I found this toughish, taking an age to get going and scrambling through in all but 28 minutes. But it’s also a good cut above the average, with some very fine clues in the mix. One of them I failed to parse while solving – it’s a form of clue I often have a blind spot for, but should be obvious from the odd and un-cryptic-like collection of words. If I have an issue, it’s with the Irish club, which is always a beast to spell given the Irish habit of pronouncing things more or less unconnected with the way they’re spelt. The name that is used to construct the answer is not especially familiar and itself an odd looking spelling. Errors expected.
Below are my versions of the clues with their definitions also underlined, and SOLUTIONS thus.
Across
1 Make good list for auditors (4)
HEAL Should have got this quicker. Just a homophone (for auditors) of HEEL which means list as in keel over.
3 Girl outside seedy Irish club (10)
SHILLELAGH Today’s spelling test, which I repeatedly failed even with the wordplay. Some of you will just have to take my word for it, but the girl you’re looking for is SHELAGH, her name placed outside ILL for seedy. Here’s Shelagh Docherty, journalist and broadcaster, formerly of Radio 5 live, now with LBC
9 Beam as delivery arrives on time (7)
TRANSOM A crossbeam such as on a ship. Delivery is RANSOM, placed onto T(ime) The clue is (deliberately?) ambiguous about which end to put the T.
11 Bats briefly at Lord’s, overly trusting partner? (7)
CUCKOLD Bats is rendered as CUCKOO, with its last letter cut. LD is a conventional abbreviation for Lord, and I think you have to ignore the ‘s, there to give a context for the batting.
12 Rarely at rest, in haste avoiding warm-up? (4-9)
HEAT-RESISTANT An anagram (rarely) of AT REST IN HASTE
14 A leading poet’s with expedition (5)
AMAIN A in plain sight plus MAIN for leading, as in leading role. Poets use the word to mean swift (our purpose) or with great strength. I lost time trying to find a poet’s name to tag onto A to get an answer
15 Reliable English clergyman suspected of murder, somewhat taken aback (9)
EVERGREEN Fabulous clue. In Cluedo, one of the characters is Rev Green. So you have E(nglish) plus REV GREEN partly (the REV bit) reversed, taken aback
17 Crisis point returning as liquid in well includes fuel (5-4)
KNIFE-EDGE (Such) as gives you EG, and liquid in a well is INK. Reverse both (returning) and insert FEED for fuel (as a verb)
19 Undercarriage that is stuck on swamp (5)
BOGIE One you don’t have to think about,. BOG for marsh, IE for that is.
21 PC their primary rank? (7,6)
THOUGHT POLICE I’ll put this down as a CD, playing on PC both as Police Constable and Political Correctness. I think it just about gets away with it.
24 Upstart’s mean? Not the end of the world (7)
PARVENU Mean translates as PAR via average, the VENUS as a world but without its end letter
25 The state of the loos outrageous! (7)
LESOTHO An anagram (outrageous) of THE LOOS
26 Turn out policies with singular appeal (10)
COMELINESS So turn out is COME, policies is/are LINES, add S(ingular)
27 African runners, the latest to be picked up (4)
GNUS The ones I saw were moving at a sedate pace in company with zebras, but I guess they can run, if not particularly noted for it. Sounds like (picked up) NEWS for latest, of course. Loads of jokes in there.
Down
1 Design assists in production of cars (10)
HATCHBACKS Design yields HATCH as in hatch a plot, and assists gives BACKS.
2 Just like our doctors to get in a state (7)
ALABAMA I think this is just like: À LA, as in à la mode, à la Florentine, our doctors BMA (British Medical Association) getting in, including, the extra A
4 He’s fixed up with a modest country dwelling (9)
HOMESTEAD An anagram (fixed up) of HE’S plus A MODEST, one of those where the anagram fodder has to be picked out from the clue. [On edit: while I don’t know who to thank, since s/HE’S A MODEST anon contributer, you don’t need the ‘S in the anagram fodder]
5 Place that’s old, of course, periodically visited (5)
LOCUS Alternate letters (periodically visited) of oLd Of CoUrSe
6 Fight through trade winds (8,5)
EXCHANGE BLOWS Separate trade from winds, and translate each into EXCHANGE and BLOWS fine surface and misdirection.
7 A fool accepting note, one being taken in (7)
ADOPTEE A again stands in for itself, the fool is DOPE, insert TE for a note in the sol-fa scale.
8 Experienced judge’s trip of a lifetime? (4)
HADJ One-off pilgrimage to Mecca undertaken by faithful Muslims. Experienced HAD plus J(udge).
