Times Cryptic 27566

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Solving time: 28 minutes. I found most of this quite straightforward. There were a couple of less than familar words in the Down answers but they were easily assembled from wordplay, and a plant at 27ac that turned out to be an alternative spelling to the one I was aware of.

As usual definitions are underlined in bold italics, {deletions and substitutions are in curly brackets} and [anagrinds, containment, reversal and other indicators in square ones]. I usually omit all reference to positional indicators unless there is a specific point that requires clarification.

Across
1 Bouncing in might try those of a certain age (15)
THIRTYSOMETHING : Anagram [bouncing] of IN MIGHT TRY THOSE
9 Ignore inspector’s gaze (9)
DISREGARD : DI’S (detective inspector’s), REGARD (gaze)
10 Crisis involving attorney outside music academy (5)
DRAMA : DA (district attorney) containing [outside] RAM (music academy – Royal Academy of Music). There’s a well-known saying about not making a drama out of a crisis which suggests that the two don’t need to be synonymous, so perhaps a question mark might have been in order here?
11 Cook too much, party having finished earlier (6)
OVERDO : OVER (finished),  DO (party)
12 Sacked party leader, sick and advanced in years (8)
PILLAGED : P{arty} [leader], ILL (sick), AGED (advanced in years). Very straightforward IKEA job.
13 Way inclement weather produces stress (6)
STRAIN : ST (way – street), RAIN (inclement weather)
15 Two blokes engaging Oriental protectress (8)
CHAPERON : CHAP (bloke #1) + RON (bloke #2) containing [engaging] E (Oriental)
18 Wander about with a doctor recently taken on by university (8)
AMBULATE : A MB (a doctor), U (university), LATE (recently taken – deceased). I think ‘on’ here is a positional indicator to tell us that, this being an Across clue, LATE comes after U.
19 Rule reversed by prince backing one with supervisory role (6)
WALLAH : LAW (rule) reversed, HAL (prince – Henry V) reversed [backing]. I was a bit surprised by ‘supervisory’ which suggests somebody with responsibility in charge of other staff. I don’t  associate this with a wallah as a servant, but it seems the meaning may have stretched a bit over time, especially when used figuratively.
21 Put out about old woman, one moving abroad (8)
EMIGRANT : EMIT (put out) containing [about] GRAN (old woman). Grannies, like proverbial policemen, are getting a lot younger these days!
23 Conclusion not yet decided, head of panel having left (6)
ENDING : {p}ENDING (not yet decided) [head of panel having left]
26 Nymph originally named by a retired Welshman (5)
NAIAD : N{amed} [orignally], A (a), then DAI (Welshman) reversed [retired]
27 A posh cheese and drink Maria’s left: it may be on the rocks (9)
AUBRIETIA : A (a), U (posh), BRIE (cheese), TIA {Maria} (drink) [Maria’s left]. A plant typically found in rock gardens, apparently. I’ve never seen it spelt other than ‘aubretia’.
28 Bad lot left dud coins in Birmingham suburb (6,9)
SUTTON COLDFIELD : Anagram [bad] of LOT LEFT DUD COINS. A place name I was aware of from an early age as the site of the first television transmitter outside of London and the South East as the BBC often referred to it on air. Other transmitters were soon to follow, seemingly distant with almost magical names such as Holme Moss (Pennines), Kirk O’Shotts (Scotland) and Wenvoe (South Wales).
Down
1 Tiresome English girl captivated by all of Paris (7)
TEDIOUS : E (English) + DI (girl) contained [captivated] by TOUS  (all of Paris –  yer actual French)
2 Important subject,   children (5)
ISSUE : Two meanings. An escapee from the QC?
3 Dreary routine at first to study On Liberty? (9)
TREADMILL : T{o} [at first], READ (study), MILL (On Liberty?). The last bit was lost on me so I’ll just paste this in from Wiki: On Liberty is a philosophical essay by the English philosopher John Stuart Mill. Published in 1859, it applies Mill’s ethical system of utilitarianism to society and state.
4 Bugs turned up, provoking petty quarrel (4)
SPAT :TAPS (bugs – think telephones) reversed [turned up]
5 Power to restrict disorderly din at this late hour? (8)
MIDNIGHT : MIGHT (power) containing [to restrict] anagram [disorderly] of DIN
6 Like some waters initially lapping mine entrance when rising (5)
TIDAL : L{apping} [initially] + ADIT (mine entrance) reversed [when rising]. Learning to solve crosswords at my mother’s knee I remember being completely flummoxed by a clue in the Daily Telegraph that relied on knowledge of ADIT as ‘entrance to mine’, which neither of us had. At that time one had to wait until publication of the solution the next day to find out the answers so that after such a long delay they tended to stick in the memory. These days I can forget a new word within 24 hours.
7 Speech happening during summer month on Russian river (9)
INAUGURAL : IN (happening during), AUG (summer month), URAL (Russian river)
8 News about youth ultimately designed to cheer (7)
GLADDEN : GEN (news) containing [about] LAD (youth) + {designe}D [ultimately]. I’m not entirely sure than ‘gen’ on its own qualifies as news; that would be ‘the latest gen’.
14 One teaches Jews to go on about the rise of wickedness (9)
RABBINIST : RABBIT (go on – yatter) containing [about] SIN (wickedness) reversed [rise of…]
16 Person bringing action in quarrel with port authority (9)
PLAINTIFF : PLA (port authority – Port of London Authority). IN (in), TIFF (in quarrel). I rather expected something in the clue to indicate the position of PLA at the beginning of the answer.
17 Good person, one gripped by Ossie soldier’s description of some verse (8)
STANZAIC : ST (good person – saint), then I (one) contained [gripped] by ANZAC (Ossie soldier). ANZAC stands for Australian and New Zealand Army Corps so I’m not sure that ‘Ossie soldier’ is sufficient by way of a definition. Also I don’t recall seeing ‘Ossie’ before, as opposed to ‘Aussie’ .
18 State newspaper taken over Italian lake (7)
AVERNUS : AVER (state), SUN (newspaper) reversed [taken over]. I didn’t know the lake but trusted to wordplay.
20 Rider of cadaverous appearance? (7)
HAGGARD : Two meanings – Rider Haggard, author of King Solomon’s Mines and She (who must be obeyed)
22 Transmit commercial plugging port (5)
RADIO : AD (commercial) contained by [plugging] RIO (port)
24 Man, say, embracing diet finally providing fibre (5)
ISTLE : ISLE (Man, say) containing [embracing] {die}T [finally]
25 Gang leader burying extremely brave murder victim (4)
ABEL : AL (gang leader – Capone) containing [burying] B{rav}E [extremely]

