This was stretching it for a QC in my opinion, and I will be interested to hear how you all got on. There is some very tricky wordplay, and a few left-field definitions. I spent ages trying to crowbar a B into 3 down until the penny dropped. 10 minutes for me, way over target.
| Across | |
| 1 | Rubbished chronic type of fireworks (11) |
| PYROTECHNIC – anagram (‘rubbished’) of CHRONIC TYPE | |
| 8 | Less easy to restrain old obsessive person (7) |
| HOARDER – HARDER with O for old inside | |
| 9 | Early religious leader favoured by former queen (5) |
| PETER – PET (favoured) + ER | |
| 10 | Agitated man’s valid destructive behaviour (9) |
| VANDALISM – anagram (‘agitated’) of MANS VALID | |
| 12 | Individual working with energy (3) |
| ONE – ON (working) + E | |
| 13 | Aristocrat, oddly, regularly seen as unimportant figure (6) |
| NOBODY – NOB (aristo) + alternate letters of OdDlY | |
| 15 | Coin showing delicate line around head of King (6) |
| NICKEL – NICE + L round K for king. Slightly odd definition of ‘nice’. My dictionary says it can mean ‘slight’ or ‘subtle’, but ‘delicate’ seems a bit of a stretch. | |
| 17 | Chicken shed emitting quiet bird sound (3) |
| COO – COOP minus P | |
| 18 | Severe rain and storms surrounding company (9) |
| DRACONIAN – anagram (‘storms’) of RAIN AND outside CO. Tricky for a QC | |
| 20 | Consider flirting with detective at university (3,2) |
| EYE UP – (private) EYE + UP | |
| 22 | Dishonourable recording about a good-looking person (7) |
| CADDISH – CD outside A DISH | |
| 23 | Dicky hated milder setting for fantasy novels (6-5) |
| MIDDLE-EARTH – anagram (‘dicky’) of HATED MILDER | |
| Down | |
| 1 | Person easily manipulated to accept right component of cocktail? (5) |
| PRAWN – PAWN round R | |
| 2 | Editor and assistant interrupting revolutionary in the act (3-6) |
| RED-HANDED – ED and HAND inside RED | |
| 3 | Passionate Dorothy, embracing one bishop after upset (6) |
| TORRID – DOT with IRR inside all backwards. Poor QC-ers. You’ve just got the hang of bishop always meaning ‘B’, then they chuck in RR for Right Reverend. | |
| 4 | Top article amongst leaders of Conservative Party (3) |
| CAP – A inside C[onservative] and P[arty] | |
| 5 | Year away from US city brought about start of television channel? (7) |
| NETWORK – NEW YORK minus Y for year, around T for television. Another one with too many moving parts for a QC. | |
| 6 | Free access that’s arranged for central beach (5,7) |
| CARTE BLANCHE – anagram (‘arranged’) of CENTRAL BEACH. Another odd definition. Freedom of action, rather than access, surely? | |
| 7 | Son in possession of the best male toiletry (7,5) |
| SHAVING CREAM – S + HAVING + CREAM | |
| 11 | Protective gear delivered to religious group — delivered by post? (4-5) |
| MAIL-ORDER – MAIL (protective gear as in chain mail) + [religious] ORDER | |
| 14 | Reserved about new library item (7) |
| BOOKEND – BOOKED outside N | |
| 16 | Awkward Frenchman’s left (6) |
| GAUCHE – double definition | |
| 19 | Certain European flag over top of hall (5) |
| IRISH – IRIS is a flag, plus H for HALL | |
| 21 | Drink up, finding mate (3) |
| PAL – LAP (drink) backwards | |
I got into trouble because I had a wrong answer – ion instead of one. I knew there was something wrong in the NE, but I suspected Peter, which was in fact perfectly correct and justified by the cryptic. Eventually, I erased all the across answers and did the down clues, showing me my error.
Just a note on nice. Delicate is the a root meaning of nice, delicate in the sense of squeamish or prissy. It is common in the 14th through the 18th century, before nice became a word of general approbation among the Regency set.
Time: 12:18
ODE sv ‘nice’: Origin: Middle English (in the sense ‘stupid’) from Old Frenh, from Latin nescius ‘ignorant’ … Other early senses included ‘coy, reserved’, giving rise to ‘fastidious, scrupulous’: this led both to the sense ‘fine, subtle’ (regarded by some as the ‘correct’ sense), and to the main current senses.