10 It’s unusual way to extend, and count, old measure (7,2,4)
STRANGE TO TELL Way is ST(reet), extend is RANGE, count is TOT, and old measure ELL< which crops up here often enough being useful for setters.
13 Giving little ground eg on run with Sue (10)
UNGENEROUS Another anagram (ground) where you first have to extract the fodder from the clue: EG ON RUN and SUE
16 Features in some crustaceans and indeed in European rabbits (9)
EYESTALKS Such as on this one. YES for indeed appears in E(uropean) plus TALKS for rabbits
18 Cockney person who suggests one’s acting? (7)
INTERIM A Cockney person who suggests is a(n) ‘INTER., and ones, or one is, gives I’M
20 Information masters are inclined to shine (7)
GLISTEN Masters is the inclusion word here: place LIST for incline inside GEN for information
22 Tiny binder supposedly at first getting lost under old notepaper (5)
GLUON “A particle thought of as passing between quarks and so signifying the force that binds them together”. Do you know, I’ve only just spotted how this works, and I’m kicking myself. First letters (at first) of Getting Lost Under Old Notepaper. Simples.
23 Risk when fungi is pulled up (4)
SPEC The reverse (pulled up) of CEPS a form of fungi.
I had to parse them all to make sure they were right – I nearly biffed apostle for adoptee. It took a while to remember the Rev Green, I haven’t played that game for 55 years.
Also took a long time to see how gluon worked, the definition clearly the first two words and then had to drop S (supposedly at first) from another longer word. Did figure it out, but post-solve.
Nevertheless a fine puzzle, much enjoyed. Liked Thought Police best. Thanks setter and blogger.
Edit: even with locus in place I might not have been able to spell shillelagh correctly, with the NHO name leading to guesswork.
And… first guess for 18dn was implier… person who suggests, with cockney I’m player being pronounced as I’m plier. As appeared only a month or two ago: Cockneys pronouncing their short As as short Is, same as Australians.
Edited at 2021-08-12 01:10 pm (UTC)
FOI 3ac SILLELAGH – a word I learnt to spell from the nights when I used to out clubbin’.
COD 24ac PARVENU
WOD 21ac THOUGHT POLICE primary? But, I didn’t think the clue quite got away with it.
I did like 15ac’s Cluedo reference to the bad Reverend Green – I was then hoping for a Nina but no mention of scarlet women et al. Shame!
Edited at 2021-08-12 04:01 am (UTC)
The spelling Shelagh always reminds me of Ms Delaney, and the wonderful 1961 movie starring Rita Tushingham and Murray Melvin.
FOI LOCUS, COD (of the ones I solved unaided) EYESTALKS
Somewhat deflated – but as a relative newbie I guess these days are to be expected …this one came 24 hours early.
I’ve never played Cluedo and only know the characters and weapons from themed crosswords elsewhere (mentioned only yesterday in the FT puzzle) but remembered enough to see what was going on with EVERGREEN. I also liked THOUGHT POLICE even if I could only just parse it, like our blogger. That question mark at the end though can excuse almost anything.
I won’t detail all my problems but just mention that I NHO AMAIN and elsewhere there were too many leaps of faith required over shades of meanings of words, at least for my taste.
z8, I don’t think 8ac is ambiguous as it follows the ‘on’ rule as it applies to Across clues.
I think the apostrophe s at 11ac stands for ‘is’ and I would interpret the clue as ‘Bats briefly at Lord is (a word meaning) overly trusting partner’.
Now off to lick my wounds from this and hope that the Grauniad puzzle is a little kinder to me than yesterday’s was. I need a confidence-booster!
Edited at 2021-08-12 05:33 am (UTC)
Is RANSOM really a delivery? Is “overly trusting partner”a synonym for CUCKOLD? Think Z was being v generous about the POLICE CD. And AMAIN … well I’m used to the poet’s reference thing in the Azed but wasn’t expecting it here and that was the one I couldn’t get after an hour
I’ll await the grief I’m probably about to get!
Thanks (sort of) setter and very much so for the enlightening blog Z
Edited at 2021-08-12 07:46 am (UTC)
A great word, most amusingly clued
COD for this fogey?
Well I might pick a BOGIE
But people would think i was crude
THOUGHT POLICE still makes me uneasy, still can’t see how it works apart from the allusions — rank? COD to EVERGREEN. Miss Scarlet was my favourite, for unknown reasons.
25′ 04″, thanks z and setter.
