While this continued my run this week of being in the 15/16/17 range at 17.22 it felt a lot meatier with a lot of the wordplay needing a lot of untangling. I took time to make sure I had the wordplay sussed before submitting. I don’t think I would be able to name the musteline creature if I saw one, and I don’t think I’ve come across this particular form of the one man show before, but they’re barely obscurities. There’s nothing here that comes in the category “words I don’t know”, though that might not be everyone’s experience. I appreciated the smooth surfaces.
To aid digestion, I have placed clues in italics, the definitions therein underlined, and solutions in bold CAPITALS
Across
1 Citizen’s “thing” about new copper by entrance to nick (9)
MANCUNIAN A fairly specific citizen, then. “Thing” is MANIA, which is placed about N(ew) CU (copper, chemistry) and by N(ick). The surface is a nice little vignette.
6 Victorious boxer, say, taking tea with elected member (5)
CHAMP Tea is CHA, elected member MP
9 Cool off by upper room reportedly in buff? (7)
FANATIC Buff has a variety of meanings, here it’s “enthusiast”, which Chambers traces to “a keen attender at fires, so called from the buff uniform of the former New York volunteer firemen”. And why not? For our construction purposes, FAN is cool off, and the ATIC bit comes from the reported sound of an upper room or attic.
10 Plaintive cry from male cat going about with queen (7)
WHIMPER The cat here is a WHIP, going about M(ale) and with the Queen, ER tacked on.
11 Incompetent people initially taken in at home and abroad (5)
INEPT People initially P, at home IN, “and” abroad (in France, anyway ET. Assemble.
12 Dodge bloke carrying extremely angular wooden slat (9)
DUCKBOARD Usually laid down over muddy terrain to provide a pathway, and I would have said a number of slats joined together rather than justone slat. Dodge provides the DUCK bloke is BOD, and the extremes of AngulaR are inserted.
13 Justification for reversing, avoiding a head wind (5)
NOSER That’ll be REASON (justification) reversed with its A avoided. A noser can also be a punch on the nose, an inquisitive person or a more general rebuff.
14 Ill-famed old port toured by other people? (9)
NOTORIOUS The old port gives you O RIO, and NOT US is what you might call other people
17 Lack of spirit in second author’s first stage piece (9)
MONODRAMA, I assume a play for one. Lack of spirit is NO DRAM placed in second: MO, and author’s first: A
18 Some retired fella backing a conspiratorial group (5)
CABAL Today’s reverse (retired) hidden in felLA BACking
19 Played for each class — Elgar and Delius to begin with (9)
PERFORMED Each class is PER FORM, and then you need the first letters of Elgar and Delius, helpfully capitalised for you.
22 Semi-divine spirit heard near a pond ultimately (5)
NAIAD Near, or in this case nigh, heard gives you the NAI bit and a gives you A, and the ultimate in pond the D
24 Resort where I live surrounded by workers (7)
ANTIBES Much loved by Graham Greene. I live gives you ungrammatically I BE, which you surround with the workers, who in crosswordland are usually ANTS
25 Demonstration disc found in a church gallery (7)
ACETATE Back in the days of proper records made of black stuff, acetates were the discs that the original sound was cut into, either for demonstration purposes or to create the master for pressing copies. Not really made of acetate, but of nitrocellulose lacquer, but the misnomer stuck. Here, a straight charade of A C(hurch of) E(ngland) TATE gallery.
26 Social distinction of Liberal entertained by English queen, perhaps (5)
ÉCLAT Those who did yesterday’s will remember that the queen is sometimes, as here, a CAT. The E comes from English, and the enclosed L from Liberal. A French word with several translations, one of which fits.
27 Furniture-maker finding love in a crowded complex (9)
CEDARWOOD You have to stop thinking about carpenters and cabinet makers and concentrate on the stuff that makes up furniture. Surprisingly only the first anagram (complex) of O (0, love) in A CROWDED
Down
1 Muslim legal expert in plain clothes (5)
MUFTI Two meanings, the second being military slang for non-uniform, possibly derived from the first.
2 No-hoper’s note about first of songs in Evita (3-6)
NON-PERSON Note: N, about: ON first of songs: S, and Evita’s married surname was PERON. More often someone whose status has been erased for political reasons.
