Times 26,045: Womble Rampage

Well, this broke my run of ~12 minute Friday solves in fine style: in the end I squeaked in just seconds before the 25 mark. I thought this was a doozy of a puzzle; just looking over the grid the morning after, I see Roman kings, Greek tyrants and Russian poets rubbing shoulders with exotic locales far to the east and west, a bit of science, a bit of sport, some words lofty and others frankly silly. Like a really satisfying pub quiz workout, in other words.

My FOI was that old chestnut 19D and my LOI, which I struggled with for a long time for no apparent reason was 9A – I’d thought of HAZY and ATTIC independently ages before but hadn’t realised I was looking for a soundalike. Talking of which clue, it was nice to see our old friends the Cockney aitch-dropper and the dear old Reverend once more, in close proximity to each other even, and I expect 12A qualifies as my COD.

Unfortunately it took me another half an hour after I went to bed to full parse 3D, having fixated on finding a word for “put under pressure” which would become INTERAL with “a friend taken out” – INTERAPALL perhaps? And I’m afraid I’m going to have to throw in the towel with 11A and open it to the floor, as I just can’t satisfactorily explain to myself how it works. Brilliant crossword overall though any way you cut it, many thanks setter!

Across
1 LIVE IN CLOVER – want for nothing: C [cold] in LIVE-IN LOVER [cohabitee]
8 OUTPOST – double def: remote camp, and (one who) “might be better at forum”, i.e. who might out-post others there
9 ASIATIC – in Far East: homophone [“could be understood”] of ‘AZY ATTIC [“Cockney’s unclear Greek dialect”]
11 TRIMMER – docker (i.e. one who docks): TAMER [“more manageable”] “loading” RIM [limit] for, i.e. instead of, A
12 SPOONER – preacher: “Fervour of pseud” is a Spoonerism for “server of food”, i.e. one who spoons
13 DOMED – “description of cathedral maybe”: DOOMED [done for] minus O [nothing “less”]
14 LERMONTOV – Russian writer: (ROLE ON TV*) [“unusual”] “holding” M [Mass]
16 KING PRAWN – seafood: KIN GP RAN [family | doctor | was quick] “to confiscate” W [wife]
19 CREON – old Theban ruler: C RE ON [about “to appear in three different forms”]
21 TARQUIN – Roman emperor: TAR QUIN [seafarer, “one of several born”]
23 FREDDIE – chap: F RED DIE [fine | wine | to give out]
24 NEARISH – “close, rather”: (A SHRINE*) [“unexpectedly”]
25 NOVELLA – short work: ALL {d}EVON [entire | county “after opener’s gone”] “back”
26 YELLOW JERSEY – “presented to leader on time” (in the Tour de France): YELLOW [chicken] + JERSEY [beef supplier]

Down
1 LITHIUM – metal: LIT. [works] + I [one] “visits” HUM [are very busy]
2 VROOMED – moved speedily: V [very “small”] + ROOMED [shared accommodation]
3 INTER ALIA – amongst other things: INTER [put under (the ground)] + {p}AL [pressure (P) “abandoning” friend] + A1 [cracking “up”]
4 CHAOS – mess: CHA [leaves to drink] + O.S. [seaman]
5 ORINOCO – “one following course in Latin parts”, i.e. a South American river: OR IN O CO [men | in | old | firm]
6 EXTINCT – vanished: {t}EXTIN{g} [“the middle of” sending message] + CT [court]
7 SOUTH DAKOTAN – American: (THANKS TO A DUO*) [“rock”]
10 CARAVANSERAI – (caravan’s) stop: CARAVAN’S [train’s] on ERA I [time, one]
15 RING-FENCE – to keep for a purpose: RING [telephone] + FENCE [receiver]
17 NARRATE – recount: RAN [organised] “when up” + RATE [judge]
18 PLUVIAL – of “water that’s fallen”, i.e. rain: PLU{g} [“cut” cork] on VIAL [bottle]
19 CLEAVES – double def: splits / sticks
20 ENDPLAY – tactic in bridge: END P [object | quietly] + LAY [unprofessional]
22 NOHOW – not at all “the American way”: NOH [drama] + OW [pained expression]

41 comments on “Times 26,045: Womble Rampage”

  1. verlaine – it’s RIM as in LIMIT loaded instead of the A in TAMER as in more manageable. good puzzle. 22.54. p.s. live journal very slow to load this morning.

    Edited at 2015-03-13 08:50 am (UTC)

    1. Doh! I thought of “RIM? in TMER?” and I thought of “TAMER” for “more manageable” at a separate juncture, but never put them together. Our house is completely down with the dreaded lurgi at the moment, that’ll have to be my excuse…
  2. Yes, a terrific puzzle to end the week on, with the Reverend fighting it out with the one following a course in Latin parts for COD.

