27886 Thursday, 28 January 2021 In which resistance isn’t futile

I worked steadily through this in very nearly 18 minutes, some of the time thinking there’d be struggles in some quarters, what with TLS qualified authors and non-Python philosophers, a bizarre plant or two, and bits from Latin and Greek. Feel free to rumble menacingly about the liberties taken by setters in feeding this habit of ours. On the other hand, there are some quite inventive devices in several clues to take us off the beaten track of solving, though one of them at 18 is, I think, a bit muffed.
I provide the clues in italics, the definitions therein also underlined, and the SOLUTIONS just so

ACROSS

1 Sees hint about locations where drivers may pull in (3,5)
PIT STOPS A generous reversal clue (about) in which sees hint becomes SPOTS TIP to provide the required letters
5 Prevent what allows youngster to fall asleep in school (6)
SCOTCH Those of us who have experience of the smaller variety of human might hope that a COT allows them to sleep. More like provides a space where, by some miracle, they might just stop their primary activities of creating noise and ordure if we’re very lucky. Anyway, place it in SCH(ool)
9 Period of time in which to embed a plant (8)
CENTAURY Nope, not in my garden. Or my vocab. But take a chance and embed A in CENTURY, which is a well enough known period of time.
10 Margaret with expression of surprise — maiden showing a lot of resistance (6)
MEGOHM The Margaret in my family was indeed a maiden aunt. We didn’t call her MEG, she might occasionally have expressed surprise with an OH, and we’d never have referred to her as a M(aiden) in her hearing, but the three elements still combine to make a significantly high measure of electrical resistance compared to a single ohm. A million times the size.
12 Studied English to become an author (5)
READE Probably Charles, who wrote The Cloister and the Hearth on the imagined life and adventures of the parents of Erasmus, and much besides. READ for studied with an E(nglish) tacked on.
13 Step up, being against standing still (9)
PROMOTION If you’re against standing still, you might be PRO MOTION.
14 Hurried down at first and fell (12)
PRECIPITATED Hurried gives the adjective PRECIPITATE, and if you put a D(own) on the end it becomes the past tense fell, as in rain.
18 Unwise financial procedure that could have company in money, strangely (5,7)
FALSE ECONOMY  I rather think the clue works better without the anagram indicator “strangely”, which when applied to CO(mpany in) MONEY produces the ECONOMY. But I don’t really see where the FALSE comes from. Without “strangely”, it works as a rather nifty reverse cryptic clue in which the answer provides a clue to produce company in money, with “false” acting as the anagram indicator.
21 Report can supply just the opposite (3,6)
PER CONTRA Supply here is an anagram indicator, applied to REPORT CAN relatively easy Latin.
23 Falsetto’s cast in part in opera (5)
TOSCA Today’s “hidden” answer (in part) in FalsetTOS CAst. Just because I can, here is the Japanese male sopranist Tomotaka Okamoto singing (arguably in a fantastic falsetto) Ms Floria Tosca’s aria “vissi d’arte” from the Puccini opera.
24 Body of legislators had to back second measure (6)
SENATE Had as in ATE behind S(econd) EN, a measure in type
25 Dealing with famous author (8)
FIELDING Several candidates, not including the still-living Helen who is responsible for Bridget Jones’ Diary. Henry, maybe. I will be available for fielding questions on the subject at intervals in the day.
26 Shocking treatment you guards quietly copy (6)
ECTYPE Trust the cryptic time. ECT (Electro Convulsive Therapy, which I’m surprised to see is both current and approved treatment) plus YE for you “guarding” P for quite.  A philosophical rather than an office machinery concept.
27 Go hunt, us? Quite otherwise, if something’s this (8)
UNSOUGHT Pretty much an &lit, in which the anagram (quite otherwise) of GO HUNT US produces a situation (our answer) in which go hunt us wouldn’t happen.