91 comments on “Times Cryptic 27566”

    1. As a former resident of said town (1970-73) I would bridle at its being marked down as a “Birmingham suburb”, a term more suited to the likes of Erdington, where I had a grotty bedsit before moving upmarket ! My late first wife worked for SUTTON COLDFIELD Council for a couple of years.
      1. Happy memories of Peter Simple in the Telegraph featuring Duke Len of Erdington amongst his range of characters – not to forget Dr Heinz Kiosk with his all-purpose mantra (still so relevant today) “We are all guilty”!
    2. Born and brought up there when Sutton Coldfield was a separate town (indeed a Royal Town, whatever that means), I suppose I should be miffed at its demotion to a B’ham suburb, but that is what it has been for many years. At least it helped me achieve a very fast time, by my standards.
      1. I can happily report that Sutton Coldfield is once again recognised as a Royal Town, and has its own Town Council. It became a royal town by decree of Henry VIII, some story involving hunting in Sutton Park.

        However, the latest recognition is a bit of a fiction, since we are still in Birmingham under the auspices of the City Council on seemingly all important matters.

        Crossword today in 12’09”, I look forward to tomorrow.

        Thanks jack and setter.

        Edited at 2020-01-21 07:40 pm (UTC)

  2. Actually, a DNF since I looked up AUBRIET.A to make sure of the vowel. Never heard of it. Nor did I know SUTTON COLDFIELD. Nor PLA. I knew AVERNUS as the entrance to Hell; Dante enters there. DNK RABBINIST, nor does ODE. I had the same MERs as Jack regarding DRAMA and WALLAH; my first encounter with the latter was in ‘Passage to India’, where the fellow pulling the rope to the fan in the courtroom was the fan wallah [ON EDIT: rather (ta, horryd) the punkah wallah]; not a lot of authority there.

