24613

Solving time: 6:28

Another pretty easy puzzle with mild bits of general knowledge required if you want to get to the end quickly. I wrote in 1, 12, 15, and 28 without working out the complete (or in one case, correct) wordplay, just seeing the answer from def. and checking letters.

Across
1 SHIP CANAL = “way for sailors” – (chaplain’s)*
6 BURNS = poet – Blake’s The Tyger starts with the line “Tyger tyger, burning bright”
9 GO=move,A = back from hyenA, uNlEaShEd – Goa, a former Portuguese territory, is the smallest state in India.
10 OARSMEN = (San Remo)* – San Remo being on the coast adds a bit to the surface meaning
11 A,S,PERUS(U)AL
12 (s)TILL – when solving, I thought there must be some way I couldn’t think of by which the informal till=until could be interpreted as “not starting yet”. This felt more and more like a bit of nonsense drifting in from some inferior cryptic crossword until I thought of still=yet.
14 TITAN – 2 defs – the largest moon of Saturn and a rocket (or family of rockets, it turns out). It seems that Titan the moon is also known as “Saturn VI” – whether there is a connection between this and the use of Titan rockets for some unmanned missions when the Saturn V was no longer available, I don’t know.
15 CATCH=snag,ME=writer,NT=National Trust=conservationists – “catchment” as in the catchment area of a river, is “collecting water”
16 DO A RUNNER = bolt – (near round)* – the Times rule about living people means that we’ll have to wait a long time for the “Bolt = runner” which the content of this clue/answer gets quite close to
18 THOR=god,N=name
20 (t)RUTH – truth being “non-fiction”, and Ruth an Old Testament book
21 DOUBLE FLAT – 2 defs, one whimsical. Although it is theoretically possible for music to have a key like F flat, the key signature of which would include a B double flat, I can’t think of a real-life example (F flat being the same as E). My understanding is that double flats are used as accidentals in situations where the accidental is more naturally thought of as a flattening of a note already flattened than sharpening the next note down in the scale – so a B flat in a passage in C would become B double flat if the passage was repeated a semitone lower and written in C flat rather than B natural.
25 ON PAPER – 2 defs – if you work on a paper=newspaper, then you work daily – though arguably no more so than anyone working on anything else, except for the paper being called a “daily” ON=working, DAILY = paper – as keriothe and jimbo point out below
26 DE(TENT)E – in “cold war” terms, an warming of relations between two former opponents is a thaw. The “running water” is the River Dee.
27 e.g. = say,Y=”yes initially”,P.T. = exercise – beginners: make a mental note to try both P.E. and P.T. for “exercise” or similar if you don’t get the answer from the def
28 ERRONEOUS = wrong – RONEO = dulicate (verb), in reversal of SURE = confident
 
Down
1 SIGMA – Greek version of the letter S found at the beginning of ‘species’
2 IN A SPOT = (a piston)* – the anagram indicator is just “worked” (not “worked up”), leaving “up against it” as the def
3 CHEE(k),RING UP = to call
4 NEE=born,P(eeble)S – neeps are turnips in Scotland, often accompanied by tatties=potatoes
5 LOOK = gander (from criminals’ slang apparently, but not rhyming slang),AFTER = “with name of”, as in “called after”
6 B(oulogne),ARK=one vessel – bark = ship = another (vessel)
7 RO(MAIN)E – “romaine” is the US name for the crossword setter’s favourite lettuce – cos.
8 SING = give information, LET ON = reveal – “person not married or in a relationship” is one meaning of “singleton” and as pointed out below, “lonely heart” could also mean a singleton heart in a card player’s hand
13 CHATTER=gossip,TON=rev. of not – Chatterton has to be a “Young poet” as he died before his 18th birthday
14 TUDOR ROSE = (out orders)*
15 C(ollege),ON COURSE = studying
17 Today’s omission – a very old chestnut indeed!
19 ORLANDO – 2 defs – Orlando Gibbons the composer and a city in Florida, home of the Walt Disney World theme park. Did anyone else wonder whether Florida had a town or city called Stanley?
22 BADE=ordered,R=resistance – here’s the double amputee hero for anyone too young to know about him
23 TIERS – 2 defs, one being “people or things that tie”
24 SPAT – Taps being a bugle call signalling “lights out” in the US military, with a very similar practical purpose and the same commemorative use as our Last Post