DOWN
1 Astronaut, first to last, nags (6)
PACERS Horses, that is, that kind of nags. An astronaut might be described as a SPACER, and you then move the S to the other end.
2 Secret society joined by a new islander (6)
TONGAN The secret society is the Chinese version TONG, plus A and N(ew)
3 Rather unpleasant fellow, say, always turning up (2,1,6)
TO A DEGREE Unpleasant fellow TOAD, say (for example) EG, plus E’ER for always turned up.
4 Shrewdness a star’s shown when joining urban community (12)
PERSPICACITY One of those where the innocuous A must be read as PER (two A penny). SPICA is the brightest star in Virgo, and the urban community is, unsurprisingly, CITY.
6 It’s right in church to perform part of service in Latin (5)
CREDO R(ight inserted into C(hurch of) E(ngland) and DO for perform added.
7 Philosophers? Most of that lot maybe fret inwardly (8)
THOMISTS Take most of THOS(e) and insert MIST for that sort of (sea) fret. Thomists are of the school of Thomas Aquinas.
8 Carriers conveying small ancestors of ours? (8)
HOMINIDS HODS are carriers (for bricks, but you knew that) and they “convey” MINI for small.
11 Companies not fussed about providing payment for injury? (12)
COMPENSATION An excellent anagram (fussed) of COMPANIES NOT.
15 Man has a dig to get round plant (9)
TOMATILLO Of the nightshade family producing berries much used in Mexican cuisine. I would say trust the cryptic again, but it’s not quite so easy. TOM is your random man, A is in plain sight, TILL stands in for dig, and you then get a round O. Hm.
16 It could suggest I step where one may slither dangerously? (3-5)
OFF-PISTE Another (this time definitely) reverse cryptic clue, in which the answer is a clue to I step, being an anagram (OFF) of PISTE. I toyed with ice-space and similar for a while as homophonic, almost.
17 Music-maker having wine outside home (8)
CLARINET Pleasant wine, CLARET, outside IN for home.
19 Regal request? (6)
ASKING In which regal is (behaving) AS KING
20 Plasterwork that is what you expect to obtain (6)
PARGET Commonplace round these parts, decorative plaster applied to the outside of houses to make them look pretty. Aficionados my recognise the Pargetter family from The Archers whose name derives from the craft. What you expect is PAR (for the course) and obtain provides the GET
22 Indication of what’s hot or cold may be here, readily available (2,3)
ON TAP “A cryptic hint plus a definition”. Just to prove I do read the contributions.

53 comments on “27886 Thursday, 28 January 2021 In which resistance isn’t futile”

  1. 10:40, with a decent amount of time at the end wrangling between PARGET which fit the wordplay better and TARGET which fit the definition, though I am terrible at hitting on in any sport.
  2. TARGET was what I expected to get when I checked… Ha! i couldn’t think of any other word that fit, so had to come here.
    Very enjoyable… except for that!
    But now, at least, I know a new word, which I can put to use at the earliest opportunity…
    I had the same thought about the clue for FALSE ECONOMY (a new term with perhaps more immediate utility).
  3. DNK CENTAURY, PARGET (POI), ECTYPE, MEGOHM, although the last two pretty much leaped to mind; I was much less confident about the first two. LOI was THOMISTS, simply because I couldn’t for the longest time see how it worked, until finally I remembered ‘fret’. I failed to notice any problem with FALSE ECONOMY.
  4. was my only unknown and my LOI at 44 minutes. I nearly put ESTOP. But a decent enough puzzle.

    FOI 22dn ON TAP

    LOI 9ac CENTAURY a herb of the gentian family which rang an unrelated Canterbury Bell – but I left it until last- to be sure.

    COD 3dn TO A DEGREE – the bloke from ‘Toad Hall’.

    WOD 20dn PARGET – ‘pargetting’ is often seen on the outside of houses in Suffolk – I remember a lot in Clare – and north Essex. It is known as ‘pinking’ in Norfolk, which has a link to ‘pinking shears’; which I would assume meant simply, decorating.

    And Lincolshire’s ‘fret’ got another outing – my mother used it most mornings in the spring and early autumns at Chapel St. Leonards.