    Thanks to setter and M. V, as well as Olivia for the parsing of the one that had me stumped. 41 minutes, which may be good enough…

  3. Probably around half an hour but I knew the Russian writer was one who had passed me by, and I couldn’t decide between Lermontov and Lormontev, so looked him up. I’m glad I did. Interesting fellow whose demise was a poor advert for fair play — he let it be known ahead of a duel that he intended firing into the air; his opponent promptly shot him in the heart (though it does sound as though Lermontov was rather asking for it). I’m not going to beat myself up for not knowing him since even Nabokov, who translated him, wrote “his hackneyed epithets are only redeemed by occasionally being incorrectly used”.

    Some brilliant clues again. Agree with ulaca that ORINOCO and SPOONER stand out.

  4. 27m, and I enjoyed all 27 of them. An absolute doozy as Verlaine says. Thank you setter.
  5. A most enjoyable wrangle which took an unfeasibly long time – and even then I ended up missing the Rev because I’d somehow convinced myself 6d was ENTREAT (no, I couldn’t parse it…!) Silly, very silly.

    Don’t know if C RE ON is a chestnut to the old hands, but I thought it was pretty damn good. Thanks for the top notch blog.

  6. An enjoyable puzzle. I was looking for a pangram from quite early on (with Q, X, V and K popping up) but it was not to be (no Z at least). Thank you setter and verlaine
  7. For the first time ever I needed aids to get started on a puzzle. Bad form,I know, but after 10 minutes of unfocussed scrambling around the grid desperately trying to get a foothold I felt I owed it to myself to get something in at all costs and try to build from there.

    The clue chosen for cheating was the Russian writer as he was obviously an anagram, and so it turned out, but since I’m half Russian by descent I don’t know quite how I’ve managed to reach my advancing years without ever hearing of this guy before.

    After that, progress was reasonably steady but I needed aids again for CREON who I wasn’t so surprised I didn’t know, the only Theban ruler I’ve come across being Cadmus because he features in Semele, a Handel oratorio that I happen to know well.

    I guessed YELLOW JERSEY was something to do with sport but had no idea what or why.

    12ac is either very clever or unfair and I can’t decide which though I’m inclined to the latter as it took me forever to work it out after I’d already become jaded by my solving experience. After this week we are owed an easy one on Saturday, I think.

    Edited at 2015-03-13 09:35 am (UTC)

    1. Totally agree about Lermontov, a fascinating life that was worth the price of admission to this crossword on its own. Died aged 26, which may possibly make him an early contender for admission to the Cobain-Hendrix-Joplin-etc doomed rockstar club…
      1. I think that makes him a year too young for the unfortunate club (didn’t they all die at 27?).
  8. Tremendous puzzle, not all of which was fully understood at time of solving, so thanks due to both setter and blogger. Happily, as far as required knowledge went, it chimed perfectly with my own, (i.e. lots of classical stuff and a bit of Russian); and the wordplay was very original – I thought I’d seen every possible variant on the Rev. S., but clearly not.
  9. 27 mins. I agree that this was a cracker, although I confess that I biffed LITHIUM and didn’t try to parse it. My time would have been a bit quicker if I hadn’t taken way too long to see CHAOS, after which ASIATIC and SPOONER were my last two in. CREON went in from the wordplay once I got CARAVANSERAI (the momble “Creca” also worked), TARQUIN was only vaguely remembered but the wordplay certainly helped, and I was glad I’d heard of LERMONTOV.
  10. After about 70 mins or so, I still had a blank at 18dn. Irritating, really, as I had though of ‘plug’, but hadn’t twigged to cut it.

    Many others went in unparsed, so thanks for unravelling TARQUIN, ORINOCO, CARAVANSERAI, and thanks to Olivia for TRIMMER.

    The Russian chap’s letters went in the right order for once, phew.

  11. I did spend a brief moment afterwards wondering if Tarquin really counted as an “emperor” (I think the Tarquins were possibly earlier than Rome’s imperial phase?) but it could be that only a classicist would even try to split these hairs…
  12. Great puzzle, best for a while, had me puzzled for about an hour and two coffees in total, and then all were correct but some not completely understood, so well blogged Verlaine; the rest has been said above.
    1. Someone after my own classical heart! Wikipedia has this to say about pre-Augustan imperatores though:

      Imperatores in the ancient Roman Kingdom

      When Rome was ruled by kings,[1] to be able to rule, the king had to be invested with the full regal authority and power. So, after the comitia curiata, held to elect the king, the king also had to be conferred the imperium.[2]

      So maybe it’s kosher?

      1. A nice defence of an excellent setter 🙂 but – sadly – no.

        You can translate “emperor” as “imperator”, but only in the Imperial period. Otherwise you could call any consul, proconsul, praetor, etc. an ‘Emperor’ – and there were thousands of them!

        Brilliant crossword, tiny mistake 🙁

      2. I’m with Anonymous. And the clue could so easily have been “Seafarer, one of several born to be a Roman king (7)”!
  13. 18.20 for me, which makes up for my turgid time yesterday. It probably helps that I spent no time to speak of trying to break TRIMMER apart, content with it being a straight double definition – a trimmer craft surely has to be “more manageable” and a docker trims – with a bit of detritus in between. So I fear the setter’s ingenuity was quite lost on me – it’s jolly clever as elucidated by Olivia.
    Not lost was the brilliant variation on a Spooner clue, though it took me a while to suss the audible nature of the swap. I did wonder for a while what feuds had to do with it and what pservour might be.
    I did parse LITHIUM – I think we’ve had LIT for works quite recently and it’s stuck. Has “one following a course” occurred before in the range of expressions for river? can’t recall it, and what a fine and devious clue it ornamented.
    Good crossword in a week of good ones. And thanks, yes, I feel better now than I did yesterday.
  14. Not so much trouble with this one as some others.