51 comments on “24613”

  1. 16 minutes, slowed by GOANESE where I realised (in the end) the clue structure took some unravelling.
    On ORLANDO, I did think of Grinling, though it didn’t fit, and wondered whether Florida had an Edward somewhere, though that didn’t fit either. That was after I’d exhausted (very quickly) my knowledge of the ape species.
    Otherwise, a pleasant workout. CoD to SIGMA, a simple but elegant clue
  2. I agree – a pretty straightforward one today (14 mins for me) – I rather liked 1d and 17d.
  3. Let me be the first to suggest that 20 could just as easily be ACTS bar the first checker – a fact which I was so sure of that I spent 5 or 6 minutes looking at 14D and wondering what word went T_D_A ?

    Other than that it was a fairly quick affair, although I wasnt utterly confident about BARK, TIERS or SPAT but they seemed like they “ought to” work. Didn’t even notice that I had no idea what RONEO meant

    1. Before the days of photocopying multiple copies of a typed document were produced from a typed inked skin placed on a revolving cylinder. The most popular make of such machines was Roneo and so rather like “Hoover” coming to mean vacuum so Roneo came to mean the reproduction process itself.
    2. Me too! Also held up by GOANESE, as I couldn’t quite put together the wordplay, and was mystified at first by 1D (which turned out to be a fairly old chestnut, although not as old as 17). Got there in the end in 16:08.
  4. 25 minutes here but again I tripped up at the finish line. Couldn’t fathom 9 at all and put in GHANESE, being the only word I could think of that fitted. OneLook turned up a surprising number of words that fit the G?A?E?E pattern. Liked NEEPS and AUTOPSY in particular. We’ve seen RUTH and ERRONEOUS very recently.

    Off at a tangent…

    I’m working my way through puzzlebook 14 (2006 cryptics) and am baffled by the answer to 19A in puzzle 40 which I hope somebody can explain:

    They say a widow’s offering is not unlikely to (5)

    The answer is MIGHT which I can see means “not unlikely to.” Is this a homphone clue indicated by “They say”?

    1. Homophone of ‘mite’ (New Testament, an offering made by a poor woman in the temple, supposedly more precious than the rich man’s gold).
      1. … don’t forget to try the index for my reports on these puzzles. They’re from the early days of this blog when I wrote all the entries myself (and took Saturdays off), but in this case I managed to anticipate the potential question about the clue.

        As long as Richard Browne is still happy to provide me with lists of the original puzzle numbers, similar indexes for future Times daily and Jumbo books will be created when the books appear and will be added to this page.

        1. Peter,

          Many thanks for the link to the index and the onwards links to your write ups. I’ll enjoy seeing how my experiences with each puzzle compare to yours.

          I’ve solved four of the first 41 puzzles (16, 33, 35, 40) 100% correct without aids. After the event they all struck me as straightforward and I wasn’t surprised to see your times were between 5 and 7 minutes.

          The one I’ve found hardest so far (no. 30/23282) turns out, as I thought, to be a Saturday puzzle.

  5. Different clues but in many ways the same puzzle as yesterday with some elements of general knowledge mixed in with some very easy constructions. 15 leisurely minutes.

    Like Keriothe I had 25A as working=ON, daily perhaps=PAPER and was pleased by the “perhaps”. Didn’t know the poet (solved from wordplay) or the composer (solved from checkers) – why are setters so obsessed by these obscure folk?

    Last Sunday’s Mephisto has still not appeared on the Crossword Club site.