3 Ignorant over revolutionary crushed by a French king (9)
UNTUTORED So it’s O(ver) RED (revolutionary) crushed by (here, just underneath) UN for A in French, and the king is TUT, the colloquial version of Tutankhamun.
4 Possible theatre pieces culminate in disc for distribution (10,5)
INCIDENTAL MUSIC A (re)distribution of CULMINATE IN DISC
5 Modern Glaswegian woman with a way round northern police HQ (3,8,4)
NEW SCOTLAND YARD HQ of the Metropolitan Police. Modern gives NEW, then Glaswegian woman is just a SCOT LADY, which together with a way, or A RD, finds itself round N(orthern)
6 Make progress as Conservative member (5)
CLIMB Just a C(onservative) LIMB for member.
7 Highest grade of hotel in mountain area (5)
ALPHA H(otel) in ALP (mountain) A(rea)
8 Capital fellow digesting notice, full of bliss (9)
PARADISAL The capital is PARIS, the digested notice is AD, and the random fellow is AL
13 Bloke in gym upset over recent form of identification (9)
NAMEPLATE Bloke in gym is PE MAN, all reversed (upset). Revent provides LATE
15 Storyteller’s regret about supporting crook in desert (9)
RACONTEUR Regret is RUE, which must be reversed (about). It supports, in this down clue, crook: CON buried in desert (RAT)
16 Big tool a builder originally contrived for important bit of work (9)
OBBLIGATO A “contrived” version of BIG TOOL A plus the first letter of Builder. Musical term for what it says.
20 Charge pounds to see musteline mammal (5)
RATEL One of the badger/weasel family here indicated. Charge is RATE especially when a local tax, L (or £) for pounds
21 Circuit minister finally overcome by memorial notice (5)
ORBIT The last letter of ministeR surrounded by OBIT short for obituary.
23 Fearfully anticipate being late securing runs (5)
DREAD Possibly the current feeling in the England batting line up. Being late is DEAD (as in the late Dent Arthur Dent), R(uns) being inserted)
This was really a clever puzzle, very fair, with a little bit of obscure stuff – I suspect not everyone will know what an acetate is.
WHIMPER took a while, while I tried to fit in TOM or MIAOW. RATEL known both as honey bear and an anagram of later/alter/artel. Dnk OBBLIGATO but had vaguely seen the construction without knowing its meaning. Is everybody on holiday or has LJ crashed?
16′ 49”, thanks z and setter.
No dramas, except the Mono one and controlling the eyebrow flutter over ‘crushed’.
Thanks setter and great blog Z.
Edited at 2019-08-15 10:02 am (UTC)
I also thought of ways of crushing things without the crushing necessarily being from above. There are enough to agitate the brow.
Edited at 2019-08-15 03:31 pm (UTC)
FOI 1dn MUFTI
SOI 1ac Mancunian (IKEAN) (We can now watch Coronation Street in Shanghai on Channel 122 at 6.45pm! It now stars Polish Royalty Rula Lenska and uncuddly Ken (What of Dennis and Deirdre!): Maureen Lipman as Mrs. Grumpy – Evelyn Plummer! What is going on in my absence?) Mais je m’égare.
LOI MONODRAMA although I wrestled with both MINIDRAMA and MELODRAMA.(Enough of the ‘Cobbles Icons’ hereabouts.)
COD 2dn NON-PERSON (Ray?)
WOD NEW SCOTLAND YARD
Edited at 2019-08-15 07:40 am (UTC)
Antibes brought back happy memories. Cap d’Antibes is a fabulous place
My unknowns today conjure an image of a RATEL performing a MONODRAMA standing on a DUCKBOARD stage while accompanied by music from an ACETATE disc and being supervised for correctness by a MUFTI…
I wavered between MELODRAMA and an invented word, MOCUDRAMA, before hitting on the correct answer.
RATEL has come up before. At that time I thought it was a make of amplifier but that was ROTEL wasn’t it!
NAIAD was DJINN for a while.
No real COD.
Thanks to Z for parsing WHIMPER and UNTUTORED. I parsed another four (!) after finishing. Fast, but a little unsatisfying. NHO MONODRAMA.
FOI CHAMP
LOI INCIDENTAL MUSIC
COD DUCKBOARD
TIME 7:37
I’ve meandered into the City Centre and it’s an excellent place to sample good beer.
