Times 29488: Tricky Thursday, level 4

Time taken: 20:21

I probably should have called in a sub for today. I had what I thought was going to be a small procedure yesterday and it has turned into a lot of pain, a slow recovery and a daze of painkillers. Add to that my computer being back for repairs for some Windows 11 bug that won’t let it boot up and me using a borrowed computer that took me enough tries to log on that I was put in a 20-minute penalty box by this site.

I thought near the end this might be a pangram (which helped me get 25 across) but there is no V.

Looking at early times I feel confident that this is Tricky Thursday and amazed that I managed to get through it at all under the circumstances. How did you get along?

Across
1 Justification OK for uprising (11)
GROUNDSWELL – GROUNDS (justification), WELL (OK, like I am not)
7 What’s unknown on heads in France and England? (3)
FEZ – an all-in-one: Z (unknown) on the first letters of France and England
9 Fabric missing hem, lower flag (9)
TRICOLOUR – TRICOT (a dress fabric) minus the last letter, then LOUR (lower)
10 Block surrounding opening to exterior part of Cape Town property (5)
STOEP – STOP (block) surrounding the first letter of Exterior. A term paying us a visit from Mephistoland
11 Accessory in relationship cut (3,4)
TIE CLIP – TIE (relationship), CLIP (cut)
12 Fancy gear associated with leaders in administration primarily? (7)
REGALIA – REGAL (associated with leaders) then the first letters of In Administration. As pointed out in several comments, though I think my parsing is valid, the intention was another all-in-one, an anagram of GEAR then the first letters of Leaders In Administration
13 Return setter’s first exceptional puzzle (5)
REBUS – reversal of the first letter of Setter then UBER (exceptional)
15 Sauce label off, pretty much (4,5)
JUST ABOUT – JUS (sauce), TAB (label), OUT (off)
17 Get upset with partner wearing fleece (4,1,4)
SHED A TEAR – DATE (partner) inside SHEAR (fleece)
19 Honest family takes up crime in the end (5)
CLEAN – CLAN (family) containing the last letter of crimE
20 Darling rejected by girl — gaffe! (7)
MISSTEP – PET (darling) reversed after MISS (girl)
22 Hair in mixer? (7)
WHISKER – double definition
24 Idea in force, briefly (5)
THEME – THE MET (force) minus the last letter
25 Search patrols aren’t more odd, compared to others (9)
QUAINTEST – QUEST (search) containing AIN’T (aren’t). My second-last in, thinking that for the pangram there had to be a Q and V somewhere, found the Q
27 She abandons one currency before backing — another? (3)
LEK – remove SHE from SHEKEL (currency) and reverse
28 Signal file fascinating political speaker? (11)
SPELLBINDER – SPELL (signal, as in spell out your doom), then BINDER (file)
Down
1 Pick up sheep that’s rolled over (3)
GET – TEG (sheep) reversed
2 Leather releasing hydrogen compound (5)
OXIDE – OX HIDE (leather) minus H (hydrogen)
3 Edible strands rarely working when 1000 cut up (7)
NOODLES – SELDOM (rarely) and ON (working) minus M (1000), all reversed
4 Top sandwich in America (6,3)
SLOPPY JOE – double definition. In the UK, it is a loose jumper, in the USA, it is a hot sandwich with ground meat and sauce
5 Fluff stuck inside upright freezer or refrigerator (5)
ERROR – hidden reversed inside freezeR OR REfrigerator
6 Italian food, while in wrap, irrelevant (7)
LASAGNA – AS (while) inside LAG (wrap a pipe with insulating material) then N/A (irrelevant)
7 Free pay, easy! (9)
FOOTLOOSE – FOOT (pay for), LOOSE (easy)
8 Fly: fly quicker shielding wings on extension (3,8)
ZIP FASTENER – ZIP (fly) then FASTER (quicker) surrounding the external letters of ExtensioN
11 Whale, spirit heard in powerful music (6,5)
THRASH METAL – THRASH (whale or beat) then a homophone of METTLE (spirit)
14 Complains tree is cut (9)
BEEFSTEAK – BEEFS (complains), then TEAK (tree)
16 Wind blast, absurd (9)
SCREWBALL – SCREW (wind), then BALL (blast, fun event)
18 Player with cavil originally splitting a hair (7)
ACTRESS – first letter of Cavil inside A, TRESS (hair)
19 Jersey etc wrapped round new hat in red (7)
CHIANTI – CI (Channel Islands, Jersey etc) surrounding an anagram of HAT,IN
21 Ill-feeling cut short card game (5)
PIQUE – PIQUET (card game) minus the last letter
23 Mould close to moisture in rising damp (5)
KNEAD – last letter of moisturE inside DANK (damp) reversed
26 Sea dog, animal sailing north (3)
TAR – RAT (animal) reversed

39 comments on “Times 29488: Tricky Thursday, level 4”

  1. Too good again for me today. Probably managed about 60% of it before resorting to aids. Was pleased to see the parsing of NOODLES pretty quickly along with BEEFSTEAK, which provided some checkers. Bunged in THRASH for whale but NHO the music. I also parsed REGALIA as Vinyl above. Biffed SLOPPY JOE but I think I’ve heard of it somewhere.
    Thanks George and setter.