    Off to a flying start with 1A and 7D going straight in so that LHS fell easily. Then 26A was a write-in as was 15D so SE corner went in. That left NE corner where I looked up the Russian and the Theban (never heard of either of them) and then took a while to see both 9A and 12A. 10D was last in.

    Not really my cup of tea – too much obscure rather dated GK for my taste

    1. Sorry to hear that! There was at least balance between the old-school GK and references to “texting” and posting in forums… something old, something new, something borrowed, dorsetjimbo blue?
  15. Defeated for at least the third time this week (not even sure I’ve finished one), being unable to get the ending of CARAVANSERAI and plumping for LORMONTEV.

    Another good offering with my COD going to YELLOW JERSEY.

  16. It is apparently my day for knowing obscure stuff in crosswords. Just over 12 mins. Anyone else wish the Reverend Spooner had never been?
  17. An excellent puzzle which tested me for the best part of 37 mins. My general direction was anti-clockwise ending with LOI being EXTINCT. A very broad GK base with a classical bent is my strength which helped a great deal today. I found identifying the definitions tricky and have to admit to biffingTRIMMER.
  18. 43m all correct and but for the SW corner I was heading for a sub 30, but 24 and 21 a with 18d took 14m to wrestle into submission. But this was one where the obscurities were in my GK so it was a pleasure to solve. I BIFD quite a few such as the Latin phrase and TRIMMER so thanks for the entertaining blog.
  19. A tough one for me but got through in 45 minutes, ending with CARAVANSERAI, which I had thought ended with ‘Y’. Some real obscure stuff today, i.e. TARQUIN, the Russian, the Theban and the RING FENCE. Thanks to Verlaine for explaining much that I hadn’t realized, like the YELLOW JERSEY’s connection to ‘leader on time’. Regards.

    Edited at 2015-03-13 07:50 pm (UTC)

  20. Thanks, Verlaine, especially for your explanation of 8ac, 11ac, 12ac, 3d, 9ac and 1d. I solved all correctly but without fully understanding them. And thanks to Olivia for her explanation of TRIMMER. Terrific puzzle. My favourite was 10d. True Solving Time: 1hr 30mins 0sec in two sessions with a break for Pointless and the France24 Debate.

    Edited at 2015-03-13 08:44 pm (UTC)

  21. All correct (eventually) without aids, though I initially thought that Lermontov had a second ‘e’ in the middle rather than the ‘o’. Checking the anagrist sorted that out.
    I had to tackle this puzzle in more than one session, so timing wasn’t practical, but my time certainly was not quick, and I was another who failed to parse ‘trimmer’.
    While solving, I had the distinct sensation of indignation brewing in the South West (despite the appearance of ‘Lithium’).
  22. 20:27 for me, taking an age to get anywhere near the setter’s wavelength.

    I join others in thanking Olivia for her explanation of TRIMMER. I’d assumed that “more manageable” (like a trim ship!?) and docker were both definitions, and wondered if “loading limit” could be a third definition that I was ignorant of.

    No problems with LERMONTOV, who has in any case come up previously in No. 23,489 (4 Jan. 2007): “Russian writer after fifty no longer lovelorn, turned to verse (9)”. Perhaps one day they’ll clue him as the impresario in The Red Shoes.

    Having boggled a little over “server of feud”, I’m still not wholly convinced of 12ac – a delightful idea which IMO doesn’t quite come off. Apart from that I found this a most interesting and enjoyable puzzle.

    1. Tony, I’m interested to know how you feel 12a comes up short.

      Isn’t a Spoonerism necessarily phonological, rather than orthographic? In which case, I would suggest it isn’t “a server of feud” but “a sever of food”. I would alsoventure that the quotation marks indicate that we’re in the realm of the spoken, not the written. Thoughts?

      1. It all depends how you pronounce “pseud”: for me it rhymes with “feud” rather than “food”. (I suppose “sever of food” has to be more likely than “Sever of food”, given my ignorance of foodie matters 🙂
        1. I think it’s pretty safe to imagine that “pseud” gets pronounced both ways. Of course, given the earlier classical kerfuffle over the titles of Tarquin, now I’m pondering how Creon of Thebes would have pronounced it. And whether there was a Theon of Crebes…
  23. Difficult but fun and satisfying to have finished in (for me) an acceptable time. Loved SPOONER, ORINOCO, TRIMMER and LITHIUM among others. I’m being picky, but a JERSEY cow is much better known for being a milk rather than a beef producer.
    Thanks to setter and blogger.
  24. Ok not the worst clue I’ve seen but … (grr) tarquin was not an emporer. He was a pre republic KING.

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