    Edited at 2020-01-21 05:22 am (UTC)

    1. Dunno about ODE Kevin but rabbinist is in ODO. And Collins.
      I don’t think the wallah is supervising people. A punkah wallah is supervising a fan .. it only means he’s in charge of something specific
      1. That was my understanding (of ‘wallah’); rather like ‘monitor’ when I was in elementary school: the eraser monitor had to beat the chalkdust out of the erasers, for instance.
        1. I don’t generally like relying on Chambers (see sale/vend yesterday) but FWIW it has ‘someone who occupies an eminent position in an organisation’).
          1. Well, of course for our purposes it’s less what a word means than what Chambers et al. say it means, i.e. whether it gives the setter an out.
            1. Indeed but Chambers is chock full of weird and archaic meanings and usages that don’t appear elsewhere, so I tend not to think of it as sufficient.
  3. I was happy to negotiate all the unknowns in this and finish within the half hour. I was delayed with a careful checking against the anagrist for SUTTON COLDFIELD, as this was completely unknown. Although there were quite a few DNKs for me (AVERNUS, AUBRIETIA, RABBINIST, etc) they were all fairly clued, so no complaints.

    On ANZAC as an Ossie/Aussie soldier, it’s probably a fair usage in practical terms. The ANZACs as a army corps only existed for a short time in WWI and WWII, but Anzac Day (and I note that they’ve now dropped the full capitalisation of the word) has, in recent decades, become a significant recognition of our national spirit. In my youth we all expected it to fade as all the “old diggers” died, but its popularity and significance resurged in the 1990s. It’s much less contentious than Australia Day (coming up on Sunday) which is regarded by some as “invasion day”.

    Thanks, Jack, for the helpful and timely blog.

    1. I noticed today that one of your SNITCH reference solvers, “thebarnets” finished in 3:22, and that he/she has recently finished several in a similar time. Does that mean that over time he/she may migrate to Neutrino status?
      1. Ah, yes, you’re paying attention. That solver seems to act like a neutrino about half the time – the rest of the results look very normal. I thought I’d moved them to “tracked” status (rather than reference) but I might have clobbered that change accidentally in recent updates.

        Thanks for the comment. I think it would probably make sense to mark them as a neutrino, which I will do when I get a chance.

  4. There were a few bits that I didn’t know or understand such as the ‘on the rocks’ def, ADIT to specifically describe a ‘mine entrance’, the ‘Italian lake’ and the E-less CHAPERON, but I found this on the easy side and finished in 20 minutes.

    I agree with starstruck_au re the use of ANZAC. They’re good biscuits too.

  5. Mostly pretty easy, but I had to work out AUBRIETIA, SUTTON COLDFIELD and WALLAH, none of which I’d heard of, and the last of which occasioned a MER upon looking up the def.

    Edited at 2020-01-21 04:49 am (UTC)

  6. If you are a ‘Brummie’ and rich, yow lives in SUTTON COLDFIELD (pr. Cauw-field). If one lives in Solihull, one is filthy rich. Our Colonial friends are sadly lacking in the jolly old English Geography department. Well done Lord Ulaca for being born thereabouts. 28ac was my FOI

    LOI 6dn TIDAL

    COD 1ac THIRTHYSOMETHING like me!

    WOD 27ac AUBRETIA my mother’s first plantings of the summer.

    Punkahwallah (fan-operator) is well-known in Sutton Coldfield – ‘It Ain’t ‘Alf Hot Mum!’

    Time 23 minutes in a taxi

    Edited at 2020-01-21 05:12 am (UTC)

    2. ….and, of course, if you live in Solihull, you correctly pronounce it as in “holiness”. If you’re a Brummie, you demean it by pronouncing it as in “holly”. Quite how a town whose main industry is the manufacture of Land Rovers aspires to be “posh” has always eluded me.
    3. I lived there for 6 years as a schoolboy and never heard it pronounced other than the way it is spelt. It’s not like it’s in Cornwall!

      Biggles.

  7. Not in ODE, as I said, but it is in SOED, which gives this definition: ‘A follower or adherent of rabbis; a person who accepts the teaching of the Talmud and the rabbis.’ In other words, NOT one who teaches Jews.
    1. Indeed, so it seems the setter got that one wrong or, like me, took the meaning on trust without bothering to check.
    2. Hmm, I see your SOED and raise: the OED says “Also: a student of or specialist in rabbinical writings.” .. which seems to hint at a teaching possibility. But I concede, that def. is a bit loose..
  8. Started quickly and thought this might be a pb but slowed down by haggard, istle aubrietia, and LOI the unknown avernus.