You can say ‘a nice distinction’ meaning a subtle or delicate distinction.
10 minutes, so on target but only just as my first thought at 15ac derived from wordplay was FINKEL which might well have been the name of a coin, but not really eligible for a QC perhaps. After rejecting that I spotted delicate = NICE (a meaning I did happen to know) and NICKEL then fell into place.
Not rioting exactly but I did note a bit of missing wit and sparkle. Dragged myself over the line in 21m. Best moment was finally seeing what was going on with BOOKEND but biggest relief was seeing NICKEL fitted – didn’t parse it though! Accurate typing today though!
Well I came in all green at the end, but only after nearly 40 minutes (39:23) of my life had passed. It was a bit like wading through treacle and some of the parsing seemed incomprehensible even after I’d got the answer. (I also have to spend much longer spell-checking at the end with this new format.)
So a tricky one to end to the week.
I enjoyed PYROTECHNIC, once I’d seen the anagrist, and although I initially thought IRISH was ludicrous I saw it was a clever clue upon closer inspection. LOI BOOKEND.
So a satisfying, if difficult, end to a satisfactory week.
It’s another lovely morning here in the land of the Jurassic Coast, apple cake and heavily polluted bays, so happy weekends all 👍
Oh, and thanks to Pedro and Curarist.
Didn’t find it as tricky as some but I never did parse DRACONIAN or NETWORK.
NICKEL raised an eyebrow but there aren’t many coins that have a ‘k’ in the middle of them so it didn’t prove much of a hold up. The other clue I had troubles with was 19d where I wondered how IRISH could mean certain – for once too much lifting and separating!
Finished in 8.00
Thanks to Curarist
Biffed PYROTECHNIC & DRACONIAN, parsed post-submission. No problem with NICE. A channel is affiliated with a network, it isn’t a network in itself, is it? In any case, QC or not, I thought it was a clumsy clue. 7:39. (6′ is my target time, set arbitrarily some time ago and seldom met recently.)
Yes, I thought that about the network too.
Bizarrely, I managed to get this one done in 21 mins with no aids. However, there were several that I could not parse, and only got because of good crossers. Those were: IRISH, EYE-UP, NICKEL, DRACONIAN, RED-HANDED, TORRID.
So, a decent time (for me) – I’ll take it, but got there ugly, as they say.
By the way, I still don’t fully get EYE-UP. I get the EYE bit, as in private eye, and I get the U from university. But where does the P come from?
U=university, UP=‘at university’
Oxbridge only I think. We Red Brickers didn’t use it.
I agree. I am proud to have earned three degrees from an excellent redbrick University and would never have described my time there as ‘up’ in any sense.
It is one of the expressions that, historically, was used to separate those who imagined they were the elite from the grunts who didn’t reach their imagined heights. Few of the fine Oxbridge graduates I have worked very well with over the years ever thought of themselves as ‘up’.
Similarly for London. I always go down to London because I live further north. That will set the cat amongst the pigeons, no doubt……
I always imagined that one was ‘up’ when at university because it was the opposite of being ‘sent down’ or expelled, but what do I know – I’m an Open University graduate?
Definitely a step up from puzzles earlier in the week, and it took me 16 minutes, well over my average. But despite our blogger’s concerns, not I think wholly unfair as a QC, even so, and there were a fair number of less demanding clues to give one a good entry to the puzzle.
LOI was Network, and I never did parse it, but for me the bigger hold-ups were Carte Blanche (odd to define it as free access, and it took time and lateral thinking to find a word ending in …N-H-) and Torrid (yes, I did try to fit a B in there, but the bigger issue was Torrid = Passionate, as I tend to think more of Torrid as difficult, as in “he was having a torrid time”).
Many thanks to Curarist for the blog, and a good weekend to all.
Cedric
A torrid love affair rings a bigger bell with me.
This tricky puzzle took over average time, because I had to wait for crossers in 6d to see that the anagrist could not be FREE ACCESS IE, at first deceived by the insertion of “for” after the anagrind into thinking it could not be CENTRAL BEACH; one blot, IMO, on an otherwise superb puzzle. NHO MIDDLE EARTH novels, but it seemed likely enough to go in without too many qualms after discarding MIDDLE HEART. FOI PYROTECHNIC, LOI CARTE BLANCHE and COD IRISH. Thanks Pedro and Excurararist.