Secondly, the fiver will go on Pink gins not the bus.
A comprehensive and congenial blog, Z. Thank you!
NAIAD took a little while, and it seems to me there are umpteen -ADs, what with dryads (nymphs of woodland), oreads (nymphs of mountains) and farads (nymphs of electricity); does anyone happen to have a complete list?
I was thinking of a joke about GONADS but this is not the place and I don’t have the …
OBBLIGATO, coming hot on the heels of COLLINEAR, is another one that feels like it has too many letters. Fortunately it rang a bell from a previous puzzle, so I didn’t get as concerned by it as I did back then.
I didn’t love ‘Bloke in gym’ as PE MAN, and I’m not sure about [wordplay] in [definition] at 9a. But I’m nit-picking now.
LOI 2dn, as hadn’t known it as ‘no-hoper’ and had been trying to make MELODRAMA parse for 17ac.
Just right to do while watching the cricket. Finished in 39 minutes with another 5 minutes or so to fully parse.
Thanks to setter and blogger
The trouble is I don’t always have enough faith in my parsing, so when it comes to clues like Noser, I tend to give up. I had the correct answer but didn’t like the look of at all so didn’t enter it. Quite an ugly word IMO. I solve on paper, so there’s no opportunity to use the check button.
The mustelid reference was no problem – too many years of watching Springwatch, so it was just a question of going through the list in my brain! Mind you, I don’t imagine there are too many honey badgers in Norfolk or Gloucestershire!
I must admit to a certain amount of biffing, with the aim of post-solve parsing, but ended up relying on our blogger’s hard work instead. So thanks Z8 😊
FOI Champ
COD Notorious
I didn’t get monodrama, so couldn’t get non-person either. So a DNF for me.
Interesting to see ‘queen’ appearing as a cat in the surface reading and a monarch in the wordplay at 10ac, and then the opposite at 26ac.
Anyway, 14:33 and I couldn’t say for certain if Mufti (as a legal expert), monodrama and noser were unknown or just forgotten.
I think you’re probably right, and the Glaswegian Scot should be separated from the lady woman (might be a good idea in principle too!), though at the time of solving it felt like an ok bit of shorthand.
Non-person, often without the hyphen has a different online presence. Collins gives “a person regarded as nonexistent or unimportant; a nonentity” and as an example (possible tastelessness alert): “To the Church a clerical widow isn’t even persona non grata – she’s simply a non-person.”
Wiki has an entire article dedicated to nonperson (no hyphen) including “In Nazi extermination camps, Jewish people and Romani were treated as nonpersons. The purpose of these camps was to systematically dehumanise these unwanted elements, use them where possible, and dispose of them efficiently. “Nonperson” status was required because it removed the moral and social obstacles for committing otherwise objectionable acts of violence, crime, abuse, and murder.”
Again: “A person that does not appear on any official documents, is economically or socially inactive, or lives outside of what is defined as the ‘productive system’ or ‘organized society’ could be classified as a nonperson.”
It seems to me that we are venturing much closer to the idea of a non-person being effectively a no-hoper in the sense of being deprived of hope, rather more than if we slip into (mombled) Newspeak.
There was a striking example of becoming a non-person in the remarkable Chernobyl, series. Lugasov, the scientist who defied the state to reveal the catastrophic weakness at the heart of Soviet design is treated thus:
Legasov: I know who I am, and I know what I’ve done. In a just world, I’d be shot for my lies, but not for this, not for the truth.
Charkov: Scientists…and your idiot obsessions with reasons. When the bullet hits your skull, what will it matter why? No one’s getting shot, Legasov. The whole world saw you in Vienna; it would be embarrassing to kill you now. And for what? Your testimony today will not be accepted by the State. It will not be disseminated in the press. It never happened. No… you will live, however long you have. But not as a scientist. Not anymore. You’ll keep your title and your office, but no duties. No authority. No friends. No one will talk to you. No one will listen to you. Other men, lesser men, will receive credit for the things you have done. Your legacy is now their legacy; you will live long enough to see that.
Did it leave him as a no-hoper? Perhaps not, as he smuggled his findings out to the scientific community before committing suicide, but there is something particularly vile in the condemnation to non-personhood he received.
Edited at 2019-08-15 09:44 pm (UTC)