    1.24 on the clock but loads of long interruptions at work so about 45 mins. Happy to have a sequence of finishing now.

    COD haggard.

  9. … which is a bit embarrassing, given that I’ve lived in Birmingham. Oh well. 13:30 with the error.

    Just as well I read the blog or I might have ordered an AUBRIETIA next time I was out somewhere posh

    1. Lol. Ordered “On the rocks”, of course. 2 parts white rum, 1 part blue curacao, 1 part lime juice and 1 part creme de cassis might get the right sort of colour. I’m not sure it would taste too good, though.
      1. It just sounds like the kind of thing my Auntie Edna used to have at Christmas “I’d love an Aubrietia …just a very small one, though. Lots of ice.”
        1. My grandfather, when asked how he would like his whisky, wouls answer. “50:50 whisky and water. And don’t be sparing with the water.”
    2. Luckily I’ve only lived as close as Coventry, so I took the time to scribble out everything in the anagram that wasn’t SUTTON FIELD to check!
  10. With a SNITCH of a mere 60 I see that many found this straightforward, including some who managed times of 4 minutes something!

    I was helped by my FOI being SUTTON COLDFIELD which I’m sure was a LOI for most non-natives. A distinct advantage to being a Brit for that clue! There were a few unknowns for me today – AUBRIETIA, ISTLE and AVERNUS – but the wordplay left no room for ambiguity.

  11. 10:09. The top half went in very quickly, but I took a while to see SUTTON COLDFIELD before I could get PLAINTIFF and STANZAIC. LOI DISREGARD, but only because I had forgotten I hadn’t done it. AVERNUS and RABBINIST unknown but got from the wordplay. I liked AUBRIETIA, but, like Jack, I’m not sure I’ve seen it spelt that way before.
  12. My fastest time for years (I think). I wrote the two long clues at 1a and 28a straight in. Everything else fell into place. Only AVERNUS made me pause.
  13. …are gone down to Avernus
    17 mins pre brekker.
    NHO Adit or Istle.
    Thanks setter and J.
  14. Easy but entertaining. Enjoyed reminder of SUTTON C. Took me back to Ally Pally and Crystal Palace.
  15. I’m glad I found the top half of this one so easy, as I royally stuffed up the bottom half. The fact that I didn’t know AVERNUS, RABBINIST, STANZAIC, ISTLE or AUBRIETIA was hardly helped by my shoving UNDULATE in at 18a and only realising I’d got the first three letters wrong when I finally realised that the Jewish teacher surely must have something to do with rabbis and rabbinical schools, and the D looked increasingly suspicious. “Ossie” had me thinking about East Germany right up until I figured out the STANZA bit.

    I finally sorted it all out in 51 minutes, so all’s well that ends well, I suppose. FOI 1a THIRTYSOMETHING (even though I’ve never seen the TV series) LOI 18d AVERNUS.

    Edited at 2020-01-21 08:37 am (UTC)

