Quick Crossword 574 by Orpheus

An enjoyable crossword and clear clues. Nougettes sounded like a possibility for 11a – misled into thinking nutty was an anagram indicator, and yes, I know, that still doesn’t work! – but everything else went in smoothly. 21a was a clever hidden clue, and 10d my COD because it wasn’t the sort of plant I thought at first. And I wonder if Orpheus takes his/her dog for a caper on the beach as in 19a!
Thank you to Orpheus.

Across
1 Significance adult males observed in witty saying: MOMENT
Adult males = MEN, inside witty saying = MOT[Definition as in of great significance/moment]
4 Evaluate last of loads carried by beasts of burden: ASSESS
Last of loadS = S, inside beasts of burden = ASSES
9 Trick a girl into reforming a group of stars: CONSTELLATION
Trick = CON, a girl = STELLA, anagram (reforming) of INTO
10 Sound made by farm animal over in Missouri: MOO
Over = O, Missouri = MO
11 Memos about one group’s nutty chocolates: NOISETTES
Memos = NOTES, about one = I, group = SET
12 Habit shopkeepers get from shoppers?: CUSTOM
Double definition, one cryptic
13 Popular team serving a sentence: INSIDE
Popular = IN, team = SIDE
16 Scottish city in French writer’s works at last: INVERNESS
In = IN, French writer’s = VERNES, workS at last =S
18 Rejected gratuity is mine: PIT
Gratuity = TIP, then reversed (rejected)
19 Shingle disturbed by crossword compiler’s dog: ENGLISH SETTER
Anagram (disturbed) of SHINGLE, crossword compiler = SETTER
21 Part of dinghy on Derwent over there: YONDER
Hidden clue
22 Strange lad’s starting-price perhaps: ODDS-ON
Strange = ODD, lad = SON

Down
1 Scotsman originally married at Crianlarich: MAC
First letters (originally) of the three following words
2 Chap departs to get fruit: MANGOES
Chap = MAN, departs = GOES
3 Like another writer’s autobiography? No way!: NOT ON YOUR LIFE
Double definition, one cryptic
5 So keen, she had a broadcast to signal disapproval: SHAKE ONE’S HEAD
Anagram (broadcast) of SO KEEN SHE HAD A
6 One of two writers sending material up: ELIOT
TS or George, reversal (sending up) of material = TOILE
7 Ageing former nurse the last to use perfume: SENESCENT
Former nurse = SEN, last to usE = E, perfume = SCENT
8 Unattractive region without trees: PLAIN
Double definition
10 Plant a girl found around Dorset ravine: MACHINERY
A girl = MARY, around Dorset ravine = CHINE
14 Drive MEP about in new suit: IMPETUS
Anagram (about) of MEP, within anagram (new) of SUIT
15 Fuel for lamps satisfied husband and son: METHS
Satisfied = MET, husband = H, son =S
17 Shunner of animal products, say, in light goods vehicle: VEGAN
Say = EG, in light goods vehicle = VAN
20 Manage to upset old rail union: RUN
Rail union = NUR, reversed (upset)

23 comments on “Quick Crossword 574 by Orpheus”

  1. Whilst I completed this just about from top to bottom, normally a sign of one on the easier side, there was a fair amount of puffing and panting. LOI METHS and COD 10d, I didn’t know they had chines in Dorset thought they were only on the IOW. Some not so common words MOT,NOISETTE, SENESCENT, a right good test, so hats off to Orpheus and blogger for a nice clear blog
  2. Emma you have a typo at 6d, TOILE for ELIOT.

    Fairly straightforward. I just scraped my 10 minute target for the fourth time this week having missed it yesterday.

    3dn may seem a bit unusual as sayings with “your” in them are quite rare in Times crosswords. More often than not “your” and “one’s” might be substituted in speech but “one’s” is what’s needed in the answer (e.g. 5dn). But 3dn only works with “your”, in normal usage anyway.

    I also wondered about Dorset in 10dn, but Collins says it’s southern English dialect, and Dorset’s in southern England so it has to be okay.

    Edited at 2016-05-20 06:44 am (UTC)

  3. I had to take a couple of these on faith, like CHINE in 10d and METHS. Liked SENESCENT. 5:23.
  4. Nice puzzle today, and helpful blog. 3d wouldn’t work if it were ‘one’s’, despite the convention. 6d is exactly right. As in above, only ever heard of ‘chine’ in IOW, indeed was there recently walking the coastal path, much riven by chines. 7’20” today.
  5. Sadly, a DNF at this end. I’ve never come across chine, so gave up trying to think of a garden plant mac*i*ery. Obvious looking at it now! Similarly, toile was unknown so didn’t think of Eliot. Invariant
  6. This was a mixture of what seemed very easy clues (especially the three letter answers) and some tough stuff.
    I sighed when I saw the dreaded plant word and my last two were 12a and 10d. I thought Mary was probably the girl and then went through my very short list of plants (not having Custom first was a hindrance). But then the accountant’s view of the world kicked in as I tried to get away from Durdle Door and Lulworth Cove: Machinery including a Chine -very clever of the setter.
    As a boy I lived In Poole and we went often to Bournmeouth which has chines ;Alum Chine and Branksome Chine for example. Of course Bournemouth was not always in Dorset unless the Hampshire county cricket team got lost many years ago. David
  7. Mostly straightforward with a few tricky ones. Failed to get ELIOT. Eventually got MACHINERY and SENESCENT without fully understanding why. Pardon my ignorance, can anybody explain why SEN denotes former nurse?
  8. Never heard of SEN or “chine”. Didn’t get MACHINERY, CUSTOM, or ELIOT before patience ran out.
  9. Eliot defeated me too. I eventually got senescent having been sidetracked by SRN instead of SEN for some while. Presumably former nurses were SENs and current ones are SRNs?
    1. SEN was a lower qualification than SRN. Both are now obsolete hence the ‘former’. SEN in particular is very handy for setters so they have loath to give it up so it is one to file away.
      RR
      1. As a teacher, SEN stands for Special Educational Needs. Maybe the setters could find a variety of questionable expressions for that which they could use to be represented by SEN.
  10. Enjoyable struggle to come in around the 40 minute mark. Not helped by carelessly putting in TIP instead of PIT for 18a. Bournemouth has some chines I believe though most of us in the central south will have heard of Blackgang chine on the IoW as others have mentioned. Had to dictionary check Senescent but I allow myself some leeway to avoid a DNF when I think I know the word but can’t be sure!
  11. This was pretty straightforward but just couldn’t fathom 6d Eliot. Now looks so obvious…. Still, spent a good and fun hour over a couple of sessions to shipwreck on 6d. So frustrating to have a DNF on a Friday! Otherwise some very enjoyable moments so thanks to Orpheus and our Blogger.
  12. There were some tough clues in here today, particularly 6, 7 (lucky guess for letters 2 and 4) and 10d none of which I fully parsed. Eventually it took me three sittings to complete and I lost track of the time.
  13. DNF because of 6d, never heard of TOILE. Not happy with SEN, if an abbreviation is no longer in use, then setters need to find something else.

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