.

4 Rubbish right outside entrance to oratory (3)
ROT – RT (right) containing [outside] the first letter of [entrance to] Oratory.

Rt for “right” persists in “The Rt Hon <insert random MP here>”.

5 Reject not in group performing play (7)
OUTCAST – OUT (not in) + CAST (group performing play).

This is such a neat clue.

6 Rule broken by English knight in branch of church (12)
DENOMINATION – DOMINATION (rule) containing [broken by] E for English and N for knight (as in chess notation).
7 Complete control of admiral finally entering unfamiliar cargo area (12)
STRANGLEHOLD – last letter of admiraL [finally] inside [entering] STRANGE (unfamiliar) HOLD (cargo area).

Another beauty of a clue. Sadly, by the time I got to this stage, the bludgeoning was beginning to tell and I didn’t appreciate it at the time.

11 Doctor copies friend of bishop (9)
EPISCOPAL – (COPIES)* + PAL (friend).
14 Directions restricting a girl’s nursemaids (7)
NANNIES – North and South (directions) containing [restricting] ANNIE (a girl).
16 Possibly Irving’s capital? (6)
BERLIN – double definition. Irving Berlin, songwriter.

I couldn’t get past Washington Irving for the longest time: Washington is even a capital!

19 A western fellow — bristly (5)
AWNED – A + W + NED (fellow).

An awn is a spiky seed, like many grasses have, designed specifically to get caught in socks.

21 Set up newspaper? Something fishy here (3)
GAR – RAG (newspaper) reversed [set up].

A gar is a type of fish in North America, long and skinny with sharp teeth. I think the word “here” is superfluous, but there could be something clever going on that I’ve just missed.

88 comments on “Quick Cryptic No 2814 by Orpheus”

  1. I found this one tricky in places. Biffed awned and overleapt, fortunately both were right. Didn’t put BANFF in for ages as I couldn’t remember if Scotland had one as well as Canada.

  2. 7:21 after firmly plonking my rear end on the luxurious seating in the SCC…
    agree with everyone who took more than 11 minutes

  3. Waste of time!

    32 minute DNF. Put LAPARGO for 22ac and then AWROD for 19dn.

    Another week blown and another day of humiliation.

    Only got two on Quintagram and about 2/3 of the big puzzle. Shocking even by my utterly pathetic standards.

    2 hours on cryptics this evening and absolutely zilch to show for it. Why do I bother? I have no idea what I am doing or how to improve, and I am thoroughly depressed by the whole thing.

    Don’t reply. I’m signing off for the day! I was a fool to think I could ever make a go of this. Sadly I’m addicted and so will return for more pain and suffering.

    ☹️☹️☹️

    1. At this stage, there’s no point in you having a weekly target until you are satisfied with meeting a daily target.

      When you can satisfy yourself with daily performance then you can set bigger goals.

  4. Didn’t start this until 5.30 and several breaks to prepare and digest supper and clear away, and to deal with interruptions. But altogether another (too) tough for me. Needed aids and used the on-line grid to check a few as I went. Share the questions re Overleapt/Awned/Lepanto. No problems with Gar (seen several times before) or Banff. Some really good clues eg Stranglehold/Denomination/Trenchant/Brotherhood . Overall this was a slog beyond my depth.
    FOI 12a Aim
    LOI 13a Genial
    COD no real candidates!
    Really too difficult for a QC imho.

  5. DNF

    Wanted to put WASHINGTON for Irving’s capital, but of course not nearly enough space. But it was the Greek port that defeated me with the clock just over 20.

  6. Feel quite pleased with myself for having just missed the SCC on this one (19:52), but I did have quite a few fingers crossed. Thanks all.

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