  2. Gosh that was hard. I was pleased just to finish in 52 but that doesn’t reflect the many occasions where I ‘resorted to aids’ (ie cheated) to make sense of impenetrable clues. I’m looking at LASAGNA, QUAINTEST and THRASH METAL in particular, but they had mates. A proper challenge, thanks George. Oh I’m with Vinyl too on REGALIA.

    From I Shall Be Free:
    Well the funniest woman I ever seen
    Was the great-granddaughter of Mr CLEAN
    She takes about fifteen baths a day
    Wants me to grow a moustache on my face
    She’s insane…

  3. That was a blast! I did start slowly but soon quickened to a steady pace. When I dredged up TEG, I had the G and S so GROUNDSWELL from the definition, parsed as I wrote it in. There were a bunch like that. I enjoyed the wordplay anyway.

  4. 72 minutes. Always disappointing to take over an hour but I found this hard and it was some consolation to have completed it without errors. Several unparsed and STOEP only vaguely recognised, without knowing its meaning, as a South Africa term.

    Lots of clues to like – as usual I’ll go for the two &lits as my favourites.

    Thanks to George for doing the blog under such difficult circumstances – sorry to hear about your trials and tribulations and hope you (and your computer) are now on the mend.

  5. 80 minutes, but after the hour had passed I used aids 4 or 5 times to look up synonyms and something to go with THRASH at 11dn. I don’t recall ever coming across that meaning of whale before, and I’m thankful I have never knowingly heard any of the music being defined.

    QUAINTEST, KNEAD and SCREWBALL were others that required some assistance. I probably should have persevered with all of them but I had run out of steam by that point. NHO TRICOT or STOEP but that didn’t delay me.

  6. 24:53 which felt like I was punching above my weight on this one. I see that it pushed Verlaine over the 13-minute mark so it’s safe to say that it was harder than a cat’s head.

    Great puzzle though, with a number of clues that seemed totally impenetrable until they weren’t.

    Thanks setter and thanks especially to George for going above and beyond.

  7. Good crossword this, not easy but 15ac doable. Managed it without a 20ac. No unknowns, even the powerful music rang a vague bell.
    I parsed REGALIA the same as Vinyl. Re the FEZ, evidently our setter is not a fan of Tommy Cooper..

  8. Oof! That was a bit of a struggle with time coming in around the 35 minute mark. SLOPPY JOE nho in either sense and TRICOT also nho making LOI, TRICOLOUR, tricky until all the crossers were in place. Add to that the fact I couldn’t see why ‘political’ was in the def for SPELLBINDER – have we had one in recent times who meets that correct definition? Faves inc FEZ, REGALIA which I parsed as others above, REBUS, JUST ABOUT, OXIDE and SCREWBALL.

    Thanks to setter and blogger

  9. THRASH METAL, SPELLBINDER and BEEFSTEAK were still missing when I abandoned ship in the SW, with a biffed REBUS unvalidated. Tricky Thursday indeed. I got SLOPPY JOE only from the American part of the clue, but even then I thought it was a pizza. Thank you George for battling through your travails, and setter for this beast.

  10. 21:26. I was relieved to finish this, ending with SHED A TEAR, without getting too stuck. DNK the fabric or the UK meaning of the messy US sandwich. Lots to enjoy – particularly FEZ (my FOI), the &lit REGALIA (which I parsed as Vinyl did) and ZIP FASTENER. No problem with STOEP as we had one when I lived in South Africa as a boy. Thanks George for the blog (I hope you recover quickly) and setter for the entertaining challenge.

  11. Over 50 minutes with aids, so I’m going to relieve my frustrations with a couple of gripes.
    FEZ could also be FEY – the latter can mean the mysterious or unknown.
    SPELLBINDER – why specifically a political speaker? I would put Billy Graham and (having heard him often) the historian Richard Cobb in that category.
    Thanks and good wishes George; congratulations setter, you were too good for me today.

    1. I wondered about SPELLBINDER as well, but alongside the more expansive definition, Chambers says:

      An orator, usu political or evangelical, who holds his or her audience spellbound

    2. I don’t think FEY works. If the clue is &Lit then the the whole thing is the definition and the ‘heads in France and England’ part is nonsense. If it’s not &Lit then ‘unknown’ is the definition and there is nothing in the wordplay to indicate the Y.

  12. DNF. Gave up on the hour with 73% done and not enjoying enough to come back later. Out of my league.
    What I did manage was a slog and so far off wavelength it might have been from a different publication (or planet) though they all look reasonable now I see them explained, just too clever for me.
    Thanks to setter and George, I’m always impressed by a solve like this even under ideal circs.

  13. Crikey, that was tough but a DNF in the end as I too resorted to aids for the NHO THRASH METAL, and SCREWBALL. L3I PIQUE, QUAINTEST & CHIANTI all took an age to see. For some odd reason recently i have failed to see “red” as a wine on several occasions.

    I liked ZIP FASTENER & JUST ABOUT.

    Thanks glh and setter.