Middle Earth: Hobbit and Lord of the Rings territory.
Thanks. I suspected it was that. My late wife, a lover of all novels, suggested I start with The Hobbit when I asked what all the fuss with Harry. Potter was about. I didn’t enjoy it and gave up half way through. So a big gap in my GK!
1137 Birth of Owain Glyndŵr, last Welsh Prince of Wales.
My totals for the week were 5 finished for a total of under one hour (just). After a black week of 5 DNFs the previous week, a marked difference.
Not too bad, with rapid LOI PYROTECHNIC and LOI NICKEL. Guessing the likely position of K opened up NETWORK, where I misread “brought up” indicating a reversal. Also had PRO=favoured for that famous leader PROER, nearly looked him up.
Didn’t like “storms” as an anagram indicator. And NHO of IRIS=flag, and they are my favourite flower.
WOD CADDISH, though setter missed the opportunity for a homophone with Kaddish.
iris=flag is a chestnut around here, so well worth keeping in mind.
No idea what my problem is but did this in 9 minutes when usually can’t finish at all – must be on the same wavelength as the setter
Way over target for me, although my concentration was poor. PYROTECHNIC and CARTE BLANCHE both took a while (and some checkers) to see. I liked PRAWN. Thanks Curarist and Pedro. 7:10.
Wavelength – decent time – top 20 at this early stage.
I liked MIDDLE EARTH, CARTE BLANCHE was written out, IRISH LOI – iris = flag is one of my blind spots.
5:35
An unenjoyable waste of my time – Monday’s 15 x 15 was easier. Thanks curarist though!
After an enjoyable week of puzzles much more deserving of the QC designation, Pedro offers this to us for a Friday! Many very interesting clues but it was not a QC. Pedro should offer his talents to the 15×15 puzzle editor and leave us slow, ignorant solvers in peace. I am not embarrassed to have joined the SCC today.
I leave others to judge this more rationally.
Many thanks to Curarist for making an interesting blog out of this. John M.
A struggle in 15 minutes. Didn’t like NETWORK or CARTE BLANCHE.
19:40 (too much history happening to pick a single event. Maybe I’ll stick with 1940 – birth of Brian Josephson)
I started very quickly on the top half of the grid, and thought I may be on track for a record time, then got bogged down in the SE corner. CARTE BLANCHE and NICKEL were my last two in. NICKEL is less obvious from a UK perspective – I had run through most of the coins I knew before my mind crossed the Atlantic.
A narrow escape from the SCC. I enjoyed this puzzle, and would be happy if most QCs were about this level of difficulty.
Thanks Pedro and Curarist
The left hand side went in quickly but in the end I took 16 minutes delayed by NETWORK and particularly LOI CARTE BLANCHE.
I took a long time to see the anagram for Carte Blanche; the indicator Arranged is followed by FOR; so surely that has to be part of the fodder. Eventually I decided that For had no real role other than helping the surface; and really the word should not be there (agree with Ozned above). And the definition was loose to say the least.
COD to IRISH.
David
I saw 6d as a kind of reverse anagram with the ‘for’ telling you that the answer CARTE BLANCHE could be arranged to give CENTRAL BEACH.
About 25 mins for me, but content to take my place in the SCC. Top half, apart from CARTE BLANCHE (LOI eventually) went in quicker than the bottom. Like Curarist I wasn’t helped by “access” in 6D but once all the checkers were in place I could see what went where.
DRACONIAN also took a while to work through. The “oddly, regularly” in 13 A was cleverly confusing initially. Nothing I would moan about overall but not one to savour particularly for me.
8:49
I have Pedro down as the toughest of the more regular setters, averaging more than ten minutes against them, so am not surprised by a chewier challenge today. Didn’t have too many problems apart from initially typing in DORRIT rather than TORRID, which delayed solving of 1a. Does a single channel qualify as a NETWORK? I don’t know, but with ‘brought about’ in the clue to 5d, I was trying to fit a backwards US city around T – couldn’t work out how to parse KROWEN……. doh!