Edited at 2021-08-12 09:11 am (UTC)
Took a while to work out how to spell (and parse) SHILLELAGH. Then held up for ages on STRANGE TO TELL and AMAIN, not helped by having entered APACE initially.
FOI BOGIE, LOI AMAIN. Liked GLUON (probably because I saw the derivation immediately).
Was never seen in forest green, so fierce, so fleet a race!
After 30 mins I’d only filled half — but I liked it and kept going. After another 30 mins I had the NHO amain unfilled. Of course I went through every poet I know about a zillion times.
Thanks setter and great blog Z.
Feel like I can handle these things when the SNITCH is below 100 but with a tricky one like this, just feel like a beginner again and scrabble round getting about half the clues before collapsing in a heap.
More practice needed!
Edit — now realised I did know the name Shelagh Delaney from my years of The Smiths fandom. She was a big influence on Morrissey, which led to me watching A Taste of Honey.
Edited at 2021-08-12 08:10 am (UTC)
A few months ago, I actually sought out the stone stircase, a few steps form the Holt Town Metrolink station, where the young lovers say their goodbyes, unaware that Jo is pregnant.
Him: “Why do ya love me?”
Her: “Because you’re daft!”
I spent my chioldhood on the Fylds coast (Cleveleys) and still visit quite frequently for family reasons, as I did yesterday. Attended schools in Poulton and Fleetwood, worked in variious William Hill branches in Blackpool before decamping to Manchester to spend my student grant (I won’t call it study, coz it wasn’t).
Best wishes, Denise
Thanks for the details, Wanderer, that’s really quite a delightful coincidence!. Yep, I know those Cleveleys roads, having spent periods living on Green Drive (Rossall Beach) and Derby Road by the bus station. Not a bad place to grow up, I remember starting a paper round, and thinking that the Manchester Evening News, which a few customers took, was from somewhere distant and exotic. Cleveleys town centre now has a somewhat run-down feel, a the family-run shops like Grundys mostly gone, replaced by cut-price chain outlets. (the arrival of B&M Bargains when I was 15 or 16 began that long descent). Looking on the bright side, at least it’s not Fleetwood.
Can’t confirm or deny your suspicions about Baines, for fear of blowing my already-flimsy cover 😊…
Nice puzzle – good challenge.
Thanks, z. I think it’s Shelagh Fogarty, btw 🙂
I must have spent at least 15mins on AMAIN. Like Z i was looking for a poet I could fit into A?A??N. I wanted to put APACE but the E would have ruined 10d.
Thanks, Z, for GLUON. Didn’t spot the initial letters thing.
As far as HADJ is concerned, I believe many people do more than one pilgrimage in their lifetime.
FOI: SHILLELAGH (As others have said, SHELAGH Delaney wrote “A Taste of Honey”. I thought Ray Brooks, who was one of my favourite actors of that time, was also in the film but he was with Rita Tushingham in “The Knack”)
LOI: AMAIN
COD: KNIFE EDGE.
Edited at 2021-08-12 09:18 am (UTC)
I thought it was a first-rate puzzle with EVERGREEN and CUCKOLD the pick of a fine crop.
We used to have a shillelagh hanging in our house when I was a boy, but as it had “Present from Killarney” and a shamrock stamped on it, I doubt if it had ever seen any meaningful action.
Thanks to z and the setter.
the setter had used wrong grammar deliberately, and that IS was not actually the link word which it appeared to be.
COD EVERGREEN. I always play my games with yellow, so I’ll go with Colonel Mustard.
The Cluedo clue is very good though.
Nothing unknown for me at least, although I needed the (thoroughly 13dn) wordplay to spell the club and I’m not sure I’d have been able to tell you exactly what a BOGIE is in this context.
Edited at 2021-08-12 11:46 am (UTC)
Lots to enjoy in this puzzle but agree with various comments above that some of the clueing is tricky, bordering on obscure. To those already mentioned, I would add: why the question mark after Upstart’s Mean? It’s a straightforward clue so no question mark required, methinks.
Thanks for the blog.
GNUS was quite funny (even if I don’t pronounce it like that), ALABAMA was good and INTERIM was nicely put together. I wasn’t aware of that definition of SPEC so that was a late one when I couldn’t come up with anything better.
FOI SHILLELAGH
LOI HEAL
COD THOUGHT POLICE
TIME 18:48
Edited at 2021-08-12 07:55 pm (UTC)
Today’s clue is still a huge stretch though.
I was pleased to see Shillelagh right off; I had no idea how to spell it until all the crossers were in; unlike with some words which pop up in the puzzle from time to time it seems very unlikely that I learned from today how to spell it for next time.
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