  14. DNF Started using aids after about 40 minutes but then decided I wasn’t really enjoying this puzzle at all. “Its not you it’s me”. I did like ZIP FASTENER

    Thanks to George and the setter,

  15. 37.29. There, I’ve admitted it! I think the problem with this puzzle is that our setter, as s/he is entitled to, made all the definitions and elements of wordplay as oblique as possible, possibly by going through the dictionary definitions and selecting only those which are at the bottom of the list. I’ll offer THRASH METTLE as an example, where both words are distant cousins to their clue words, and “powerful music” could be anything.
    I’m surprised it wasn’t a pangram: when the Q appeared after the LEK I worked on the assumption that it was, and began to move a bit quicker with such as FEZ (another far distant definition), JUST ABOUT and OXIDE.
    How you managed this with all the odds stacked against you is a mystery, George. Reminds me of the Pratchett episode where Fred Colon, Carrot Ironfoundersson and Nobby Nobbs make a bow shot as difficult as possible on the basis that “it’s a million to one chance, but it might just work”. Swift recovery for you and your kit!

  16. Been in and around sheep farming for 30 years and never heard of a ‘teg’. Laughed and gave up instantly.

  17. From TEG to CHIANTI in 60:19 although I did fruitlessly look up types of whale (whale = thrash!! Really???) before TIE CLIP led me to THRASH. METAL had been in for a while but couldn’t get it with only the R from REBUS to work with. SHED A TEAR arrived after SLOPPY JOE, which came as a result of me checking Google to see if SLURPY JOE was a thing, after dismissing SLEEPY JOE. SCREWBALL eventuall cleared the way for SPELLBINDER after which LOI CHIANTI arrived with a deep sigh. Bloody hard work with no real sense of achievement. Thanks George. Hope you feel better soon.

  18. 17:57. Tough indeed. I enjoyed this one though, it often required close attention to the wordplay.
    A couple of things I didn’t understand: the ‘tricot’ part of 9ac and the ‘whale’ part of 11dn.
    Add me to the apparently long list of Brits who only knew the US meaning of SLOPPY JOE.
    Sorry to hear of your travails, George, hope you’re feeling better very soon.

  19. Abandoned with 4 in top LH corner unfinished . NHO SLOPPY JOE (had the Joe part in) as a jumper or a sandwich. NHO of THRASH METAL although had METAL for mettle in. Thrash means whale? Had PUT in at 1a (TUP reversed) so never saw GROUND although had pencilled in SWELL. No real complaints once I read the blog, so well done, George, under adverse circs.

  20. 37:12

    Got to 72% and wondered how on earth I could finish this, but incredibly, these things somehow come together. Some notes:

    TRICOLOUR – one of my last four in – pencilled in from the first and last checker and tentative middle checker – got the LOUR part, but no idea about the fabric
    STOEP – easy to fill in from wordplay and checkers, perhaps heard of before, but didn’t know what it was
    REGALIA – parsed same way as Vinyl
    QUAINTEST – only got this once the Q arrived
    THRASH METAL – from four checkers and the definition, completely failed to parse
    NOODLES – had this pencilled in early on, but could not see how it worked
    SLOPPY JOE – I’ve heard of a Sloppy Joe pizza, but neither of the definitions/allusions here – only bunged in when it was completely clear
    LASAGNA – I’m never entirely sure whether the last letter should be an A or an E, so the parsing helped considerably here
    CHIANTI – not CRIMSON then…

    Thanks G and setter

  21. Too hard for me after yesterdays almost easy for a Times Crossword that is. Thanks for blogging in such grim circumstances.

  22. My thanks to glh and setter.
    Well I wish you well glh. I took forever over this, and some of them were ugh.
    9a Tricolour biffed, NHO Tricot nor do I know lour=lower – oh yes I do!
    15a Just about biffed.
    1d Get. Teg suddenly came to me, improving on Put (tup=ram). FOI after rubbing out Put.
    3d Noodles, very clever. COD.
    4d Sloppy J, DNK the sandwich… do I?
    11d Thrash Metal, cheated. As it is in Cheating Machine and I know nothing of music it must have come up before. Saw the metal/mettle bit but was a bit foxed by whale.
    16d Screwball. I thought “balls=blast” was a bit rude for the Times, and I was right, it is.
    26d Tar 2OI.

  23. 1:08 – difficult but worthwhile. No quibbles with any of the vocabulary or the cluing – including FEZ, which I thought neatly incorporated a pertinent, if somewhat questionable, cryptic definition into the wordplay. First-rate cluing throughout.

  24. 39.00
    Though it wasn’t quite a pangram (no V), the suspicion that it might be led me to the X in OX(H)IDE.
    The wordplay for SCREWBALL was, well, absurd.
    Surprisingly, only one actual BIFD, my LOI LEK.
    COD JUST ABOUT.

  25. 42:22
    Although I think this is very difficult, I did really enjoy it. There are a few NHOs in the wordplay but fewer, or none, in the answers. I find that much the better way round. I think the only NHO answer is LEK, though it makes sense, and once you see how the clue works it is the only option.

    So the difficulty derived primarily from guile not knowledge, and that’s the way I like it.

    COD to FEZ.

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