  16. 12 minutes, with only pauses for AVERNUS and STANZAIC. I think that STRAIN is the opposite of STRESS but I suppose it’s only a matter of sign. COD to AUBRIETIA, a must at the front of the bed. To call THIRTYSOMETHINGs of a certain age is, I imagine, a provocation to most of us here. They haven’t begun yet. SUTTON COLDFIELD, forever linked with the Scout Jamboree in my head. Enjoyable puzzle. Thank you Jack and setter.
  17. On the wavelength, probably because there was no science involved. 15 mins on the tablet, pre dog walk. Finally learning to trust wordplay when I don’t actually know a word, so improvement there.
    Roin
  18. 5:00. I hope you will forgive me for feeling insufferably smug just a little pleased with myself this morning, having managed to come in just on the five-minute mark in spite of several unknowns, which meant I needed the wordplay quite a lot. This included my last in AUBRIETIA, which I constructed from wordplay hurriedly at the end, somehow managing not to put in my first thought for the last three letters, which was TEA.
  19. Nothing individual in my solving experience. I am in that part of the Venn diagram containing people familiar with the suburbs of the West Midlands, but not the rocky plant (wordplay dictated it couldn’t be much else, though). Also slightly disconcerted by the Ossie; our colonial cousins have always been Aussies to me, and the only Ossie I know is Senor Ardiles of Tottingham.
  20. 18 mins. Okay with Sutton C., but didn’t know the plant. Avernus on wordplay; it sounds cognate with Auvergne. Thanks jack.
  21. Did anyone else put ‘SNUB’ for 4d? ‘buns’ (as in Bugs Bunny’ reversesed. We had a rabbit called Bugs Bunny and shortened that to Buns…
  22. Nice easy one for me completing in 18 mins. The only hold-ups were TREADMILL which was one of the easier ones and AVERNUS which I didn’t know, and was desperately looking for a state with the available letters.
    Nice to have the author of the book with my surname in it, even he though he spells it differently (or wrong!)
  23. I didn’t know the Port Authority, the lake, the fibre or the plant, but was easily able to assemble them from the enclosed instructions. I’d met the RABBINIST previously in these puzzles. HAGGARD made me laugh when I saw it. ISSUE went in first and THITYSOMETHING was my LOI after having all the checkers and still needing to write the whole thing out! An enjoyable romp at 17:51. Thanks setter and Jack.
  24. but never Ossie, other than as a short form of Oswald (pauses and adjusts eyebrow).

    NHO Lake AVERNUS, but despite that, and trying to treat “youth ultimately” as “h”, I sailed serenely through this one.

    FOI TEDIOUS (didn’t see 1A, entered “dis” to begin 9A, then moved on).
    LOI STANZAIC (wrong-footed by Ossie)
    COD AUBRIETIA (reminded me of weekends ruined by the forced labour of weeding my parents’ rockery)
    TIME 7:29

  25. Top half went in at warp speed but then I stalled. Not helped by misspelling 17d as “stanziac” which made rubble of the rock garden. Also held up by RABBINIST where I agree with Kevin that it means the student not the teacher. Slow to get WALLAH until I remembered an early Merchant/Ivory movie from eons ago called Shakespeare Wallah. 14.42
  26. Gentle stuff, even if (like me) you didn’t know AUBRETIA, AVERNUS or PLA – and had to check the anagrist carefully to make sure it wasn’t SUTTON COLEFIELD.

    5m 20s all told. By the way, isn’t ‘thirtysomething’ an uncertain (rather than a certain) age? Speaking as one myself, I’m not sure…

    1. Since usually the expression “of a certain age” is a euphemism for long in the tooth, not a precise number of years (just certainly past a… certain point), I think it can work the same way here.
      1. If THIRTYSOMETHING is long in the tooth, what does that make the majority of contributors here?
        1. I said that’s what the expression usually refers to; I didn’t propose that it refers to that here. Obviously, it’s a certain age within a certain decade.
          It’s the second definition of “certain” that appears at the top of a page of Google results:
          specific but not explicitly named or stated.
          “he raised certain personal problems with me”
        2. If THIRTYSOMETHING is long in the tooth, what does that make the majority of contributors here?

          VAMPIRES!

          Edited at 2020-01-21 08:32 pm (UTC)

  27. The top half of this puzzle would have passed for quite easy in a Quick Cryptic, but the bottom half posed a stiffer challenge. In any event, an enjoyable puzzle — i.e. one that I was able to complete in under 45 minutes, despite initially entering “Sutton Coalfield” instead of SUTTON COLDFIELD!

    I agree with all the objections to RABBINIST, which all the dictionaries make clear is a follower or believer in, or possible student of, rabbinical teachings but not the person who does the teaching.

    The setter seemed to rely rather heavily on alternative spellings — CHAPERON (instead of “chaperone”), AUBRIETIA (not the far more common “aubretia”) and ISTLE (not “ixtle”). That said, the cryptic parsing made pretty clear what was required.