    Edited at 2021-01-28 04:18 am (UTC)

  5. This was a “trust the wordplay” day with ECTYPE, PARGET, PER CONTRA, CENTAURY, THOMISTS, SPICA (I just assumed PERSPICA was a star I’d never heard of). But it took me forever to come up with FIELDING since the only word I could see that would fit was DIALLING. I think adding “famous” to the clue made it harder since any author that appears as an answer should be famous, so I assumed it was some part of a wordplay that I didn’t understand. But got there in the end.
  6. Had ESTYPE (thinking ‘electroshock therapy’, which is the only way I’ve heard of it), but knew it wasn’t right, so had a look in the dictionary. I’m rather in awe of all of you who solved this puzzle in relatively normal times. I had to grind out every square.

    Interestingly, I put in PIT STOPS immediately upon starting the puzzle but took it out because I couldn’t see how the wordplay would work… only to put it in again 50 minutes later. If I’d gone with my gut I might have had a better foothold for the puzzle.

  7. Add me to the ranks of the DNFs as I completed the grid only after resorting to aids for the last three outstanding answers.

    I nearly got there without help but there were so many unknown words or meanings along the way that I rather lost interest and ran out of steam.

    The ones I looked up were THOMISTS (I’d got as far as THO?I?TS) PARGET and FIELDING. I know ‘pargeting’ and what it means (There’s a family in ‘The Archers’ called Pargeter), but I don’t recall seeing ‘parget’ on its own and it simply didn’t occur to me despite having ?A?GET in place.

    1. Exactly the same three left unsolved as the hour passed, so I came here to complete and submitted without leaderboard. Far too many arcane and unknown words for me, robbing the puzzle of aha moments and replacing them with mounting uncertainty as the grid filled. However I did enjoy OFF PISTE and COMPENSATION.
  8. My terrible run continued today having entered PEGOHM. With hindsight it’s obvious that it should have been MEGOHM. It’s frustrating as I was pleased to have managed CENTAURY, PARGET, ECTYPE and THOMISTS.
  9. I couldn’t get my head around the surface at 26. Does it make sense? I struggled with all the unknowns already mentioned.
  10. …ed olezzava la terra…

    25 mins notwithstanding the Megohm, Ectype and Parget.
    No ticks, no crosses, no MERs.
    Thanks setter and Z.

    Edited at 2021-01-28 07:08 am (UTC)

  11. 24 minutes, surprising myself. LOI was ECTYPE having been flirting with Ectopy. COD to FALSE ECONOMY. I would have liked to have given it to THOMISTS, which I biffed then retrofitted, but I think that clue could be thought somewhat esoteric. I always preferred the Augustine/Plato line of thought to Aquinas/Aristotle anyway. That’s the philosophy of religion module covered. I did not know CENTAURY but biffed it early when I thought this was going to be a stinker. I enjoyed this but I suspect some won’t. Thank you Z and setter.
  12. I decided Thoreau deserved some followers and went with THORISTS. What is more RIST means to carve on a surface so it seemed to fit with fret. And so with great confidence and a smile on my face, I hit the submit button and… AAARRRGGG! But I also targetted parget anyway. Oops!
    1. Didn’t know ‘fret’ = MIST, even though I had T.O.ISTS
      Didn’t know what THOMISTS were.
  13. I had to check PARGET was a thing
    And took ages to think of FIELDING
    Spacer was quite odd
    I’ll make that my CLOD
    But SPICA was super….ker-ching!
  14. 16:08 I hesitated at the end over ECTYPE wondering if it was ESTYPE (lie Jeremy plumped for) but I thought the C more likely. I also trusted to the wordplay for CENTAURY and MEGOHM. No problem with PARGET as we have plenty of pargetting in Suffolk, the best example, possibly, being the Ancient House in Clare. Like our blogger I was puzzled by the wordplay for FALSE ECONOMY, wondering where the false came from.
  15. Too many unusual words for my liking resulting in constant ‘does it mean that?’ style questions.

    NHO ECTYPE, CENTAURY, PER CONTRA, TOMATILLO, THOMISTS, READE (though did think of the incorrectly spelt Miss Read) and failed to completely parse PERSPICACITY and PRECIPITATED, though in all cases, checkers were generous. On the whole though, felt pretty unsatisfied even though under 30 mins.