Thanks Pedro and Curarist
Finished it (in the usual hour)! A struggle, and the blog much needed for some parsings, so thank you, Curarist. FOI PYROTECHNIC (liked that one), LOI CARTE BLANCHE, whence my MER: “for” in the clue surely implies anagram of “free access” + “i e” (for “that’s”), arranged “for” the next bit which would be the definition – instead of which it’s the reverse – so what is that “for” doing there, please? Good: we agree carte blanche = free access is dubious. Anyway, for me Finished = a Good Day.
So: NHO flag = IRIS (but had to be), and NHO storms or dicky as anagram indicators.
Ach, confession: I used bishop = B to make the word TORBID which I now see doesn’t exist … will learn bishop also = RR, thank you, Curarist!
In my humble opinion, the QC clues are a tad looser than those of the 15×15 where the clueing is very tight and every word is relevant (there are rare exceptions). For the QC, it is more common for the odd word to be there to make the clue read more smoothly without being part of the parsing. I think ‘for’ in the CARTE BLANCHE clue falls into that category.
Struggled to complete this one, but got there in the end, with the cat helping me with just one clue (6d).
19d I had I-I-H. Just had to be IRISH, but no idea how. I put it in as it was my last answer.
The compilers do like the obscure meanings of common words. Flag can be an iris, as is arsenic, and, as I recently learned, a shrug is a sleeveless garment.
I don’t think as is ever arsenic; As is.
I biffed IRISH and I was thrown by ‘Iris is a flag’ in the blog parsing.
I looked it up and found the Flag Iris. Surely ‘flag’ is an Iris, not the other way round?
Better, ‘Flag is a type of Iris’. That makes a difference to my understanding and I hope to remember it in future.
Note. The name ‘flag’ is apparently from the middle English word ‘flagge’, meaning rush or reed.
Judging by the times so far submitted, it would seem much harder than average, although my time of 10.44 was less than a minute over target. I got a little bogged down in the ne corner at the end with NICKEL, PETER and NETWORK taking a while to work out. I think I must have thought of every British medieval coin issued before I finally considered that it may be a foreign coin.
My total time for the week was 46.00, giving me a daily average of 9.12. So nicely inside target after the previous two weeks that averaged over 12 minutes.
44mins (DNF) after correcting fInKEL and having already spent last 8+ mins trawling IRISH for other possibilities. Those two clues with delicate=nice and “certain European” highlighting everything that was inappropriate about this for the QC. You needed to be a 15×15 person stepping down – to know stuff the setter probably thought was standard fare like DISH=good-looking person or IRIS=flag.
Elsewhere I was held up by thinking Proer was an early religious person and spotting the not-hidden TORODE upset in passionatE DOROThy for some kind of middle of the clue def for a bishop. That then prevented VANDALISM. Further issues with MAIL-ORDER, DRACONIAN crossing pair.
People always say “don’t worry about your times, it’s about the enjoyment”. And they’re absolutely correct. Unfortunately I’ve lost my enjoyment for the QC – it’s been too variable over the last couple of months – I find myself fearing them each day; it’s an obligation over when it’s done. The book of QCs #1 I’m very much enjoying as they are usually under 25-mins. And I’ve started doing the Daily Express Crusader which has come in this week at around 18, 21, 36, 17, 16 so has been a nice QUICK workout – I guess I know my place!
After a week surrounded by extremely pyrotechnic devices, 1A gave no hesitation. Against the flow of comments, I breezed through today in a rare sub 15 min (14.55) finish, with LOI IRISH biffed as I NHO flag.
Thanks Curarist and Pedro.
Interested to read about SNITCH. Not sure it is relevant to my routine of QCC on Times Android App followed by TFTT if I have time.
Taken over target to 17 minutes for this Pedro puzzle, and not unhappy with that. My LTI were DRACONIAN and RED HANDED. Thanks both.
Am I the only one to take issue with “emitting” in 17A? Does it have a meaning of Omission that I’m unaware of? [Just had a thought: is it supposed to be a kind of play on the words “putting out” = leaving out? Blimey: somebody please enlighten me – I’ve wasted far too much time this morning getting indignant ..]
As per your thought, the word COOP (chicken shed) emits its P (quietly), leaving behind COO (bird sound).
Pity, I put Pater instead of PETER. LOI NETWORK.
Enjoyed this otherwise, though slow. Perhaps I am gradually getting better at anagrams.
Liked MIDDLE EARTH, PRAWN (COD), CARTE BLANCHE, MAIL ORDER, GAUCHE. Could not parse BOOKEND – doh!
Thanks vm, Curarist.