  28. I was doing spectacularly well I thought, with a time of 14’21” . Only to discover that my knowledge of Brum suburbs is lacking. I had Colefield. Didn’t check against the anagram. Assumed cole was an old spelling of coal. Oh well.
  30. Success at last. My first sub ten of the year- 9.32. One of those occasions when I felt totally tuned in to the setter. Any chance he/she/they can always be the setter?
  31. Isn’t it time to knock on the head that Chambers is in some way a devalued reference for the meanings of words? It’s an acknowledged source dictionary for many puzzles, and from what I gather the Times Mephisto could hardly exist without it.
    2. To be honest, it’s rarely use anything else these days. I have the app on my computer and use it almost exclusively.
      1. I use it all the time too: I have the app on my phone. I love it dearly but it’s undoubtedly stuffed with odd words and definitions.
    3. Chambers is wilfully quirky: part of the reason it’s used for Mephisto is precisely because it contains so many obscure, archaic and dialect words (not to mention the incredibly extensive lists of abbreviations). There are also often cases (today and yesterday being examples) where it gives meanings that are not supported by other more mainstream dictionaries. So personally I think it needs to be used with caution.
  32. I raced through this and was hoping to have avoided any pink squares. But AUBRIETTA found me out. Drat!
  33. Nice puzzle, although a bit of a challenge for me, finding WALLAH, AUBRIETIA, AVERNUS and SUTTON… only via the wordplay. Happily, the wordplay wasn’t too hard to follow, if the results seemed weird. I doubt I’ve ever used to word ‘STANZAIC’ but it’s pretty obvious what it is supposed to be saying. Regards.
  34. Plenty I didn’t know here – ISTLE, AUBRIETIA, RABBINIST, AVERNUS and On Liberty. But the clues were kindly
  35. A nice puzzle that had a few zingers in it. Happily the wordplay and checkers allowed me to follow the trail to previously unknown places like SUTTON …., and also see AVERNUS, WALLAH and AUBRIETIA along the way. I doubt if I’ve ever used the word ‘SATZAIC’ in either writing or speech, but it’s not a mystery what it is supposed to mean. Regards.
  36. A nice puzzle that had a few zingers in it. Happily the wordplay and checkers allowed me to follow the trail to previously unknown places like SUTTON …., and also see AVERNUS, WALLAH and AUBRIETIA along the way. I doubt if I’ve ever used the word ‘STANZAIC’ in either writing or speech, but it’s not a mystery what it is supposed to mean. Regards.
  37. Seventeen minutes, which is quick for me; sadly, this means the puzzle was simpler rather than that I was smarter than usual.

    ISTLE was a new one on me (and my LOI). I presume it’s a key ingredient in the making of thistles, gristle and bristles. Quite a few others (STANZAIC, AVERNUS, were NHOs too.

    All in all, this was a welcome distraction from a groin-ache (yes, I know, TMI) caused by my being biopsied today with what felt like a length of scaffolding pole. I now whistle if the wind hits me at a certain angle.

  39. A nice puzzle that had a few zingers in it. Happily the wordplay and checkers allowed me to follow the trail to previously unknown places like SUTTON …., and also see AVERNUS, WALLAH and AUBRIETIA along the way. I doubt if I’ve ever used the word ‘STANZAIC’ in either writing or speech, but it’s not a mystery what it is supposed to mean. Regards.
    1. Sorry to all for these repeated entries. Live Journal was not indicating that any of these actually went through. Oops.
  40. Rats. I was within shouting distance of a sub 1hr finish, but just couldn’t get the unknown Italian lake, despite recognising the possibility of a *nus ending. However, I spent my youth within range of the Sutton Coldfield transmitter, so overall a straightforward case of some you win, some you lose. Invariant
  41. 16:34 so another fairly easy going puzzle. The unknown aubrietia was easy to construct, had forgotten the PLA and istle. Nearly shot myself in the foot with Sutton Coalfield but fortunately reconsidered when I couldn’t get 25dn to fit those checkers.
  42. Yay! I usually do the QC but today I had a go at the 15X15 and got on really well! I couldn’t parse quite a few of the clues and I had to use an aid but I got it all filled in. OK I made a couple of mistakes but I was really pleased. Thank you to the setter and for jakkts explanations.
    Blue Stocking
    1. Try telling that to the acting profession! Actually Collins and Chambers make no distinction between CHAPERON and CHAPERONE and both say it’s a female. The Oxfords just say ‘person…’ but also give both spellings.

      Edited at 2020-02-01 06:53 pm (UTC)

  44. Lest we forget, the Kiwi soldiers were ignored in 17d, which is unfortunate. Perhaps it could have been clued as a biscuit ( Anzac cookies are very good !) to make it little more difficult for those living in suburban Birmingham.
    1. Oh, 23 mins and Sutton Coldfield wasn’t last in for this Ossie, Aussie, Ozzie…….

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