    1. If you have the right musical background, Orlando Gibbons is far from obscure – the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould claimed that Gibbons was his favourite composer. As a fan of music rather than literature, I must admit I’m hazier about why Chatterton’s name should live on.
  6. Held up a little by the feeling 12 should be Toil. A reminder of the presence in every puzzle of the setter of traps. 19 minutes. Good to see Chatterton remembered; but he aint on p.30 of my Times. Actually I don’t know any of his poetry, only that Wordsworth called him a marvellous boy, for what he wrote at the age of 17.
  7. Another 40 minute solve with most of the LH going in smoothly but a number of problems on the other side, in particular
    in the SE corner.

    24dn went in quite late because although the answer had to be SPAT I couldn’t justify it until I recalled seeing a film about the US military called TAPS and remembered this is the name of a bugle call, the equivalent (at one time) of Last Post in the British army.

    The corresponding 4-letter word in the NE also took time and my caution at writing in my first thought BURN was justified by eventually coming up with BARK as a better solution.

    The unknown poet at 13dn held up progress in the SE and resulted in a very slow finish.

    I understand “Tyger” is the original spelling used in Blake’s poem but it was spelt with an ‘I’ in whichever anthology we used at school when I first met it and I wasn’t aware of any other possibility.

  8. A fairly straightforward puzzle, although significantly more difficult than yesterday’s for me. 25 minutes, the last 5 spent trying to understand the wordplay for GOANESE. The AFTER in 5dn puzzled me for a while too.
    A smattering of interesting new titbits (Orlando Gibbons, taps, roneo) kept the interest level up.
    I thought 25 across was on = working, paper = daily rather than a DD.
  9. Can’t say these are easy, but I’m glad I can complete them at all, though my time was too long to be worth mentioning. At first thought 27 might be SYRIA, but couldn’t quite justify AIR backwards for “exercise”. And 14 down was slow because I misread the word lengths as (4,5) rather than (5,4). Being American, I wouldn’t have known BADER if he hadn’t appeared in another puzzle I solved recently, but on the other hand SPAT and TAPS were easy after I found EGYPT. Filled in many clues from the crossing letters and worked out the wordplay afterwards, sometimes quite slowly, and didn’t see it at all for SINGLETON, convincing myself that playing a singleton might be “giving information” in bridge.
  10. Might have slipped under the half hour mark had I not enumerated 8dn wrongly, clocking in finally at 33 minutes. Found the NE corner the most resistant, flirting, like Jack, with ‘burn’ at 6dn and having to get 7dn from the wordplay, as my knowledge of lettuce doesn’t extend far beyond cos and iceberg – although, upon Googling, I ought to know romaine away, as I enjoy the occasional Caesar salad. The poet-cum-forger was new to me. Last in GOANESE, for which I couldn’t see the full workings till coming here, and over the use of which, in place of ‘Goan’, there is some controversy. (Wikipedia comes down on the side of Goan.)

    COD to TUDOR ROSE for bringing back memories of Sunday lunch in Virginia Water.

    1. I think double flats are a bit of a necessity in G-flat major. There are lots in Schubert’s Impromptu Op.90 No. 3 for instance.
    2. Your link above made for quite interesting reading. Apart from the offensive slant some fairly good points were made about GOANESE being spelt incorrectly anyhow. That is to say that you were going to use the -ESE suffix it would be GOESE anyway.

      Clearly it has been used in written word enough times for it to exist, but where should a crossword draw the line with popular corruptions or mis-spellings. I vaguely recall clues pointing to slang words such as PINTA or CUPPA but these would have been clearly signposted as slang or vernacular. At what point does a common corruption such as BRUVVAZ for instance, enter the dictionary or the crossword ?

  11. I got 1ac from the definition but took ages trying to figure why SHIPC meant “chaplain”, assuming the rest was clued by “up the creek”
  12. I found it fairly easy but took longer than yesterday (25 minutes). I should have got 1dn far earlier than I did, and 9 was my last entry, seen only when I had the G from SIGMA. For most of the solving time I misparsed 9ac as: synonym for MOVE, reversed after HYENA with alternate letters removed (“unleashed”).

    19 came reasonably early. I associate GIBBONS with only 3 names – Stanley, Stella and Orlando.