  16. I was defeated by this both in the NW and the SE. I didn’t know Parget and went for Target.

    COD: PIT STOPS.

  17. I’m surprised that it’s so low on the snitch. It felt much tougher than 107, what with all those odd words. I’m a technical DNF because I cheated to get parget. Just didn’t see it. Grr. Nigel was the famous Archers Pargeter, who died falling off a roof while emitting the longest scream till then heard on BBC radio. It was around then I stopped listening. Enjoyed working out all the half-remembered words like megohm and centaury. Spacers to me sound more like dope-fiends. And thank God I didn’t put in par contre, the French version, which also obeys the anagram.
  18. 43.00 but a DNF. Never got close to recognising Fielding and put in target for parget which I’ve never heard of. Obviously not on the wavelength today and a few answers I was pleased to see were guessed right- ectype, centuary and megohm .

    Good puzzle so thanks setter.

  19. Not with it today which didn’t help. At times this felt like having teeth pulled but looking back I can see there is a lot to admire, and my many unknowns (Ectype, Tomatillo Parget, Centaury) were all impeccably clued. I dithered over Reade because I could only think of Piers Paul who is still alive.

    Well it’s woken me up anyway.

    Spotters Badge to the Aquinas man. I knew Thomist from Joycean studies long ago

    Thanks to setter and blogger.

  20. The Thomas Aq reference, today. was wasted on me as I had to use an aid to find THOMISTS as well as PARGET which is called RENDER where I come from. Also I put in ECTAPE at 25a with APE for copy after ECT, without knowing what the definition was. So a bit of a dog’s breakfast. The rest was fun, I knew the star, guessed the herb, and handled the Latin. Half an hour to get it wrong.
  21. Couldn’t decide at the time whether this was brilliant or awful: my time and the general SNITCH data suggest nothing out of the ordinary, but I was absolutely riding the limits of my vocabulary for a lot of this, which created a certain feeling of unease. However, on the grounds that there were no pink squares, and the setter can rightly say that everything must have been clearly there in the wordplay, let’s be positive about it.

    I am another who stopped listening to the Archers when they murdered Nigel Pargetter, but at least it helped me work out that, along with the Thatchers and the Fletchers and the Brewsters of this world, there must be people named after the fact that their ancestors went around pargetting.

  22. Though I solved both 1D and 18 correctly, I agree with our blogger about the unnecessary “strangely” in the latter. As to “spacer” for “astronaut”, be honest: have you EVER heard it? I certainly haven’t, and I have zero patience with that kind of obscurity. I threw the towel in as soon as I spotted what I consider that underhand tactic. I’ll be back tomorrow, hoping that Friday’s setter isn’t so inclined to distort the language to breaking point.
    1. I have, but I have read quite a lot of science fiction … put “spacers” into an amazon book search and you will see what I mean
  23. Stacked after 40 mins with only ten answers in. Even looking at solution I can’t see I would ever managed half way.
  24. Happy to get through this unscathed in 23 minutes, helped by precise cluing (bar the unaccountable FALSE ECONOMY) to reach the various unknowns. SPACER will undoubtedly be familiar to all TfT contributors from Shiela B Devotion’s eponymous 80s disco hit.
  25. Not much to add, fell into the same traps as everyone else. I actually gave up on THOMISTS and went my aids only to find no answer. I then realised I’d forgotten the other meaning for fret.
    LOI PARGET. CENTAURY is a tincture that I used to sell as a digestive remedy.
  26. I had PICARD for 1D. Intending to look again then forgot. Thought DICARP could be something to do with “nags”. Ah well, there’s always tomorrow.
  27. 22:40. I’m all for deducing funny words from wordplay (it’s what Mephisto is all about after all) but in a daily puzzle it is possible to have too much of a good thing. However by far my biggest problem was with FIELDING, which i just couldn’t for life of me see until — after several minutes of increasingly frantic alphabet trawling — I suddenly could.
  28. Completely failed today – 21 mins and three wrong, all of which (and some others) were entered without much hope. Lots of vocab and knowledge I don’t have, including SPACER, SPICA, THOMISTS, ECTYPE, TONG, MEGOHM, PARGET… still, one of those where, seeing the answers, I feel I should have got them.