  13. I seem to have found this more difficult than most, at just over an hour, with 21ac wrong (went for DOUBLE PLOT!)

    Ones I didn’t understand today were 7d and 23d…

  14. After my mini-high of yesterday, this was more of a challenge. About 30 mins.

    COD to SIGMA. Incredibly, and again within a day or two, last in RUTH!!

  15. 13.12 Quite a bit slower today although didn’t have any particular hitch , other than having a line drawn on 14d to look for a 4,5 answer – so that was last in.
    I liked the SIGMA clue.
    Found a sufficient challenge in a majority of the clues to prevent this being an easy solve for me. I read the lonely heart as a clever bridge reference. No problem in seeing CHATTERTON. I know as much about him (English Poet died young) as I do about TITAN (moon of one of the planets) so both equally obscure/clear (take your pick) as far as I am concerned
  16. Just a beginner here. Though I could get OARSMEN from the clue, I would have thought there needed to be an anagram indicator to indicate reordering SAN REMO. I am sure I am missing something as everyone else here thinks it is life as usual. Thanks ahead for shining a light on it and enlightening me a bit.
      1. @joekobi: Thx. Did not know “from” could serve as ana. indicator. Live and learn.
  17. Well I’ve been lurking for a while and always enjoy the blog – thanks to all contributors – but have only posted the odd comment anonymously until now.

    I was moved to post by the trouble I had with 23dn, where I found myself torn between two plausible answers, neither of which turned out to be correct.

    After first reading of clues I tentatively wrote in ‘Scrum’ thinking it was a cryptic def. (front row, second row, back row, all of whom must ‘bind down’ so could be thought of as binders). Then when I got 28ac and realised it must end in S, I changed my answer to FILES, now reading the clue as a double def, which I was now 100% confident about.

    It struck me as very unusual to find two ‘wrong’ answers, both of which (in my view) seemed to fit the clue 100% – was really just wondering if anyone else had a similar experience.

    As you can imagine this played havoc with my SE corner on an otherwise relatively simple puzzle. With 21ac now finishing in F, I was particularly proud of myself for inventing the answer “double gaff”. This not only seemed to fit gaff=variant of gaffe(something accidental) and also gaff=where one lives (accommodation), but also sums up my solving efforts today rather nicely.

    1. Welcome, and bad luck with the pair of red herrings. I can’t think of anything quite that bad, but don’t remember many of my wrong answers. Double and cryptic defs are the most likely clue types for this kind of trouble – similar coincidences with “construction kit” wordplay are much less common.
  18. RONEO was new to me, too. Had to check this blog for Goanese as it was the only one I wasn’t able to solve. Enjoyable puzzle all around though.
  19. SPAT was last in because I have never heard that meaning of “taps”.

    A double flat in music would be used in a key like D-flat major for a flattened degree in the scale – you would not write the flattened sixth in this key as A natural, for example, but as B double flat, even though it is the same note on a piano. This is called an enharmonic spelling.

  20. I thought a double flat referred to an accidental situation whereby a driver sustains two flat tyres at once
  21. 11 minutes, but an interesting one, as there were a lot that went in from definition alone – GOANESE, ROMAINE, ORLANDO (knew the city) and then a few from wordplay – CHATTERTON, NEEPS, BARK (hoping it wasn’t BURN).
  22. Sorry for the late entry, workday interference. About 15 minutes, last entry: BARK. Only problems: didn’t know ‘roneo’, and had to rely on wordplay for CHATTERTON. Now that I hear ROMAINE is US centric, thanks to the setter for tossing that one to us Amerks, and the ‘Taps’ reference as well, if that falls into the same category. COD to SINGLETON which I read as the bridge holding. Regards to all.
  23. Ditto to Kevin’s remarks except it took me twice as long. maybe more as I watch
    baseball while doing them. The chap who supplies my eyewear is from Goa. He says he’s Goan.
    Some hackles raised here…..

    http://www.colaco.net/1/GoaNiz.htm

    Back to baseball…and to download today’s, Thursday’s.

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