    And I even had COPMENSATION for ages, which didn’t help. Definitely an off day.

  29. Well I’m joining the DNF club and, at least I’m in good company for once. The last four, ECTYPE, THORISTS, HOMINIDS and PARGET, were well above my skill level. Shame, because up til then I was enjoying the challenge. What I did like was today’s French wine, CLARET, carrying on the theme. Rosé from Provence tomorrow anyone? Thanks z for the explanations and hard work on this one.
  30. As many contributors have already mentioned, there were lots of unknowns today- the fancy rendering, megohm ( the quantity of resistance which I’d have expected to be mega-ohm),centaury and ectype. But all gettable with strict observance of my new guiding principle ” if it parses exactly it’s almost certainly correct, even if I’ve never heard of it” and its corollary ” if it doesn’t parse it’s wrong”
    27’11” all green
  31. FIELDING wasn’t sufficiently famous for me. NHO MEGOHM or ECTYPE. Spent too long trying to make an anagram of “sees hint” at 1A, biffed “false account” which then caused me grief at 11/15D, and entered “ice” at the beginning of 16D. Just not for me; more birds, less obscure plants and techy stuff please !

    COD PROMOTION
    TIME 20:10 in vain

  32. Finished in 22:06 but had to resort to widgets to find the NHO CENTAURY and unlock the last couple in the NE corner. A shame as I was pleased to have dug out some of the other mild obscurities. Not a fan of plant names or less than famous dead people but I can see that your mileage may vary. A tough but engaging challenge overall.
  33. Sheesh! Hard going. I managed to work out the many unknowns apart from TOMATILLO, where I had to use a synonym finder to get TILL for DIG. That allowed me to eventually get FIELDING my LOI. That all took me to 63:35, but I failed to notice that my meticulously parsed MEGOHM had gone in as MEGOMM. Drat. Ages and WOE. Thanks setter and Z.
    1. Almost exactly the same experience as me except I threw in the towel at 65 minutes with tomatillo and fielding incomplete. Thrown by the superfluous famous and assumed it ended king and I was looking for a word for famous to add to it. Also had entype though I was 99% certain the treatment was not ent. Just a bit too tough for me today in spite of getting the other unknowns. No complaints though. Thanks setter and blogger.
  34. Well that was hard work. I was surprised the SNITCH was so low when I consulted it after the solve. ECTYPE I have definitely never come across before but the clue was generous enough. The other obscurities were ones which rang extremely faint bells once I had come up with a possibility. I must have spent 3 or 4 minutes on FIELDING which was my LOI.
  35. Failed on PARGET – or rather, PAR, as I managed to get GET

    Thank you, z8b8d8k and the setter

  36. Worked steadily through this with no major holdups; plenty of pargetting hereabouts..
    Lots of complaints about it being hard, but the snitch is only just over 100. I think perhaps it favoured the old guard somewhat, who might be more used to solving clues where the answer is obscure
  37. 28.29. I found this quite tricky and was pleased to finish inside half an hour. Ectype featured in a recent Listener puzzle so that helped. Centaury was unknown but construct-able. Megohm seemed logical. The “what you expect” in the clue persuaded me to go for PARget over TARget. LOI Fielding. I read Tom Jones so a bit of a surprise at how long it took to dredge up the famous author.
  38. Been doing this for 45 years and gradually getting better — most days I get 80% plus so nowhere near any of you I really enjoy The Times Crossword but am dismayed when there are maybe 5-10 words I never heard of. the clues are hard enough without such obscure answers. One or two unknowns OK but in puzzles like this too many and it means just elite players can take part. My pint emphasised by many liking perspicacity which is a reasonably well used word. Grumps over — thank you all for completing this as it enables people like me to progress and appear far cleverer than we actually are, mostly to have fun.
  39. I’ll be a bit more to the point. A pile of time wasting crap for a very small clique of devotees to enjoy.
    1. I’d be quite interested to know what prompted your comment. Some deep personal unhappiness, perhaps?

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